DAN A4-SFX v4.1
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It will be available together with v4 release.
Here are my current changes for v4.
Here are my current changes for v4.
- New riser with 185mm short cable (like this https://www.sfflab.com/collections/parts/products/pcie-extender-adt) will drop retail price $10-$25
- Adding 92mm fan mountpoint + ventholes under the motherboard
- Lifting the PSU 5mm up to have more space for 92mm AIO
- removing 120mm AIO bracket from included to optional (orderable over SFFLabs parts section)
- USB 3.1 gen2 Typ-C at the front
- adding mointpoints over the motherboard for 120mm AIO bracket to be able to mount a 120mm fan above motherboard
- making the PWSW cable longer for better access on cheap MSI AM4 boards
- changing HDD bracket to support for 15mm thick drives
Just to confirm, with the v4 out of the box I can have 2x92mm fans, and if I buy the 120mm AIO bracket, I can populate a 120mm fan there as a 3rd fan? Do you have a drawing of how that would look that you could share please? Thanks!
On v4 you can install 2x 92x92x15 (Noctua A9x14) at the bottom. One under the PSU the other under the motherboard. Furthermore you can mount the 120mm AIO bracket also above the motherboard. This allows you ro install a heatsink without a fan and add a 120mm fan above it on the bracket.
Maybe, if the PCIe riser will be shorter, it will be great to have, don't know how, a top 92mm fan to pull air outside! There is space, is missing a smart way to attach it...
AH! I was checking yesterday... actually, you can try to integrate under the GPU as well the HDplex power Brick 400W. I guess now it's doesn't fit for few mm because of the PCIe riser depth.
But Imagine, 120mm AIO, HDplex DC and Power brick everything inside... Should be amazing!!
Currently (v3) we have 12,9mm below and 12,9mm above the board if you screw the board 100% centered.
So my plan is for v4 to lift up the board 2mm. Then we will have 14,9mm under the board and 10,9mm above the board. So you see above the board there is not enough space for an 92mm fan. Increasing the case isn't a option to be compatible with all parts from older revisions. So you have to decide 92mm mountpoint above or below the board.
BTW I love your QUADRO M5000
So my plan is for v4 to lift up the board 2mm. Then we will have 14,9mm under the board and 10,9mm above the board. So you see above the board there is not enough space for an 92mm fan. Increasing the case isn't a option to be compatible with all parts from older revisions. So you have to decide 92mm mountpoint above or below the board.
BTW I love your QUADRO M5000
So, I guess below is better to push air in for the most of the people. But it is also true that in these type of case, the exhaust is problem, and often with a proper exhaust fan the temp degrees can go down also of 8 degrees C!!
BTW, one thing for the bottom fan, Yesterday I had 2 issue:
I don't know where do you want to put exactly the mounting point for the bottom fan, BUT
The PSU cable connector is a bit too long and goes against the FAN, so take care of that,
The Z390i, because of the I/O shroud, has the EPS CPU connector more centered, going against the fan.
Of course if you rise up 2mm everything should be ok, was just to share some thought had yesterday late night.
AH! About increasing the size, I agree about the height for compatibility, but if you can just consider expanding GPU side 5mm (I guess) for the HD plex bricks! I think all the accessories stay the same! But I haven't measure perfectly...
PS: is a P5000, and thank you!!. With all this hype for the RTX, I bought it new for half of the price.
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Maybe put a better power button? I have a v2 and this is one of the bad aspects of the case, the button doesn't feel nice. It's wobbly in particular.
Or maybe that was improved in the v3 already?
Hello Daniel,
Your A4-SFX v3 case is awesome
When can we expect the v4?
Will Window Kit 4 be compatible with A4-SFX v3? Or if not, could I ask someone to 3d print such a window?
Your A4-SFX v3 case is awesome
When can we expect the v4?
Will Window Kit 4 be compatible with A4-SFX v3? Or if not, could I ask someone to 3d print such a window?
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Already improved in v3
Will there be mounting options for the HDPLEX 400W AC-DC?
