Other What's on Taobao

Windfall · Nov 20, 2019

ignsvn said:
Correct me if I'm wrong; cloning such cases until it reaches the quality of original will be quite costly, such that the price of each will rise close to the original?

This is very true.

tinyitx said:
No need to hope at all. Right up on the top, the first 2 words (in green) of the title mean ''I will buy it for you'' (my paraphrase).
Actually, near the bottom of the page, it spells everything out so clearly.
They are just a reseller. They buy an item from an official channel and then sell it to you. The technical name is 'Delegated purchase' or simply an agent (like Superbuy).

Ah, thanks for clarifying!

ababa · Nov 21, 2019

prayogahs said:
Nice! Thanks for sharing! Seems you faired better in customizing through superbuy. Hopefully you can get your ideal case. I am still on the edge on whether to buy another case or just upgrade to a better low profile cooler, like the recent AXP90 Cu. My L9i couldn't keep my r3600 cool enough.

How goes your 3600 temps?
I am planning to build components including 3600
That's my dream SFF case, plenty of rooms for a wider and taller cpu cooler, unfortunately, seller seems to be away

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prayogahs · Nov 21, 2019

ababa said:
How goes your 3600 temps?
I am planning to build components including 3600
That's my dream SFF case, plenty of rooms for a wider and taller cpu cooler, unfortunately, seller seems to be away

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Quite warm with L9i. Idle temps ranges between 50-55C but easily spikes to 60-70C when just doing light tasks as that is how the Ryzen CPU works. It makes the fan ramping up and down which is a a bit annoying. While gaming it usually at 70-75C, Cinebench will raise it to a toasty 85C and Prime95 will make it hit temp limits at 95C and throttles. The ASUS bios is also annoying compared to my previous AsRock board as the critical temp is only at 75C and I cannot increase it in the BIOS manually so the fan will run close to 100% most of the time at that temp. Hence looking for better low profile coolers or changing to a bigger case to fit tower coolers.

ababa · Nov 21, 2019

I see, best chance for you its getting a case compatible with 240 AIO
sunmilo T03/T04 is one of them

prayogahs · Nov 21, 2019

ababa said:
I see, best chance for you its getting a case compatible with 240 AIO
sunmilo T03/T04 is one of them

Yeah, thats another option. Will look at those cases. Thanks.

raksan · Nov 21, 2019

prayogahs said:
Quite warm with L9i. Idle temps ranges between 50-55C but easily spikes to 60-70C when just doing light tasks as that is how the Ryzen CPU works. It makes the fan ramping up and down which is a a bit annoying. While gaming it usually at 70-75C, Cinebench will raise it to a toasty 85C and Prime95 will make it hit temp limits at 95C and throttles. The ASUS bios is also annoying compared to my previous AsRock board as the critical temp is only at 75C and I cannot increase it in the BIOS manually so the fan will run close to 100% most of the time at that temp. Hence looking for better low profile coolers or changing to a bigger case to fit tower coolers.

My 3600 also idle around 50-55C. I have used Jonsbo hp400, Jonsbo+Noctua fan, Cryorig c7 copper, C7Cu+120 mm noctua fan. The Cryorig C7 copper+120 mm fan is my best combo so far, and also under volt by 0.10v help cool the cpu a bit. I have Formula Loli 2s case (182 X 114 X 220 mm).

ababa · Nov 22, 2019

prayogahs said:
Yeah, thats another option. Will look at those cases. Thanks.

Metalfish S5 looks good as well, dunno about case quality overall
Maybe less ''premium'' than sunmilo but price is insane, 359 RMB and it has enough room for an 135 mm CPU Cooler^^

prayogahs · Nov 22, 2019

raksan said:
My 3600 also idle around 50-55C. I have used Jonsbo hp400, Jonsbo+Noctua fan, Cryorig c7 copper, C7U+120 mm noctua fan. The Cryorig C7 copper+120 mm fan is my best combo so far, and also under volt by 0.10v help cool the cpu a bit. I have Formula Loli 2s case (182 X 114 X 220 mm).

Nice, whats your temps? I bit the bullet and bought the new AXP90 Copper just to try.

ababa said:
Metalfish S5 looks good as well, dunno about case quality overall
Maybe less ''premium'' than sunmilo but price is insane, 359 RMB and it has enough room for an 135 mm CPU Cooler^^

Yeah I know that case. Quality should be meh. I have the Metalfish S3 and its so-so but thats a given at that price.

raksan · Nov 22, 2019

prayogahs said:
Nice, whats your temps? I bit the bullet and bought the new AXP90 Copper just to try.

The temp is 48-50 idle. And my ambient temperature is 27.

ababa · Nov 22, 2019

prayogahs said:
Nice, whats your temps? I bit the bullet and bought the new AXP90 Copper just to try.

Yeah I know that case. Quality should be meh. I have the Metalfish S3 and its so-so but thats a given at that price.

Do you have any dent, scratch from the case itself?
I got Jonsbo cases and every time, cases look perfect with no sign of any imperfection
However its a model within 50-80$ lol

prayogahs · Nov 22, 2019

ababa said:
Do you have any dent, scratch from the case itself?
I got Jonsbo cases and every time, cases look perfect with no sign of any imperfection
However its a model within 50-80$ lol

Visually its fine without any scratches or dents, but the panels needs a bit of pushing and aligning the screws to fit them in as its slightly misaligned. Still acceptable though considering the price.

Vonwilbur · Nov 22, 2019

If anyone is interested, I contacted the seller of the ZS-A4 through superbuy and he said he will offer color customization on the ZS-A4 V2, it will just take a little longer.

prayogahs · Nov 23, 2019

Hi guys, just want to share my own list. This is just for my own reference and I thought it might help others. Not all info are accurate, either due to subpar translation or not enough information like with swapping certain components or limitation if using a larger GPU or PSU. If in doubt, please do your own research or contact the seller as some specifications might be outdated.

