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@Gotsche:
C4-SFX classical Design 10.4L vs Ghost with large top head = 11L
C4-SFX indirect cooling Design 11.4L vs Ghost with two large top heads = 13,6L
C4-SFX classical Design 10.4L vs Ghost with large top head = 11L
C4-SFX indirect cooling Design 11.4L vs Ghost with two large top heads = 13,6L
to be fair, we have to account for just 2 fans and loss in performance for indirect flow!
So a more appropriate comparison between your idea and Louqe with top hats would be:
-case + large (30mm radiator) + medium (25mm radiator) top hats = 12.216l
But, you're still winning in design, price and total volume... And to be honest THOSE are my reasons for being more interested in your case... Not interested in GPU cooling because I find a two rad configurations useful for SLI/Crossfire in my opinion.... but a case developed around this idea and PCIe bifurcation would be awesome... I'm not a buyer for that, but would be awesome!
Performance BTW, are still to be judged!
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Yes, if you have a target to be the smallest one. Thats right.
I'm owning and using a A4 v2 from you. And it is very small and is looking great. The main problem for me is now: how to handle the heat.... the more powerfull massive multicore cpu's are going so be better and better in gaming too and there are gaming projects of using more and more cores. Then there will VR an additional heatproblem. Actually the 95W i7-8700K and a 1080ti, may be a 2080ti is at the upper limitations of the case. But in spring 2019 the Ryzen 3 will make a big step forward, I expect.
So I'm changing my mind in going to more better cooling solutions for a little more space. It's a compromise... to get the more powerfull pc as possible for about 1-2 litres more. The C4 case would be great - but the big question is: WHEN? I would it buy now or yesterday!
Do you have a plan, when the c4 project will goes into real/Kickstarter?
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I don't think so. I will provoke with the video that with other enclosures are much performance possible. But I'm looking to the C4 project and I don't have a fealing of a progress of the project...
Here is a preview on how the the case can look like with the indirect cooling layout. It is a early version because I need a feeling on how the dimension and proportion will look like:
still looks good IMO.
Do you plan on having the I/O at the back ? Maybe the inlet ports on each side could be less wide so fans won't be visible ?
I'm waiting for you poll now
I would pay twice the suggested price for the original C4 design (and I'm a poor student). I'm using the A4 v1, but with the 8700k I need some better temps for OC. The original, sub 10L C4 would be a dream come true. Wasn't the entire purpose of this case to be the smallest AIO compatible case out there?
@dondan it seems like most of the things you don't like are mostly I/O related.
I've seen the prototypes pictures and I think it still looks great even with the cutout for the I/O. Opinions on looks are quite subjective.dondan said:
If side I/O is causing all the troubles, just get rid of it. There's no need to create a whole different case because of Side I/O. You've tried, it didn't work, it's fine. Move the I/O on the top.dondan said:
Like the first point, looks are subjective. I do like it.dondan said:
You can easily fix this with 2x 120mm fan covers and some cable tie points or straps.dondan said:
C4 is different from the Ghost S1 or the Nuvolo:dondan said:
- Different interior layout
- Better design (imho)
- Does not need extra parts in order to support 240mm radiators
- Can fit 2x 120mm radiators
- Actually has front I/O (hopefully w/ type-C connector)
- Offers tempered glass panels right from the start
I prefer top I/O! However, I remember that there were a lot of people arguing in favor of keeping the side I/O. There's always a lot of resistance to making even small changes like this, so I can understand how @dondan might feel discouraged and want to explore bigger changes.
Here are some pictures so you can see how pluged in top i/o and side i/o will look like:
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I honestly don't care where the I/O goes, as long as i retain the option of flipping which side the glass panel is on. I've liked the asthetics of both the side and top i/o designs.
I currently use Josh's NFC S4M-C, with no I/O, just the power button. I/O is purely optional IMO.
I currently use Josh's NFC S4M-C, with no I/O, just the power button. I/O is purely optional IMO.
Cooling capability is directly related to radiator surface area. Why not simply allow for thicker (>30mm) radiator(s) on one side instead of a second 240mm unit on the opposite side of the case? Anyone wanting to cool both CPU and GPU on separate loops could, for instance, opt for two 45mm thick 120 rads.
Such an arrangement would still benefit from the efficiency of directly-mounted fans, and radiator volume would grow by only 50% vs. a full doubling in the twin-240 configuration.
Such an arrangement would still benefit from the efficiency of directly-mounted fans, and radiator volume would grow by only 50% vs. a full doubling in the twin-240 configuration.
Here is a preview on how the the case can look like with the indirect cooling layout. It is a early version because I need a feeling on how the dimension and proportion will look like:
So.. you are selling a Lian Li clone, then?
C'mon, don't tell me you like the design you posted.
Compared to this?
Really?
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The new design is not final. That's why there is no I/O, no screws holding the glass side panel, etc.
With that said, I'm not a huge fan of how the top I/O currently looks on the old design. Well, it's not bad, but I wish it was better integrated with the case. Is it possible to have a top panel with port holes instead of the cutout? Just wondering how that could look like.
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two fans in the front, especially blocked by that front is not going to be enough to cool a video card with blocked sides. The tiny gaps on the side of the case sucking air at 90 degree angle is most definitely not enough to cool a GPU. By doing this dual passive radiator, you are essentially going to alienate everyone who doesn't want to water cool their GPU. Maybe, in the effort to go for something unique, you lost vision with your original amazing idea which is a shame. I hope the poll results will sway you back to the original design.
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Totally read you’re reply and then the last line right before the chorus in TOXICITY from System of a Down started playing in my head.So.. you are selling a Lian Li clone, then?
C'mon, don't tell me you like the design you posted.
Compared to this?
Really?
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