I am very excited for all of the new options!
Hey Dondan, I got a V3, and I was curious if the new riser cable is compatible with the V3? or is this only for the A4 V4? imo the 300mm riser cable is a bit long. and blocks a bit of the airflow in my case.
According to the pictures, the riser cable doesn't go underneath the motherboard anymore, but it goes over the GPU side, right?
and what about the PSU bracket? so we can have a bit more room for a 92mm aio? can we order that one for the V3 as well?
And I think there is a small error in the SFF post, it says the cable has been shortened to 185mm, however in the specifications it says 300mm length wise.
According to the pictures, the riser cable doesn't go underneath the motherboard anymore, but it goes over the GPU side, right?
and what about the PSU bracket? so we can have a bit more room for a 92mm aio? can we order that one for the V3 as well?
And I think there is a small error in the SFF post, it says the cable has been shortened to 185mm, however in the specifications it says 300mm length wise.
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I just built my v3 build and I think the fan under the motherboard is a great idea. I've seen some motherboard components reach high temps with my AiO and it was no airflow to change that. Also, if there were optional ducts for the CPU cooler or GPU that allowed the fans on them to focus on bringing in outside cool air, that would be cool. I saw a guy on reddit use makeshift ducts and it reduced his GPU temps by 10c and CPU temps by 8c. With heat being the biggest downfall of the case, that would make a huge difference. Especially with the Ghost S1 offer those multiple top hats which allow 2x top fans for exhaust or a 240mm AiO.
Aside from that, great job with the case man! I don't see myself ever going back to a regular sized case after using this. It's just too convenient to have a full gaming PC in such a small form factor.
I just built my v3 build and I think the fan under the motherboard is a great idea. I've seen some motherboard components reach high temps with my AiO and it was no airflow to change that. Also, if there were optional ducts for the CPU cooler or GPU that allowed the fans on them to focus on bringing in outside cool air, that would be cool. I saw a guy on reddit use makeshift ducts and it reduced his GPU temps by 10c and CPU temps by 8c. With heat being the biggest downfall of the case, that would make a huge difference. Especially with the Ghost S1 offer those multiple top hats which allow 2x top fans for exhaust or a 240mm AiO.
Aside from that, great job with the case man! I don't see myself ever going back to a regular sized case after using this. It's just too convenient to have a full gaming PC in such a small form factor.
My only suggestion beyond the new changes would be to extend the side panel ventilation on the GPU side for longer triple fan cards.
It might not make any difference in practice, but it seems to me that the un-vented part of the panel partially covers the first fan on my Gigabyte Windforce card.
All the other stated changes seem to be great additions and I’ll likely upgrade from my V2 for them.
Edit: Also I think it’s definitely best to have the 92mm fan mount under the motherboard rather than above.
The main area on the motherboard that requires airflow is the VRMs, and they’re pretty much always at the bottom end of the motherboard.
On top of that, I’ve noticed that on the GPU side, right where that fan would go is a bit of a hot spot. Having a fan there to exhaust that area of the case will surely alleviate that.
It might not make any difference in practice, but it seems to me that the un-vented part of the panel partially covers the first fan on my Gigabyte Windforce card.
All the other stated changes seem to be great additions and I’ll likely upgrade from my V2 for them.
Edit: Also I think it’s definitely best to have the 92mm fan mount under the motherboard rather than above.
The main area on the motherboard that requires airflow is the VRMs, and they’re pretty much always at the bottom end of the motherboard.
On top of that, I’ve noticed that on the GPU side, right where that fan would go is a bit of a hot spot. Having a fan there to exhaust that area of the case will surely alleviate that.
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Have ordered a V3 case and all the components that will be going into it (doing a Ryzen 1700+1080TIFE build). First SFF attempt here, should be interesting.
Dondan, will the 3.1 IO module be compatible with V3?
Dondan, will the 3.1 IO module be compatible with V3?
Inversion (upside down internals) support? This would be welcomed by many AIO users. Although maybe too much re-tooling...