EDIT: Added other cases

Poblopuablo · Nov 23, 2019

Does anyone know if the seven m1(12.8l) supports a 240mm rad on the side?

prayogahs · Nov 23, 2019

Poblopuablo said:
Does anyone know if the seven m1(12.8l) supports a 240mm rad on the side?

Doesnt seem to support it as it was not listed in the specification. The side panel may not have a mounting for it. You can try your luck by talking with the seller directly though.

Sam · Nov 23, 2019

prayogahs said:
Hi guys, just want to share I own list from what I found here. This is actually just for my own reference and I thought it might help people here. The cases listed here are all M1/classic layout without riser. Not all info are accurate due to subpar translation and please do your own research as its missing incompatibilities with swapping certain components or limitation if using a larger GPU or PSU so please take it only for reference. If in doubt, please contact the seller as some specifications might be outdated.

EDIT: Updated table to include various sandwich and flex psu cases as an overall picture. Sorry in advance for any mistakes/inaccuracies

Seller Case Style Case Length (mm) Case Width (mm) Case Height (mm) Volume (L) Footprint (cm2) Side Panel CPU Height (mm) AIO support GPU Length (mm) GPU Width (mm) GPU Height (mm) Motherboard PSU Storage Case Fan Price (CNY)
Captain S. Captain S. V1 Classic 342 149 252 12.84 509.58 Glass/Alu 126 N/A 330 115 50 ITX ATX 2.5x5 / (3.5x1+2.5x2) 80x2+12025x2 898.00
Captain S. Captain S. V2 Sandwich 318 140 251 11.17 445.20 Glass/Alu 62 240mm 307 133 45 ITX SFX/SFX-L 2.5x2 12025x3 899.00
Captain S. Captain S. V3 Classic 328 165 274 14.83 541.20 Glass/Alu 140 N/A ? 132 60 ITX / MATX SFX 3.5x1+2.5x2 9025x1 + (12015x1/14015x1) + 12025x2 969.00
Captain S. Captain S. V6 Sandwich 188 142 267 7.13 266.96 Glass/Alu 67 N/A 178 ? 45 ITX SFX/SFX-L 2.5x4 12015x1 799.00
Critical Critical cp-one Sandwich 333 120 200 7.99 399.60 Aluminium 48 N/A 320 146 40 ITX SFX 3.5x1+2.5x2 8015x2/9015x2 710.00
Critical Critical cp-three Classic 333 157 249 13.02 522.81 Aluminium 138 N/A 327 ? 59 ITX SFX ? ? 399.00
Critical Critical cp-two Sandwich 333 144 240 11.51 479.52 Acrylic/Alu 53 240mm 327 ? 59 ITX SFX 2.5x2 12015x1 + 12025x2 399.00
Deng Studio Deng F12 Classic 332 167 250 13.86 554.44 Acrylic/Glass 135 240mm 320 130 55 ITX SFX 2.5x4 / (3.5x1+2.5x2) 80x1 + 12015x3 1,259.00
Deng Studio Deng F15 Pro Classic 332 198 297 19.52 657.36 Glass 165 240mm 320 ? 60 ITX / MATX? SFX/ATX(140mm) (2.5x6/3.5x3) / (2.5x3/(3.5x1+2.5x2)) 120x1 + (120x2/140x2) 1,479.00
Deng Studio Deng M25 Classic 370 198 340 24.91 732.60 Glass 165 240mm+280mm ? ? 60 ITX / MATX SFX/ATX 3.5x2 + 2.5x2 9015x2 + 120x3 + (120x2/140x2) 1,759.00
Dream Case Dream D1F-I Classic 270 155 220 9.21 418.50 Steel/Acrylic 135 N/A 270 148 47 ITX SFX/SFX-L 2.5x2 80x1/90x1 218.00
Dream Case Dream D1F-M Classic 330 155 285 14.58 511.50 Steel/Acrylic 135 N/A 330 148 60 ITX / MATX(250x250) SFX/SFX-L 2.5x2 + 3.5x1 80x1/90x1 + 120x4 280.00
Dream Case Dream D1FX Sandwich 310 120 180 6.70 372.00 Steel/Acrylic 50 N/A 310 125 47 ITX SFX 2.5x1 N/A 310.00
Dream Case Dream D1U Sandwich 240 110 220 5.81 264.00 Steel/Acrylic 38 N/A 240 ? 47 ITX Flex 2.5x2 N/A 188.00
Dream Case Dream D1U-20 Sandwich 200 110 240 5.28 220.00 Steel/Acrylic 38 N/A 200 ? 47 ITX / DTX(190x170) Flex 2.5x2 8025x2 188.00
Dream Case Dream D1U-240 Sandwich 315 130 260 10.65 409.50 Steel/Acrylic 55 240mm 310 148 50 ITX / DTX(190x170) SFX 2.5x1 12025x2 350.00
Dream Case Dream D1U-27 Sandwich 270 130 240 8.42 351.00 Steel/Acrylic 47 N/A 270 ? 50 ITX / DTX(190x170) Flex 2.5x2 12025x2 208.00
Formula Case Formula Loli 1 Sandwich ? ? ? ? ? Acrylic/Alu 48 N/A ? ? 40 ITX Flex 2.5x3 9015x2 397.00
Formula Case Formula X1 Sandwich 310 134 182 7.56 415.40 Aluminium 65 240mm /w top hat 304 125 45 ITX SFX/SFX-L 2.5x6 12012x1 + 12025x1 + (12025x2 /w top hat) 1,388.00
Geeklab Nano3 Sandwich 186 104 235 4.55 193.44 Acrylic/Alu 42 N/A 180 ? 40 ITX Flex 2.5x2 (9mm) 8010x2 387.00
