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Memory Very low profile DDR4 ram
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Some overclocking info about the Innodisk VLP RAM (Samsung C-die). After a lot of trial and error (had to clear CMOS multiple times) I managed to overclock Innodisk VLP from 2667MHz 20-19-19-19-43 to 3200MHz 16-17-17-17-35. There's a substantial performance improvement but it's a shame that Samsung B-die VLP isn't available anymore. Intel platform would most likely allow higher clocks and/or tighter timings.
Here's an AIDA64 benchmark, stock and overclocked:
Timings:
Here's an AIDA64 benchmark, stock and overclocked:
Timings:
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These arrived...
VLP are soooo tiny! Too bad there was a production error with the Black Ridge.
VLP are soooo tiny! Too bad there was a production error with the Black Ridge.
I have a setup just about the same as you! I also just got my 8700T Engineering sample with Adata DDR4 2400 VLP ram. The cpu only tops at 50 deg at load with a stock intel cooler at 3.1GHz all cores!
I have an Asrock B360 itx board, thus I can't overclock the ram beyound 2666, but I'll try overclocking it with my ryzen setup.
It looks enoch just dropped their pricing on Innodisk 16GB VLP 2666MHz M4UI-AGS1WC0K-C to $169.40. Its not $150, but it is a lot better than it was. I have been watch this site for awhile now, waiting for the price to drop.
I've gathered some info on all VLP SKUs
ADATA (detailed link : http://industrial.adata.com/upload/catalog/industrial_catalog.pdf)
2400
AD4X2400316G17 - 4GB
AD4X2400W4G17 - 8GB
AD4X240038G17 - 16GB
2666
AD4C2666W4G19 - 4GB
AD4X266638G19 - 8GB
AD4X2666316G19 - 16GB
ECC
2400
AD4C2400W4G17 - 4GB
AD4C240038G17 - 8GB
AD4C2400316G17 - 16GB
2666
AD4C2666W4G19 - 4GB
AD4C266638G19 - 8GB
AD4C2666316G19 - 16GB
Not sure what these are but VLP DDR4
2133
AD4V2133W4G15 - 4GB
AD4V2133W8G15 - 8GB
AD4V2133Y8G15 - 8GB
AD4V2133Y16G15 - 16GB
AD4V2133316G15 - 16GB
2400
AD4V2400W4G17 - 4GB
AD4V2400W8G17 - 8GB
AD4V240038G17 - 8GB
AD4V2400316G17 - 16GB
Innodisk
2400
M4U0-4GSSVCSJ - 4GB single
M4U0-8GSSWCSJ - 8GB dual
M4U0-8GS1VCSJ - 8GB single
M4U0-AGS1WCSJ -16GB dual
2666
M4U0-4GSSVCIK - 4GB single
M4U0-8GSSWCIK - 8GB dual
M4U0-8GS1VCIK - 8GB single
M4U0-AGS1WCIK - 16GB dual
Crucial (too many SKUs....can't write all down)
2133
CT8G4VFS4213 - 8GB
CT16G4VFD4213 - 16GB
2400
MTA18ADF1G72PZ-2G3 - 8GB
CT16G4VFS424A - 16GB
Innodisk seems the cheapest because it's not buffered, non ECC.
and easy to source.
