I would never have thought that Alphacool radiotor would fit there. That's crazy!
DAN A4-SFX v4.1
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I just build my Dan last weekend and was shocked about the temperatures in Full Load using the Ryzen 3700X.
My Specs:
Ryzen 3700x
Aorus Pro WiFI X570 with newest Bios (11)
Noctua NH L9i Chromax with the Montage Kit for AM4 (Well I just saw today the post of DAN that because of that I am loosing 4-7 °C -_-)
3D printed Fan Duct
1x Noctua nf-a9x14 chromax at the SSD Cage Position exhaust
Zotac 2070 Super MINI
I am using the manual temp graph in the UEFI of DAN, meaning:
0-60°C 40%
60-70°C 60%
70-80°C 75%
80°C + 100%
In Full Load the CPU temp was around 80 °C and went up to 95°C . In Idle I also had sometimes 60-75 °C. I understood that I am not alone with the issue and that this is normal using the 3700x whith the Noctua L9 in a Dan Case even though using a Fan Duct?
What I did yesterday was disabling the CPB (Core Performance Boost) so I never run in turbo mode above the 3.6ghz. Well after that the temps are fine.
42-44°C in idle and 65-71°C max in Full Load (Cinebench).
Right now I am just unsure if everything is normal / fine and deactivating the CPB was the right approach. Perhaps undervolting the CPU or setting the TDP manually is better?
Thanks a lot.
My Specs:
Ryzen 3700x
Aorus Pro WiFI X570 with newest Bios (11)
Noctua NH L9i Chromax with the Montage Kit for AM4 (Well I just saw today the post of DAN that because of that I am loosing 4-7 °C -_-)
3D printed Fan Duct
1x Noctua nf-a9x14 chromax at the SSD Cage Position exhaust
Zotac 2070 Super MINI
I am using the manual temp graph in the UEFI of DAN, meaning:
0-60°C 40%
60-70°C 60%
70-80°C 75%
80°C + 100%
In Full Load the CPU temp was around 80 °C and went up to 95°C . In Idle I also had sometimes 60-75 °C. I understood that I am not alone with the issue and that this is normal using the 3700x whith the Noctua L9 in a Dan Case even though using a Fan Duct?
What I did yesterday was disabling the CPB (Core Performance Boost) so I never run in turbo mode above the 3.6ghz. Well after that the temps are fine.
42-44°C in idle and 65-71°C max in Full Load (Cinebench).
Right now I am just unsure if everything is normal / fine and deactivating the CPB was the right approach. Perhaps undervolting the CPU or setting the TDP manually is better?
Thanks a lot.
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How much thermal paste did you put, ryzens and especially 3xxx series require more paste than usual because of the die size and layout.
Yeah I thought about the thermal paste also but would be surprised if it's because of that.
I am using the Noctua Thermal Paste and used a drop of thermal paste. Difficult to explain how much but it wasn't a small drop. I also did not use too much paste and covered everthing. Just a good drop in the middle which I always used until now but for Intel CPUs. I saw this video (LINK) and well my drop is a little bit bigger. Since the vid is really old perhaps it's really too small.
Thanks a lot for the detailed and fast answer. Never thought about how high the watts can go and how difficult it could be to keep the CPU cool. With CPB deactivated the temps seem fine for me. It's sad because of the performance loss, but well I don't need it that much.
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The amount in the video is too low in my opinion, I would use at least double that. But the method is fine, big drop in the middle and heatsink spreads it on its own.
Is it worth to go for I7 9700 instead I5 9600 considering I will use 95W cpu thermal limit (long duration)? Use-case: video editing (AVX), no games....
If I use cpu in unrestricted thermal mode, 9700 is clear winer, if they are both restricted, i assume 9700 will have lower max turbo but 2 extra core and less difference in results, any thoughts?
If I use cpu in unrestricted thermal mode, 9700 is clear winer, if they are both restricted, i assume 9700 will have lower max turbo but 2 extra core and less difference in results, any thoughts?
I got Black Ridge in bundle with case and now im thinking about Corsair H55, also open to any other option
With 170mm ITX gpu (RX570) im flexible for best cooling solution. I also have SFX PSU.
Im in favour of 120mm AIO, easier to install, with some good airflow planning i think i could get good results, what are your thoughts?
120mm AIO idea
AIO mount on GPU side, fan set for intake with sealed edges to prevent air recirculation
40mm x1/x2 bellow PSU or 40mm on side next to PSU as exhaust to pull hot air out
Motherboard 92 fan intake to cool vrm's
GPU with 3D printed shroud + 92mm Noctua exhaust to take hot air outside of the case (without this GPU would heat up AIO radiator)
Custom cables
i was just wondering if anyone knows where i could get hold of the old usb c front panel connector that goes to the usb 3.0 header? i know that there are work around's but i really don't like the idea of having to use multiple adaptors (expensive and more points of failure) to get this to work on all ryzren mini itx boards. I've tried to find a replacement cable but can't seem to find the right one which is annoying as i know someone must make them. @dondan
What a genius idea, since i have custom cables on it might not be a workable solution for me, but sure i’ll try that when Gigabyte RA my mobo back
Get the Gigabyte one and remove the fan part above the M.2 port. The 120mm fan under the black ridge will cool this area.
Just finished my build, first time working on anything remotely this small.
The case seems pretty great. Didn't have any big unexpected issues building in it, having to bend the riser cable felt all kinds of wrong but doesn't seem to have broken so whatever
Only had one case fan to put in for now so have to open it up another time to add a second one. Think I might try the PSU the other way around then also, cable management seemed challenging with the PSU positioned the recommended way.
I got the Thermalright AXP-90 Copper and wouldn't recommend it for this case. It fits in but gets noisy with the sidepanel on as it's basically touching it. I knew this could likely be this way so almost expected it. Will probably change to a NH L9a.
The case seems pretty great. Didn't have any big unexpected issues building in it, having to bend the riser cable felt all kinds of wrong but doesn't seem to have broken so whatever
Only had one case fan to put in for now so have to open it up another time to add a second one. Think I might try the PSU the other way around then also, cable management seemed challenging with the PSU positioned the recommended way.I got the Thermalright AXP-90 Copper and wouldn't recommend it for this case. It fits in but gets noisy with the sidepanel on as it's basically touching it. I knew this could likely be this way so almost expected it. Will probably change to a NH L9a.
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i returned mine today, it wont fit, plus backplate gets really hot, especially if you have blackridge as pull, not even 92mm fan under mbo help.
one of the solutions would be thermal pads, i saw few posts with decent temp drop, depend on your mbo, you have maybe 2-3mm space there
btw i move riser cable on gpu side