Geeklab Nano3c Sandwich 186 106 236 4.65 197.16 Wood 43.5 N/A 180 ? 40 ITX Flex 2.5x2 (9mm) 8010x2 109.00
Geeklab Nano3Plus Sandwich 191 113 243 5.24 215.83 Acrylic/Alu 49 N/A 185 ? 40 ITX Flex 2.5x2 (9mm+14mm) 8015x2/9015x2 427.00
Geeklab Nano3S Sandwich 176 100 220 3.87 176.00 Acrylic/Alu 40 N/A 175 ? 40 ITX Flex 2.5x2 (7mm) 4010x1 427.00
Geeklab Nano4 Pro Sandwich 204 114 236 5.49 232.56 Aluminium 50.5 N/A 198 ? 40 ITX Flex 2.5x3 8015x2/9015x2 598.00
LZmod LZ-A4 T31 Sandwich 316 127 213 8.55 401.32 Aluminium 50.62 N/A 310 138 50 ITX SFX/SFX-L 2.5x4 8025x2 718.00
Mechanic Master Mechanical Master C24 Classic 249 155 249 9.61 385.95 Glass/Alu 130 N/A 245 130 60 ITX / MATX(225x175) SFX 2.5x4 + (3.5x1/2.5x2) 8015x2 + 9025x1 + (8025x2/12025x1) 599.00
Mechanic Master Mechanical Master C26 Classic 315 155 265 12.94 488.25 Glass/Alu 130 240mm 310 118 60 ITX / MATX SFX/SFX-L 2.5x4 + (3.5x1/2.5x2) + (3.5x2+2.5x2) 90x3 + 12025x2 829.00
Metalfish Metalfish G5 Plus Sandwich 320 140 260 11.65 448.00 Acrylic/Alu 60 N/A 300 ? 40 ITX SFX/SFX-L 2.5x2 12025x2 399.00
Metalfish Metalfish S3 Sandwich 200 105 250 5.25 210.00 Alu/Acrylic/Glass 40 N/A 195 ? 40 ITX Flex 2.5x1 + (3.5x1/2.5x2) 8010x1 299.00
Metalfish Metalfish S3 Plus Sandwich 240 140 280 9.41 336.00 Glass/Alu 70 N/A 230 ? 40 ITX SFX/SFX-L 2.5x4 12025x1 379.00
Metalfish Metalfish S5 Classic 300 160 260 12.48 480.00 Glass 135 N/A 290 132 60 ITX / MATX(245x220) SFX/SFX-L 2.5x1 + 3.5x2 90x3 + 120x2 359.00
Seven.CME Seven FL-A4 Sandwich 315 140 210 9.26 441.00 Aluminium 50 N/A 308 140 54 ITX SFX/SFX-L 2.5x3 12015x2 588.00
Seven.CME Seven M1 (10.8L) Classic 317 155 220 10.81 491.35 Aluminium 125 N/A 308 112 40 ITX SFX/SFX-L (2.5x2+3.5x2) / 2.5(7mm)x8 / 2.5(14mm)x4 90x3 658.00
Seven.CME Seven M1 (12.8L) Classic 317 165 245 12.81 523.05 Aluminium 135 N/A 308 142 68 ITX SFX/SFX-L (2.5x2+3.5x2) / 2.5(7mm)x8 / 2.5(14mm)x4 90x3 + 12025x2 658.00
Seven.CME Seven SL-A4 Sandwich 315 140 250 11.03 441.00 Aluminium 50 240mm 308 140 54 ITX SFX/SFX-L 2.5x3 12025x2 628.00
SGPC SGPC K29 Console 190 40 400 3.04 76.00 Aluminium 30 N/A 180 ? 43 ITX / MATX(226x185) Flex 2.5x4 N/A 289.00
SGPC SGPC K39v2 Sandwich 180 100 220 3.96 180.00 Aluminium 47 N/A 180 ? 43 ITX Flex 2.5x2 N/A 179.00
SGPC SGPC K55 Sandwich 304 116 174 6.14 352.64 Acrylic/Alu 55 N/A 305 134 43 ITX SFX 2.5x2 N/A 269.00
SGPC SGPC K66 Classic 190 160 230 6.99 304.00 Glass 55 N/A 190 133 60 ITX / MATX(226x190) ATX 2.5x1 N/A 229.00
SGPC SGPC K77 Classic 270 150 210 8.51 405.00 Glass 135 N/A 270 138 50 ITX SFX 2.5x3 8025x2 299.00
SGPC SGPC K99v2 Sandwich 310 130 240 9.67 403.00 Glass/Acrylic/Alu 65 240mm 305 140 43 ITX / MATX(226x190) SFX 2.5x3 12025x2 359.00
SKTC SKTC Q1 Classic 277 190 254 13.37 526.30 Alu/Acrylic/Glass 160 120mm 260 148 40 ITX / MATX(226x175) SFX/ATX 2.5x2 + 3.5x1 120x1 239.00
SKTC SKTC Q2 Classic 300 193 285 16.50 579.00 Alu/Glass 160 120mm 270 ? 60 ITX / MATX(240x195) SFX/ATX (3.5x1+2.5x1) / 2.5x3 120x2 219.00
SKTC SKTC S02 Sandwich 320 142 285 12.95 454.40 Tempered Glass & Alu 55 240mm 305 ? 40 ITX SFX (3.5x1+2.5x1) / 2.5x2 12025x2 499.00
Small Case Bs2 (Air) Sandwich 320 138 210 9.27 441.60 Aluminium 62 N/A 298 125 42 ITX SFX 2.5x2 12015x2 1,339.00
Small Case Bs2 (Water) Sandwich 320 138 248 10.95 441.60 Glass/Alu 57 240mm 298 125 45 ITX SFX 2.5x2 12025x2 1,169.00
Small Case Smallest One Classic 280 149 212 8.84 417.20 Acrylic/Glass/Alu 125 N/A 268 112 40 ITX SFX/SFX-L 2.5x4 / (3.5x1+2.5x2) 80x1/60x2 1,138.00
Sunmilo Studio Sunmilo C01 Classic 280 185 235 12.17 518.00 Glass 160 120mm 277 ? 40 ITX SFX/SFX-L 2.5x2 120x1 899.00
Sunmilo Studio Sunmilo C01s Classic 280 160 235 10.53 448.00 Glass 135 N/A 277 ? 40 ITX SFX/SFX-L 2.5x1 80x1/90x1 899.00
Sunmilo Studio Sunmilo S01 Sandwich 196 130 272 6.93 254.80 Aluminium 56 N/A 190 ? 40 ITX SFX/SFX-L 2.5x3 12015x1 739.00
Sunmilo Studio Sunmilo T03 Sandwich 320 130 252 10.48 416.00 Glass/Alu & Glass 56 240mm 310 130 49 ITX SFX 2.5x2 12025x2 839.00
