DAN C4-SFX

[Teduh]

Thank you for the high activity on the survey. Nearly 1000 votes in total.

Would you buy the C4-SFX?
- 89% if i made changes or optimise the current version
- 11% not interested in

What changes to the case should be made?
- 40% made it 15mm more wide
- 30% keep it as it is with optimizations
- 25% make 12l pure sandwich
- 5% other

Would you buy the case without I/O like USB-A or USB-C?
- 56% i do not need USB
- 44% i need USB

So what will i do?
- i will make the case 15mm more wide
# gpu support up to 3slot 320mm length, 140mm height
# air cooling up to 145mm
# 280 aio support also with 45mm thick radiator

- i will make sandwich layout optional (you have to buy your own flex riser)
- gpu on top will be the new default layout
- the bottom is covered
- increase the size of the vent area on the side panels so the 280 rad will get more air
- remove the bar in the middle of the rad bracket for better airflow

- i will add one single USB-C next to the power button
- i think about removing the logo

will the 15mm more width allow for the EVGA 3080 FTW3 to fit in the classic layout now? if so i'll 100% be waiting for this case.

 

[MarcParis]

will the 15mm more width allow for the EVGA 3080 FTW3 to fit in the classic layout now? if so i'll 100% be waiting for this case.

Not sure as there is no offset for power connector, to be confirmed

 

[dondan]

@Teduh: The new size will support cards up to an height of 147mm including the power and cable bend.
The powerconnector including cable requires 16-18mm. So the maximum height for the the card power socket is 131mm.

For cards like the Asus Strix the power connector is lower than the top of the card so it will fit, another example is the RTX 3090 FE where the connector is smaller an angled so 10mm is enough and the card will also fit.

Asus RTX 30x0 Strix

RTX 3090 FE

For the FTW3 the connector is on line with the 137mm height. So your card will not fit out of the box. You need low profile 180° angled power pcbs like this to fit the FTW:

 

[Teduh]

@Teduh: The new size will support cards up to an height of 147mm including the power and cable bend.
The powerconnector including cable requires 16-18mm. So the maximum height for the the card power socket is 131mm.
For cards like the Asus Strix the power connector is lower than the top of the card so it will fit, another example is the RTX 3090 FE where the connector is smaller an angled so 10mm is enough and the card will also fit.

For the FTW3 the connector is on line with the 137mm height. So your card will not fit out of the box. You need low profile 180° angled power pcbs like this to fit the FTW:

Awesome, thanks for the info. With the adapter, it should be well within 147 then right? There won't be potential bulging like with the M1? Hypothetically.

 

[dondan]

This case has 5mm more in width than the M1 so yes it will not bulging

 

[Sldr]

Can't wait for this case! It was very clear that SFF cases are not there yet for a RTX3090 Founders Edition, so I moved that build to ATX. The 3090, especially the Founders Edition is just one massive heatsink, and it relies on case airflow to cool itself. The fans do their work to keep the die cool, but by doing so heat up everything in close range of it. With sandwich SFF cases, that's the underside of the mITX board, which houses the CPU, PCH, SSD, VRM, ... all in a couple centimeters squared.

So, this ATX build is only temporary, because the 3090 is too good to leave unused until a cool case like the C4-SFX arrives. Currently using a H510 loaded to the brim with Noctua 3000RPM industrial fans, it's loud, it's obnoxious, it's present, it's ... ATX.

So, I can't wait for this 12th gen to arrive, and then build the 3090 in this C4-SFX! Yeah!

 

[aethyc]

Hello, will there be dust filters included similar to the M1 (same question about the A4-H20, I like both ) ?

 

[riba2233]

Can't wait for this case! It was very clear that SFF cases are not there yet for a RTX3090 Founders Edition

Some are

 

[remotebert]

So, even with the 15mm width increase, the Noctua NH-U9S is still the recommended cpu air cooler?

 

[remotebert]

I am currently on the process of ordering a B550 with lower Am4 socket position to also test the C14S.

@dondan have you had a chance to test out the C14S in the C4?

 

[dondan]

@remotebert

I think C14S with dual 140mm will be better.

 

[lyniaaf]

What's your thoughts on Dark Rock TF 2?

 

[lucinski]

What's your thoughts on Dark Rock TF 2?

I believe he is referring to the Shadow Rock TF 2, in which case I am also very interested in the topic. The dilemma being whether the TF2 interferes with the PSU or not. Thanks!

And btw, kudos for deciding to go for the extra 15mm width. Consider me a buyer moving from an M1.

 

[rfarmer]

I believe he is referring to the Shadow Rock TF 2, in which case I am also very interested in the topic. The dilemma being whether the TF2 interferes with the PSU or not. Thanks!

And btw, kudos for deciding to go for the extra 15mm width. Consider me a buyer moving from an M1.

Be Quiet recently announced the upcoming Dark Rock TF 2.

 

[lucinski]

Maybe a missed it, but will there be dust filters for this future super case? Preferably like the ones in the Ncase M1, which are super effective and magnetic.

 

[Aleksander]

When can we expect pictures/renders of the new wider version?

 

[MiniMe]

Renders on the site & OT video shows no USB. You mentioned the addition of a USB-C despite the majority preferring it without. Any chance of a situation like the NCase where you can have with or without? The USB ports is all that is holding back from buying this over the M1.

 

[biopunk]

Renders on the site & OT video shows no USB. You mentioned the addition of a USB-C despite the majority preferring it without. Any chance of a situation like the NCase where you can have with or without? The USB ports is all that is holding back from buying this over the M1.

Get your facts straight, "I don't need USB" doesn't imply "I prefer without USB ports". 44% who need USB ports + those who don't care would constitute the majority.

 

[MiniMe]

Why such hostility kiddo? Unless you're Dan, I'd just refrain from replying from now on

 

[proficide]

Would this Arctic 280mm AIO fit? I'm building an absolute powerhouse, and this is the best AIO currently on the market.