There wasn’t much, if any evidence, so I went ahead and took a few hours and tried myself. My original setup was 2 hand intake which I changed around out to exhaust. It didn’t seem to matter much at first, but after I started warming up the PC. I notice the bottom was getting hot. My RGB stripe around the bottom start overheating and malfunctioning which never happened in the intake orientation. The CPU fan seems louder. Since the case is barely off the ground, it seems the hot air was being trapped, hardly any was being pushed out, and what got out, may have been suck back into the case. In the end, I spent a few more hours, taking everything out and going back to intake.
DAN A4-SFX v4.1
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I was thinking of making some bracket to install under the case, raising it with like 1.5mm, holding 2 to 3 92mm fans, either in pull or push formation (tbd).
I'll come back to it once I've had time to invest.
Does anyone have the exact dimensions or a CAD file of the 120mm aio bracket of the DAN case?
Was thinking of designing an accessory based on the bracket.
I'll come back to it once I've had time to invest.
Does anyone have the exact dimensions or a CAD file of the 120mm aio bracket of the DAN case?
Was thinking of designing an accessory based on the bracket.
You probably don't want a permanent bracket, as it defeats the purpose of having a small case.
I thought of trying a laptop cooler pad like this:
www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Aluminum-Adjustable-Temperature-CL-N002-PL12BL/dp/B00J0NZYOK
You could also get 2X fan rack frames from specialist stores, and use the case on top of the external fans. But the limited vent holes in Dan A4 will reduce the cooling a lot. With regular laptops coolers do close to nothing to internal temperature, for the same reason.
You can raise the case by putting spacers between the rubber feet and the case, or changing the feet to taller custom ones. The default ones are way too short and limit the bottom intake/exhaust a lot. You an also mod the case by increasing the ventilation, like using a Dremmel drill on the bottom.
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For 9001% improved underside airflow and cooling: mesh top desks.
Now that's a business idea.
Or better yet: mesh top gaming desks.
The same product, but gaming.
Now that's a business idea.
Or better yet: mesh top gaming desks.
The same product, but gaming.
Thanks for doing this!
My A4 is raised about a half-inch on NCase M1 feet, so I’ll give an unscientific try sometime this weekend. I’ll probably flip the front fan (TY-100) and see what that does, since I do observe the temperature creeps up about 10’c between 10 and 20 minutes of GTA V (i.e. _after_ the first 10 minutes, where I’d expect thermal soak), so I suspect hot air is being recycled at some point.
I’m also thinking about 3D printing an alternative motherboard tray that has enough room for the TY-100 since that is vastly superior to most/all thin 92mms when it comes to airflow. Basically it would only utilize the outermost mounting screws from the bottom for a larger gap there, but I have to do some measurements and other groundwork (haven’t 3D-printed before).
Don’t forget the RGB.For 9001% improved underside airflow and cooling: mesh top desks.
Now that's a business idea.
Or better yet: mesh top gaming desks.
The same product, but gaming.
Hey folks!
I pre-ordered a Dan Case A4 v4 last month, alongside with a Black Ridge from Overclockers UK.
However after seeing how the X570 boards have tall heatsinks and so on, seems like no board will fit the black ridge.
With that in mind, I think that the way to go is to get the Asetek 645LT. To have it shipped to US, where is the best place to order it from?
Sfflab seems like a good option, however they don't seems to include the Noctua fan, Thermal Paste and other accessories that are listed on Overclockers UK product page.
Also, I'd probably need a 92mm fan guard, right?
Thank you!
I pre-ordered a Dan Case A4 v4 last month, alongside with a Black Ridge from Overclockers UK.
However after seeing how the X570 boards have tall heatsinks and so on, seems like no board will fit the black ridge.
With that in mind, I think that the way to go is to get the Asetek 645LT. To have it shipped to US, where is the best place to order it from?
Sfflab seems like a good option, however they don't seems to include the Noctua fan, Thermal Paste and other accessories that are listed on Overclockers UK product page.
Also, I'd probably need a 92mm fan guard, right?
Thank you!
Well...
Today I decided to lift the case a little higher from the ground to allow my bottom mounted Noctua to draw some more air.
So I made these 3mm risers for the feet and looked for some 8mm M3 screws in my screw box.
This is the result:
Does it help ? No idea. Will I test and compare results? No.
It doesn't really impact the case design and can only improve airflow imho.
STL file available HERE
I can't speak for shipping in the US but I ordered the 645LT from Overclockers UK and it was quite nice that everything you need is already in the box (fan, correct screws, thermal paste, ...).
Also I didn't managed to get the fan working the the Corsair SF600 and stock cables so I bought a fan guard which now works quite well.
Thank you for the reply! I end up buying it on Overclockers UK. Even with shipping to US, it was cheaper than buying from SFFLab and buying the extra stuff.
I also got the fan guard and a SF750, the price was really good.