Ultra Civilz Ultra Civilz A4F Sandwich 308 139 215 9.20 428.12 Aluminium/Glass? 68 N/A 300 ? 45 ITX SFX 2.5x3 9015x2 + 12015x2 999.00
Ultra Civilz Ultra Civilz A4F-PY Sandwich 306 143 215 9.41 437.58 Aluminium/Glass? 76 N/A 300 ? 45 ITX SFX 3.5x1 + 2.5x3 9015x2 + 12015x1 869.00
Ultra Civilz Ultra Civilz A4F-XL Sandwich 308 139 240 10.27 428.12 Aluminium 68 N/A 300 158 45 ITX SFX/SFX-L 2.5x2 12025x4 999.00
Ultra Civilz Ultra Civilz A4s Sandwich 308 135 260 10.81 415.80 Tempered Glass 68 240mm 300 ? 45 ITX SFX 2.5x3 9015x2 + 12025x2 1,199.00
Ultra Civilz Ultra Civilz M1 Classic 318 225 160 11.45 715.50 Aluminium/Glass? 138 240mm 310 ? 58 ITX SFX 3.5x1 + 2.5x3 80x1/90x1 + 120x2 969.00
Warhead Design Warhead Dual Cool Sandwich 250 130 370 12.03 325.00 Aluminium 50 2x240mm 320 150 60 ITX SFX 2.5x2 12025x2 1,599.00
Warhead Design Warhead Micro Sandwich 315 129 230 9.35 406.35 Aluminium 55 240mm 300 ? 52 ITX SFX 2.5x2 12025x2 899.00
Warhead Design Warhead Nano Sandwich 235 129 220 6.67 303.15 Aluminium 55 120mm 230 ? 40 ITX Flex 2.5x4 12025x1 799.00
Warhead Design Warhead Papyrus Sandwich 277 130 195 7.02 360.10 Aluminium 110 120mm/240mm 195 ? ? ITX SFX 2.5x3 6025x2 + 12025x2 599.00
Warhead Design Warhead Sans L (A) Sandwich ? ? ? ? ? Aluminium 60 120mm/240mm 315 150 45 ITX SFX 3.5x1 + 2.5x2 12025x2 499.00
Warhead Design Warhead Sans L (B) Sandwich ? ? ? ? ? Aluminium 50 120mm/240mm 315 150 59 ITX SFX 3.5x1 + 2.5x2 12025x2 499.00
Warhead Design Warhead Toriel Classic 282 185 272 14.19 521.70 Steel 130 N/A 275 150 40 ITX / MATX ATX 3.5x1 + 2.5x2 8025x2 + 12025x4 499.00
天狼星机箱 Nova1024/T20 Sandwich 308 136 204 8.55 418.88 Acrylic/Glass/Alu 55 N/A 305 130 50 ITX SFX 2.5x3 9015x3 382.00
天狼星机箱 RDX1024/T30 Sandwich 319 140 250 11.17 446.60 Acrylic/Glass 59 240mm 312 165 49 ITX SFX/SFX-L 2.5x1 12025x2 570.00
天狼星机箱 T10 Sandwich 226 112.5 252.8 6.43 254.25 Aluminium 43 N/A 220 ? 40 ITX Flex 2.5x1 9015x2 372.00
天狼星机箱 T50 Sandwich 324 148 221 10.60 479.52 Acrylic/Glass 61 N/A 303 129 55 ITX SFX/SFX-L 2.5x3 9015x3 307.00
小白DIY电脑机箱 DIY A4 Sandwich 306 126 220 8.48 385.56 Aluminium 52 N/A 290 120 42 ITX SFX/SFX-L 2.5x2 9015x2/12015x1 829.00
机械库 JXK-F1 Classic 320 157 237 11.91 502.40 Alu/Acrylic 136 N/A 315 135 60 ITX SFX 3.5x1 + 2.5x2 60x2 399.00
机械库 JXK-J1 (Motif clone) Open ? ? ? ? ? Open Open 120mm Open Open 40 ITX SFX/ATX N/A N/A 699.00
深蓝SL SL-A4+ Sandwich 336 131 212 9.33 440.16 Glass? 49 120mm 320 ? 40 ITX SFX 2.5x4 40x3, 60x2, 80x2, 120x1 740.00
深蓝SL SL-M1 Classic 335 168 238 13.39 562.80 Acrylic 140 240mm 320 130 60 ITX / MATX(225x175) SFX/SFX-L 2.5x2 + (3.5x1/2.5x1) 80x2 + 120x1 799.00
祖传黑店 ZS-A4Sv2 Sandwich 274 115 194 6.11 315.10 Aluminium 49 N/A 269 140 42.5 ITX Flex 2.5x4 8010x2? 760.00
祖传黑店 ZS-A4v2 Sandwich 316 129 185 7.54 407.64 Aluminium 48/60 N/A 311 141 42.5/54.5 ITX SFX/SFX-L 2.5x2 N/A 850.00
老K机箱定制 Cube X1 Sandwich 310 138 240 10.27 427.80 Alu/Acrylic 55 240mm 300 135 54.5 ITX SFX 2.5x3 12025x3 799.00
老K机箱定制 Cube X1m Sandwich 310 138 200 8.56 427.80 Alu/Acrylic 65 N/A 300 135 44.5 ITX SFX 2.5x3 12015x2 + 12025x1 769.00
老K机箱定制 K01 Sandwich 310 113 185 6.48 350.30 Glass & Alu/Alu 49 N/A 302 135 40 ITX SFX 2.5x2 N/A 778.00
老K机箱定制 K02 Sandwich 315 130 240 9.83 409.50 Glass 55 240mm 306 140 54 ITX SFX 2.5x3 12025x2 689.00
老K机箱定制 K03 Classic 282 147 228 9.45 414.54 Glass 125 N/A 275 112 46 ITX SFX/SFX-L 2.5x3 N/A 789.00
老K机箱定制 Nano S1 Sandwich 182 101 236 4.34 183.82 Aluminium 39 N/A 175 ? 40 ITX Flex 2.5x2 8010x2 588.00
魔神科技电脑机箱城 Ghost S1 (clone) Sandwich 310 137 186 7.90 424.70 Aluminium 63 240mm /w top hat 304 125 45 ITX SFX/SFX-L 2.5x3 12025x2 /w top hat 598.00
魔神科技电脑机箱城 HGL A4 Sandwich 320 140 260 11.65 448.00 Tempered Glass & Alu 55 240mm 310 135 48 ITX SFX 2.5x2 120x2 698.00
魔神科技电脑机箱城 Mini Sandwich 200 120 250 6.00 240.00 Aluminium 45 N/A 185 145 45 ITX Flex 2.5x2 8015x2/9015x2 299.00
魔神科技电脑机箱城 MS4 Sandwich 260 160 330 13.73 416.00 Aluminium 115 N/A 250 140 50 ITX / MATX(245x245) SFX 2.5x3 8015x2 + 12025x1 388.00

