He Dan Very love the design. What software is used to draw the case?
i mean, the case is reversable so you should be able to just take off the standard casefeet. might actually look half decent as a HTPC then!Grab some rubber feet and sure. Won't hurt anything. Might just look a little awkward.
My reasoning on it 'looking awkward' being on the side was personal preference on aspect ratios, which is why I said 'might be'. Comes down to personal preference.i mean, the case is reversable so you should be able to just take off the standard casefeet. might actually look half decent as a HTPC then!
Hey Dan,
Keep the card behind the Motherboard . even if it costs more for the cable ... we ned the clean look of both sides , one with the Motherboard and LED RAM , LED water cooler , and the other side for the GPU... and the water cooler below or above.
You are making a huge mistake putting the GPU above the Motherboard.
More over MSI already made your design ... it is not original one.
MSI nightblade MIB
https://www.msi.com/Desktop/Nightblade-MIB
same design , GPU above mobo . dont go this way ..
we need over mobo CLEAN and Visible. and easy to add components and access memory and M2 SSD any time. putting the GPU above the Mobo is not a cool idea at all.
your original Idea of putting the card behind the Mobo was the best . dont change that at all !
here is the case IMO , both sides Tempered Glass cover .
Side one shows GPU
side two Shows Motherboard and RAM and M2 SSD..
all visible , Mobo easy to access any time.
and the water cooler , below or Above the case ...
While you're getting the prototypes ready, we're keeping the faith
Not a helpful post really....constructive criticism is welcome, but this is plain critical.
Dan's been working on this design (publicly) for 6 months and you decide to chime in 24 pages into a fairly well developed build.
He has his reasons for not repeating a 'back to back' sandwich, and has done a lot of work to get the C4 to the near prototype stage, and this is so much better thought out than the Nightblade.
There are a good number of other 'back to back' sandwich designs to choose from these days if you don't like this one.
Dan, keep up the good work 'unser Freund'
While you're getting the prototypes ready, we're keeping the faith
This case is not only for AIO coolers. This is for FIXED Custom loop as well , and once you water cool the card you can never remove it without removing the whole thing. and if the card is ABOVE the motherboard ? then forget about reaching the motherboard !!! Forget about replacing an M2 SSD or putting more RAM or even add more SATA drives or change them or reach the cables with ease .
I mean 24 pages in and close to being prototype ready is kind of super duper late to be looking at landing substantial design changes in someone else's project. That being said though its not entirely w/out precedent.I hope I am not late here ..
Try to make the Motherboard accessible for upgrades . upgrading RAM , SSD , M2 , should be easy in such hard to put together machine.
and putting the Card behind the motherboard will make every thing easier to reach , upgrade and maintain. plus it will look better as well.
your original IDEA DAN was the card behind the motherboard. Stay with it. it is your trade mark and it is wonderful. the main advantage of it is not only smaller size , the main advantgage of it is the clean space OVER the motherboard.
if you want to add anything it is easy.. and reachable within seconds.
and more over ... look at that card .. if we WATER COOL the card .. it will not be upgradable at all ! you are stuck
imagine I use custom water cooling for the card ?
This case is not only for AIO coolers. This is for FIXED Custom loop as well , and once you water cool the card you can never remove it without removing the whole thing. and if the card is ABOVE the motherboard ? then forget about reaching the motherboard !!! Forget about replacing an M2 SSD or putting more RAM or even add more SATA drives or change them or reach the cables with ease .
I hope I am not late here ..
I will wait for him to reply.
and your reply is not friendly at all. and if yo dont like my ideas , dont call them "plain critical" . Actually they are more than helpful.
and you dont tell me to look elsewhere . I can look where ever I want to look at. Only Dan can tell me that. you dont own this project to reply in his place.
and last thing , I was talking with Dan , and I want his reply . not your Judgement. who are you to judge me? mind your own business.
lastly @Dan ...
Try to make the Motherboard accessible for upgrades . upgrading RAM , SSD , M2 , should be easy in such hard to put together machine.
and putting the Card behind the motherboard will make every thing easier to reach , upgrade and maintain. plus it will look better as well.
your original IDEA DAN was the card behind the motherboard. Stay with it. it is your trade mark and it is wonderful. the main advantage of it is not only smaller size , the main advantgage of it is the clean space OVER the motherboard.
if you want to add anything it is easy.. and reachable within seconds.
and more over ... look at that card .. if we WATER COOL the card .. it will not be upgradable at all ! you are stuck
imagine I use custom water cooling for the card ?
This case is not only for AIO coolers. This is for FIXED Custom loop as well , and once you water cool the card you can never remove it without removing the whole thing. and if the card is ABOVE the motherboard ? then forget about reaching the motherboard !!! Forget about replacing an M2 SSD or putting more RAM or even add more SATA drives or change them or reach the cables with ease .
I hope I am not late here ..
Haven't a couple of small resoviors been mentioned already? Pretty small ones, but it's at least something.
I think a 240*30mm radiator is too small to properly cool high end CPU and GPU anyway.
Try to make the Motherboard accessible for upgrades . upgrading RAM , SSD , M2 , should be easy in such hard to put together machine.
and putting the Card behind the motherboard will make every thing easier to reach , upgrade and maintain. plus it will look better as well.
your original IDEA DAN was the card behind the motherboard. Stay with it. it is your trade mark and it is wonderful.
This case is not only for AIO coolers. This is for FIXED Custom loop as well , and once you water cool the card you can never remove it without removing the whole thing.
I hope I am not late here ..
Currently Lian Li is crafting the prototype. For the current one you are too late. But if you have an idea that change my mind I will add that feature.
Thank you for your input
Daniel
This is good news! Thank you for keeping us up to date, I am still replenishing my wallet ready for when it is on the market
I know the Kickstarter is planned for may/June (can't remember which) and I believe once that's a go it's about 6 months till cases are made and shipped. At least that's what I believe the time line was for Dan's first case. Could be faster this time around.I second that. I'm about to pull the trigger on a Shift X for a build since I've been sitting on a new build for weeks now waiting for someone to jump from prototyping to production. I just hope it doesn't break my budget. This case is on daily watch for production green light! Go Dan go!!!
240*30mm is more than enough to properly cool a 8700k + 1080Haven't a couple of small resoviors been mentioned already? Pretty small ones, but it's at least something.
I think a 240*30mm radiator is too small to properly cool high end CPU and GPU anyway.
I know the Kickstarter is planned for may/June (can't remember which) and I believe once that's a go it's about 6 months till cases are made and shipped. At least that's what I believe the time line was for Dan's first case. Could be faster this time around.