I will have to wait for pslate to get the unsleeved cables tho. I also need to decide which motherboard I'm going to use, probably the Aorus X570, however let's see how it compares to the Asus one.
I received my ADT-Link M.2 extension cable today and my first tests are quite promising.
With the EKWB M.2 heatsing mounted, moving the SSD (Samsung 970PRO 512GB) to the front on the motherboard gave me a idle temp drop of 25 ~ 30°c.
I still need to test under load but I first need to design a bracket to mount it in place.
I do like the activity led on the extender.
It is kind of a pain to install and you need to put alot of pressure on the extender cable to get it this way but as long as it hold, there is no issue to me
Also, after all ongoing discussions in this topic, I mounted the bottom fan as an exhaust. I'll see if that improves anything...
With the EKWB M.2 heatsing mounted, moving the SSD (Samsung 970PRO 512GB) to the front on the motherboard gave me a idle temp drop of 25 ~ 30°c.
I still need to test under load but I first need to design a bracket to mount it in place.
I do like the activity led on the extender.
It is kind of a pain to install and you need to put alot of pressure on the extender cable to get it this way but as long as it hold, there is no issue to me
Also, after all ongoing discussions in this topic, I mounted the bottom fan as an exhaust. I'll see if that improves anything...
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Hi Everyone. I am looking at getting the MSI B450I Gaming Plus as my motherboard as word is it has good VRMS
My worry is that as M.2 slot is behind the motherboard, on a sandwich layout like the Dan, it might be bad temperature wise
Is anyone here using the Dan and a motherboard with the M2 behind ? how are the temperatures ?
My worry is that as M.2 slot is behind the motherboard, on a sandwich layout like the Dan, it might be bad temperature wise
Is anyone here using the Dan and a motherboard with the M2 behind ? how are the temperatures ?
It's bad. Got an "imminent failure" error. Had to order a thin heatsink. But it's still not good.
Literally the post before yours has the best solution.
Did you have to twist the extension cable at all?
I received mine (R44SF v2.0, ordered from AliExpress) recently and noticed that in the configured implementation, the riser cable itself would run over the rear IO rather than the front of the motherboard (ASRock Z390 Phantom ITX).
I noticed the MSI Z270I seems to have the same rear M.2 positioning as the ASRock Z390 Phantom ITX so I'm curious how you got the riser cable to route over the front edge of the motherboard.
Yes, I did have to make a 180° turn on the back. Do notice I have the 30cm version so I left some part of the cable behind the mobo to make this turn as it would bend the PCB of the extender realy hard if I made a direct turn at the start of the cable.
Then I had to make another twist to get it facing in the same direction as the motherboard. I'll try to make some pics.
I am still waiting for my DAN case, but from what I've seen, the intake bottom fan should be probably better (let's say we speak about vertical CPU heatsink), leading to "open case" temps. The issue tho is not the recycled air. I believe this is a very low factor issue. The main problem I see here are the backs of the GPU and Motherboard facing each other and creating dead air space in between them, rising temperatures significantly. As I tested on my test build, Just GPU's back warms the space by 20+ degrees. Anything that will blow this hot air away can help significantly. Pulling this hot air out of the box is almost impossible in this setup.
I really need to know tho, when the AIO/120mm fan bracket is available ?
I really need to know tho, when the AIO/120mm fan bracket is available ?
Yes, people use this. I would think twice about this setup from the reasons I mentioned above. Even now I am thinking about some 40mm fans to cool the space above CPU (m2 slot for me) even more.
Not the best pictures but you whould get the idea about the M.2 extender cable.
This is a mockup of what I'm aiming for as a solution for my NVME:
Keeping it in place witht he PCI-E riser connector
Still in progress though, I print all my test prints in some shitty orange filament ?
This is a mockup of what I'm aiming for as a solution for my NVME:
Keeping it in place witht he PCI-E riser connector
Still in progress though, I print all my test prints in some shitty orange filament ?
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Not the best pictures but you whould get the idea about the M.2 extender cable.
This is a mockup of what I'm aiming for as a solution for my NVME:
Keeping it in place witht he PCI-E riser connector
Still in progress though, I print all my test prints in some shitty orange filament ?
In the picture of the AIO pump, what’s the fan in the top right cooler that looks like a M.2 cooling device?
Forgive me if it’s been mentioned previously.
Big problem with the botom fans
Used 2x black ridge fan cooler in exhaust mod (fresh air in the case) I've notice they made a rattle sound.
In intake mod it's OK, but in exhaust it's like the engine comes out a little of its axis so the blades touch the case.
I've put a washer to raise the fan a bit, it sounds OK but it means I'm at 16mm now. I wish I can hang the mobo correctly.
Used 2x black ridge fan cooler in exhaust mod (fresh air in the case) I've notice they made a rattle sound.
In intake mod it's OK, but in exhaust it's like the engine comes out a little of its axis so the blades touch the case.
I've put a washer to raise the fan a bit, it sounds OK but it means I'm at 16mm now. I wish I can hang the mobo correctly.