That's an excellent list you put together!

ababa · Nov 24, 2019

https://item.taobao.com/item.htmspm=2013.1.20141001.2.58353068ZcGul1&id=578233302771&scm=1007.12144.95220.42296_0_0&pvid=b42eee27-d043-493e-8e5e-d289248a0eb4&utparam=%7B%22x_hestia_source%22%3A%2242296%22%2C%22x_object_type%22%3A%22item%22%2C%22x_mt%22%3A0%2C%22x_src%22%3A%2242296%22%2C%22x_pos%22%3A2%2C%22x_pvid%22%3A%22b42eee27-d043-493e-8e5e-d289248a0eb4%22%2C%22x_object_id%22%3A578233302771%7D

This case seems to be excellent at first impression but according Reddit feeback

There are some visible dents and the panels don't line up perfectly

Dunno about other model cases/sellers

N4nier · Nov 25, 2019

I have a question that may seem dumb, but I'm just trying to figure it out. If I didn't get the PCI-e riser cable that was recommended for the cases I bought off tabao, are they all the same? If I know the lenght can I just buy one off amazon?

Thanks guys.

DKsystem · Nov 25, 2019

N4nier said:
I have a question that may seem dumb, but I'm just trying to figure it out. If I didn't get the PCI-e riser cable that was recommended for the cases I bought off tabao, are they all the same? If I know the lenght can I just buy one off amazon?

Thanks guys.

Technically yes, it will work. But those screw holes fixing itself to the chassis have no standards, so you might want to check them before you buy one.

prayogahs · Nov 25, 2019

prayogahs said:
Just replaced my L9i to the AXP90 Cu to cool my R5 3600 in the DSE Breathe and dropped my idle and load temps around 5-10C. Originally my idle temps was at 50-55C and now its closer to 40-50C. Load temps under Cinebench was 85-90C but now it was 80-85C peak when finished. Prime95 immediately reach thermal throttle at 95C with L9i but now it manages to hover at 92C for a while until it reached thermal throttle anyway. I didnt swap the fan yet as its decent but a bit louder than the noctua. I dont have the Cryorig C7/C7G cooler for comparison so others may have more info. Good impression overall.

Cross posting my experience with the Thermalright AXP-90 Copper here as I got it from Taobao

Seller	Case	Style	Case Length (mm)	Case Width (mm)	Case Height (mm)	Volume (L)	Footprint (cm2)	Side Panel	CPU Height (mm)	AIO support	GPU Length (mm)	GPU Width (mm)	GPU Height (mm)	Motherboard	PSU	Storage	Case Fan	Price (CNY)
Captain S.	Captain S. V1	Classic	342	149	252	12.84	509.58	Glass/Alu	126	N/A	330	115	50	ITX	ATX	2.5x5 / (3.5x1+2.5x2)	80x2+12025x2	898.00
Captain S.	Captain S. V2	Sandwich	318	140	251	11.17	445.20	Glass/Alu	62	240mm	307	133	45	ITX	SFX/SFX-L	2.5x2	12025x3	899.00
Captain S.	Captain S. V3	Classic	328	165	274	14.83	541.20	Glass/Alu	140	N/A	?	132	60	ITX / MATX	SFX	3.5x1+2.5x2	9025x1 + (12015x1/14015x1) + 12025x2	969.00
Captain S.	Captain S. V6	Sandwich	188	142	267	7.13	266.96	Glass/Alu	67	N/A	178	?	45	ITX	SFX/SFX-L	2.5x4	12015x1	799.00
Critical	Critical cp-one	Sandwich	333	120	200	7.99	399.60	Aluminium	48	N/A	320	146	40	ITX	SFX	3.5x1+2.5x2	8015x2/9015x2	710.00
Critical	Critical cp-three	Classic	333	157	249	13.02	522.81	Aluminium	138	N/A	327	?	59	ITX	SFX	?	?	399.00
Critical	Critical cp-two	Sandwich	333	144	240	11.51	479.52	Acrylic/Alu	53	240mm	327	?	59	ITX	SFX	2.5x2	12015x1 + 12025x2	399.00
Deng Studio	Deng F12	Classic	332	167	250	13.86	554.44	Acrylic/Glass	135	240mm	320	130	55	ITX	SFX	2.5x4 / (3.5x1+2.5x2)	80x1 + 12015x3	1,259.00
Deng Studio	Deng F15 Pro	Classic	332	198	297	19.52	657.36	Glass	165	240mm	320	?	60	ITX / MATX?	SFX/ATX(140mm)	(2.5x6/3.5x3) / (2.5x3/(3.5x1+2.5x2))	120x1 + (120x2/140x2)	1,479.00
Deng Studio	Deng M25	Classic	370	198	340	24.91	732.60	Glass	165	240mm+280mm	?	?	60	ITX / MATX	SFX/ATX	3.5x2 + 2.5x2	9015x2 + 120x3 + (120x2/140x2)	1,759.00
Dream Case	Dream D1F-I	Classic	270	155	220	9.21	418.50	Steel/Acrylic	135	N/A	270	148	47	ITX	SFX/SFX-L	2.5x2	80x1/90x1	218.00
Dream Case	Dream D1F-M	Classic	330	155	285	14.58	511.50	Steel/Acrylic	135	N/A	330	148	60	ITX / MATX(250x250)	SFX/SFX-L	2.5x2 + 3.5x1	80x1/90x1 + 120x4	280.00
Dream Case	Dream D1FX	Sandwich	310	120	180	6.70	372.00	Steel/Acrylic	50	N/A	310	125	47	ITX	SFX	2.5x1	N/A	310.00
Dream Case	Dream D1U	Sandwich	240	110	220	5.81	264.00	Steel/Acrylic	38	N/A	240	?	47	ITX	Flex	2.5x2	N/A	188.00
Dream Case	Dream D1U-20	Sandwich	200	110	240	5.28	220.00	Steel/Acrylic	38	N/A	200	?	47	ITX / DTX(190x170)	Flex	2.5x2	8025x2	188.00
Dream Case	Dream D1U-240	Sandwich	315	130	260	10.65	409.50	Steel/Acrylic	55	240mm	310	148	50	ITX / DTX(190x170)	SFX	2.5x1	12025x2	350.00
Dream Case	Dream D1U-27	Sandwich	270	130	240	8.42	351.00	Steel/Acrylic	47	N/A	270	?	50	ITX / DTX(190x170)	Flex	2.5x2	12025x2	208.00
Formula Case	Formula Loli 1	Sandwich	?	?	?	?	?	Acrylic/Alu	48	N/A	?	?	40	ITX	Flex	2.5x3	9015x2	397.00
Formula Case	Formula X1	Sandwich	310	134	182	7.56	415.40	Aluminium	65	240mm /w top hat	304	125	45	ITX	SFX/SFX-L	2.5x6	12012x1 + 12025x1 + (12025x2 /w top hat)	1,388.00
Geeklab	Nano3	Sandwich	186	104	235	4.55	193.44	Acrylic/Alu	42	N/A	180	?	40	ITX	Flex	2.5x2 (9mm)	8010x2	387.00
Geeklab	Nano3c	Sandwich	186	106	236	4.65	197.16	Wood	43.5	N/A	180	?	40	ITX	Flex	2.5x2 (9mm)	8010x2	109.00
Geeklab	Nano3Plus	Sandwich	191	113	243	5.24	215.83	Acrylic/Alu	49	N/A	185	?	40	ITX	Flex	2.5x2 (9mm+14mm)	8015x2/9015x2	427.00
Geeklab	Nano3S	Sandwich	176	100	220	3.87	176.00	Acrylic/Alu	40	N/A	175	?	40	ITX	Flex	2.5x2 (7mm)	4010x1	427.00
Geeklab	Nano4 Pro	Sandwich	204	114	236	5.49	232.56	Aluminium	50.5	N/A	198	?	40	ITX	Flex	2.5x3	8015x2/9015x2	598.00
LZmod	LZ-A4 T31	Sandwich	316	127	213	8.55	401.32	Aluminium	50.62	N/A	310	138	50	ITX	SFX/SFX-L	2.5x4	8025x2	718.00
Mechanic Master	Mechanical Master C24	Classic	249	155	249	9.61	385.95	Glass/Alu	130	N/A	245	130	60	ITX / MATX(225x175)	SFX	2.5x4 + (3.5x1/2.5x2)	8015x2 + 9025x1 + (8025x2/12025x1)	599.00
Mechanic Master	Mechanical Master C26	Classic	315	155	265	12.94	488.25	Glass/Alu	130	240mm	310	118	60	ITX / MATX	SFX/SFX-L	2.5x4 + (3.5x1/2.5x2) + (3.5x2+2.5x2)	90x3 + 12025x2	829.00
Metalfish	Metalfish G5 Plus	Sandwich	320	140	260	11.65	448.00	Acrylic/Alu	60	N/A	300	?	40	ITX	SFX/SFX-L	2.5x2	12025x2	399.00
Metalfish	Metalfish S3	Sandwich	200	105	250	5.25	210.00	Alu/Acrylic/Glass	40	N/A	195	?	40	ITX	Flex	2.5x1 + (3.5x1/2.5x2)	8010x1	299.00
Metalfish	Metalfish S3 Plus	Sandwich	240	140	280	9.41	336.00	Glass/Alu	70	N/A	230	?	40	ITX	SFX/SFX-L	2.5x4	12025x1	379.00
Metalfish	Metalfish S5	Classic	300	160	260	12.48	480.00	Glass	135	N/A	290	132	60	ITX / MATX(245x220)	SFX/SFX-L	2.5x1 + 3.5x2	90x3 + 120x2	359.00
Seven.CME	Seven FL-A4	Sandwich	315	140	210	9.26	441.00	Aluminium	50	N/A	308	140	54	ITX	SFX/SFX-L	2.5x3	12015x2	588.00
Seven.CME	Seven M1 (10.8L)	Classic	317	155	220	10.81	491.35	Aluminium	125	N/A	308	112	40	ITX	SFX/SFX-L	(2.5x2+3.5x2) / 2.5(7mm)x8 / 2.5(14mm)x4	90x3	658.00
Seven.CME	Seven M1 (12.8L)	Classic	317	165	245	12.81	523.05	Aluminium	135	N/A	308	142	68	ITX	SFX/SFX-L	(2.5x2+3.5x2) / 2.5(7mm)x8 / 2.5(14mm)x4	90x3 + 12025x2	658.00
Seven.CME	Seven SL-A4	Sandwich	315	140	250	11.03	441.00	Aluminium	50	240mm	308	140	54	ITX	SFX/SFX-L	2.5x3	12025x2	628.00
SGPC	SGPC K29	Console	190	40	400	3.04	76.00	Aluminium	30	N/A	180	?	43	ITX / MATX(226x185)	Flex	2.5x4	N/A	289.00
SGPC	SGPC K39v2	Sandwich	180	100	220	3.96	180.00	Aluminium	47	N/A	180	?	43	ITX	Flex	2.5x2	N/A	179.00
SGPC	SGPC K55	Sandwich	304	116	174	6.14	352.64	Acrylic/Alu	55	N/A	305	134	43	ITX	SFX	2.5x2	N/A	269.00
SGPC	SGPC K66	Classic	190	160	230	6.99	304.00	Glass	55	N/A	190	133	60	ITX / MATX(226x190)	ATX	2.5x1	N/A	229.00
SGPC	SGPC K77	Classic	270	150	210	8.51	405.00	Glass	135	N/A	270	138	50	ITX	SFX	2.5x3	8025x2	299.00
SGPC	SGPC K99v2	Sandwich	310	130	240	9.67	403.00	Glass/Acrylic/Alu	65	240mm	305	140	43	ITX / MATX(226x190)	SFX	2.5x3	12025x2	359.00
SKTC	SKTC Q1	Classic	277	190	254	13.37	526.30	Alu/Acrylic/Glass	160	120mm	260	148	40	ITX / MATX(226x175)	SFX/ATX	2.5x2 + 3.5x1	120x1	239.00
SKTC	SKTC Q2	Classic	300	193	285	16.50	579.00	Alu/Glass	160	120mm	270	?	60	ITX / MATX(240x195)	SFX/ATX	(3.5x1+2.5x1) / 2.5x3	120x2	219.00
SKTC	SKTC S02	Sandwich	320	142	285	12.95	454.40	Tempered Glass & Alu	55	240mm	305	?	40	ITX	SFX	(3.5x1+2.5x1) / 2.5x2	12025x2	499.00
Small Case	Bs2 (Air)	Sandwich	320	138	210	9.27	441.60	Aluminium	62	N/A	298	125	42	ITX	SFX	2.5x2	12015x2	1,339.00
Small Case	Bs2 (Water)	Sandwich	320	138	248	10.95	441.60	Glass/Alu	57	240mm	298	125	45	ITX	SFX	2.5x2	12025x2	1,169.00
Small Case	Smallest One	Classic	280	149	212	8.84	417.20	Acrylic/Glass/Alu	125	N/A	268	112	40	ITX	SFX/SFX-L	2.5x4 / (3.5x1+2.5x2)	80x1/60x2	1,138.00
Sunmilo Studio	Sunmilo C01	Classic	280	185	235	12.17	518.00	Glass	160	120mm	277	?	40	ITX	SFX/SFX-L	2.5x2	120x1	899.00
Sunmilo Studio	Sunmilo C01s	Classic	280	160	235	10.53	448.00	Glass	135	N/A	277	?	40	ITX	SFX/SFX-L	2.5x1	80x1/90x1	899.00
Sunmilo Studio	Sunmilo S01	Sandwich	196	130	272	6.93	254.80	Aluminium	56	N/A	190	?	40	ITX	SFX/SFX-L	2.5x3	12015x1	739.00
Sunmilo Studio	Sunmilo T03	Sandwich	320	130	252	10.48	416.00	Glass/Alu & Glass	56	240mm	310	130	49	ITX	SFX	2.5x2	12025x2	839.00
Ultra Civilz	Ultra Civilz A4F	Sandwich	308	139	215	9.20	428.12	Aluminium/Glass?	68	N/A	300	?	45	ITX	SFX	2.5x3	9015x2 + 12015x2	999.00
Ultra Civilz	Ultra Civilz A4F-PY	Sandwich	306	143	215	9.41	437.58	Aluminium/Glass?	76	N/A	300	?	45	ITX	SFX	3.5x1 + 2.5x3	9015x2 + 12015x1	869.00
Ultra Civilz	Ultra Civilz A4F-XL	Sandwich	308	139	240	10.27	428.12	Aluminium	68	N/A	300	158	45	ITX	SFX/SFX-L	2.5x2	12025x4	999.00
Ultra Civilz	Ultra Civilz A4s	Sandwich	308	135	260	10.81	415.80	Tempered Glass	68	240mm	300	?	45	ITX	SFX	2.5x3	9015x2 + 12025x2	1,199.00
Ultra Civilz	Ultra Civilz M1	Classic	318	225	160	11.45	715.50	Aluminium/Glass?	138	240mm	310	?	58	ITX	SFX	3.5x1 + 2.5x3	80x1/90x1 + 120x2	969.00
Warhead Design	Warhead Dual Cool	Sandwich	250	130	370	12.03	325.00	Aluminium	50	2x240mm	320	150	60	ITX	SFX	2.5x2	12025x2	1,599.00
Warhead Design	Warhead Micro	Sandwich	315	129	230	9.35	406.35	Aluminium	55	240mm	300	?	52	ITX	SFX	2.5x2	12025x2	899.00
Warhead Design	Warhead Nano	Sandwich	235	129	220	6.67	303.15	Aluminium	55	120mm	230	?	40	ITX	Flex	2.5x4	12025x1	799.00
Warhead Design	Warhead Papyrus	Sandwich	277	130	195	7.02	360.10	Aluminium	110	120mm/240mm	195	?	?	ITX	SFX	2.5x3	6025x2 + 12025x2	599.00
Warhead Design	Warhead Sans L (A)	Sandwich	?	?	?	?	?	Aluminium	60	120mm/240mm	315	150	45	ITX	SFX	3.5x1 + 2.5x2	12025x2	499.00
Warhead Design	Warhead Sans L (B)	Sandwich	?	?	?	?	?	Aluminium	50	120mm/240mm	315	150	59	ITX	SFX	3.5x1 + 2.5x2	12025x2	499.00
Warhead Design	Warhead Toriel	Classic	282	185	272	14.19	521.70	Steel	130	N/A	275	150	40	ITX / MATX	ATX	3.5x1 + 2.5x2	8025x2 + 12025x4	499.00
天狼星机箱	Nova1024/T20	Sandwich	308	136	204	8.55	418.88	Acrylic/Glass/Alu	55	N/A	305	130	50	ITX	SFX	2.5x3	9015x3	382.00
天狼星机箱	RDX1024/T30	Sandwich	319	140	250	11.17	446.60	Acrylic/Glass	59	240mm	312	165	49	ITX	SFX/SFX-L	2.5x1	12025x2	570.00
天狼星机箱	T10	Sandwich	226	112.5	252.8	6.43	254.25	Aluminium	43	N/A	220	?	40	ITX	Flex	2.5x1	9015x2	372.00
天狼星机箱	T50	Sandwich	324	148	221	10.60	479.52	Acrylic/Glass	61	N/A	303	129	55	ITX	SFX/SFX-L	2.5x3	9015x3	307.00
小白DIY电脑机箱	DIY A4	Sandwich	306	126	220	8.48	385.56	Aluminium	52	N/A	290	120	42	ITX	SFX/SFX-L	2.5x2	9015x2/12015x1	829.00
机械库	JXK-F1	Classic	320	157	237	11.91	502.40	Alu/Acrylic	136	N/A	315	135	60	ITX	SFX	3.5x1 + 2.5x2	60x2	399.00
机械库	JXK-J1 (Motif clone)	Open	?	?	?	?	?	Open	Open	120mm	Open	Open	40	ITX	SFX/ATX	N/A	N/A	699.00
深蓝SL	SL-A4+	Sandwich	336	131	212	9.33	440.16	Glass?	49	120mm	320	?	40	ITX	SFX	2.5x4	40x3, 60x2, 80x2, 120x1	740.00
深蓝SL	SL-M1	Classic	335	168	238	13.39	562.80	Acrylic	140	240mm	320	130	60	ITX / MATX(225x175)	SFX/SFX-L	2.5x2 + (3.5x1/2.5x1)	80x2 + 120x1	799.00
祖传黑店	ZS-A4Sv2	Sandwich	274	115	194	6.11	315.10	Aluminium	49	N/A	269	140	42.5	ITX	Flex	2.5x4	8010x2?	760.00
祖传黑店	ZS-A4v2	Sandwich	316	129	185	7.54	407.64	Aluminium	48/60	N/A	311	141	42.5/54.5	ITX	SFX/SFX-L	2.5x2	N/A	850.00
老K机箱定制	Cube X1	Sandwich	310	138	240	10.27	427.80	Alu/Acrylic	55	240mm	300	135	54.5	ITX	SFX	2.5x3	12025x3	799.00
老K机箱定制	Cube X1m	Sandwich	310	138	200	8.56	427.80	Alu/Acrylic	65	N/A	300	135	44.5	ITX	SFX	2.5x3	12015x2 + 12025x1	769.00
老K机箱定制	K01	Sandwich	310	113	185	6.48	350.30	Glass & Alu/Alu	49	N/A	302	135	40	ITX	SFX	2.5x2	N/A	778.00
老K机箱定制	K02	Sandwich	315	130	240	9.83	409.50	Glass	55	240mm	306	140	54	ITX	SFX	2.5x3	12025x2	689.00
老K机箱定制	K03	Classic	282	147	228	9.45	414.54	Glass	125	N/A	275	112	46	ITX	SFX/SFX-L	2.5x3	N/A	789.00
老K机箱定制	Nano S1	Sandwich	182	101	236	4.34	183.82	Aluminium	39	N/A	175	?	40	ITX	Flex	2.5x2	8010x2	588.00
魔神科技电脑机箱城	Ghost S1 (clone)	Sandwich	310	137	186	7.90	424.70	Aluminium	63	240mm /w top hat	304	125	45	ITX	SFX/SFX-L	2.5x3	12025x2 /w top hat	598.00
魔神科技电脑机箱城	HGL A4	Sandwich	320	140	260	11.65	448.00	Tempered Glass & Alu	55	240mm	310	135	48	ITX	SFX	2.5x2	120x2	698.00
魔神科技电脑机箱城	Mini	Sandwich	200	120	250	6.00	240.00	Aluminium	45	N/A	185	145	45	ITX	Flex	2.5x2	8015x2/9015x2	299.00
魔神科技电脑机箱城	MS4	Sandwich	260	160	330	13.73	416.00	Aluminium	115	N/A	250	140	50	ITX / MATX(245x245)	SFX	2.5x3	8015x2 + 12025x1	388.00

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