ADATA (detailed link : http://industrial.adata.com/upload/catalog/industrial_catalog.pdf)
2400
AD4X2400316G17 - 4GB
AD4X2400W4G17 - 8GB
AD4X240038G17 - 16GB
2666
AD4C2666W4G19 - 4GB
AD4X266638G19 - 8GB
AD4X2666316G19 - 16GB
ECC
2400
AD4C2400W4G17 - 4GB
AD4C240038G17 - 8GB
AD4C2400316G17 - 16GB
2666
AD4C2666W4G19 - 4GB
AD4C266638G19 - 8GB
AD4C2666316G19 - 16GB
Not sure what these are but VLP DDR4
2133
AD4V2133W4G15 - 4GB
AD4V2133W8G15 - 8GB
AD4V2133Y8G15 - 8GB
AD4V2133Y16G15 - 16GB
AD4V2133316G15 - 16GB
2400
AD4V2400W4G17 - 4GB
AD4V2400W8G17 - 8GB
AD4V240038G17 - 8GB
AD4V2400316G17 - 16GB
Innodisk
2400
M4U0-4GSSVCSJ - 4GB single
M4U0-8GSSWCSJ - 8GB dual
M4U0-8GS1VCSJ - 8GB single
M4U0-AGS1WCSJ -16GB dual
2666
M4U0-4GSSVCIK - 4GB single
M4U0-8GSSWCIK - 8GB dual
M4U0-8GS1VCIK - 8GB single
M4U0-AGS1WCIK - 16GB dual
Crucial (too many SKUs....can't write all down)
2133
CT8G4VFS4213 - 8GB
CT16G4VFD4213 - 16GB
2400
MTA18ADF1G72PZ-2G3 - 8GB
CT16G4VFS424A - 16GB
Innodisk seems the cheapest because it's not buffered, non ECC.
and easy to source.
https://www.ebay.de/itm/innodisk-Sa...P-UDIMM-RAM-M4C0-AGS1TCSJ-SINGLE/173685332559
Excess stock, just got myself two. Should be b die from what I can see on the pictures, but I'm not entirely sure. (The IC's have 5WB on them)
Just to be safe: I'm am not affiliated with the seller, I just thought that there might be some here that are also intrested in getting low profile memory.
Excess stock, just got myself two. Should be b die from what I can see on the pictures, but I'm not entirely sure. (The IC's have 5WB on them)
Just to be safe: I'm am not affiliated with the seller, I just thought that there might be some here that are also intrested in getting low profile memory.
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Just an FYI, the link you sent mentions it's the ECC model. It may not work in all configurations.
I ordered 2 of those about 2 weeks ago and just got cancelled.
any one with any luck and/or alternatives?
Wow for $160 thats a steal, I payed almost $260 for my 2x8GB kit in dual-rank.
EDIT: And thanks to @ceski and his amazing "DDR4 overclocking cheatsheet" spredsheet. I was able to tighten my RAM's timings and increase the clock speed of the RAM and increase my performance almost close to my CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-4000 kit... note that this RAM is dual-rank (dual sided) so Single-Rank may overclock higher. But this RAM is what is known as "industrial downbin" RAM which isn't meant for overclocking, and it's no Samsung B-die, but it's SAMSUNG E-die.
Here's my AIDA64 benchmartks:
Corsiar LPX 4000MHz
(19-23-23-45 CR2)
Read: 49644 MB/s
Write: 56790 MB/s
Copy: 46705 MB/s
Latency: 43.3 ns
(STOCK) Innodisk VLP DDR4 2666MHz 1.2v
(19-19-19-43 CR2)
Read: 38152 MB/s
Write: 41103 MB/s
Copy: 36841 MB/s
Latency: 57.2 ns
(OC) Innodisk VLP DDR4 3333MHz 1.392v
(14-18-18-36 394T CR2)
Read: 48632 MB/s
Write: 51818 MB/s
Copy: 46846 MB/s
Latency: 44.0 ns
my performance is almost identical except for the Write. I tried higher mem clocks and timing but this is the tightest timings, highest clock and lowest stable voltage for me to be Karhu Memtest 3200% stable.
And this is not bad considering my VLP DDR2 kit is downbin E-die.
EDIT: And thanks to @ceski and his amazing "DDR4 overclocking cheatsheet" spredsheet. I was able to tighten my RAM's timings and increase the clock speed of the RAM and increase my performance almost close to my CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-4000 kit... note that this RAM is dual-rank (dual sided) so Single-Rank may overclock higher. But this RAM is what is known as "industrial downbin" RAM which isn't meant for overclocking, and it's no Samsung B-die, but it's SAMSUNG E-die.
Here's my AIDA64 benchmartks:
Corsiar LPX 4000MHz
(19-23-23-45 CR2)
Read: 49644 MB/s
Write: 56790 MB/s
Copy: 46705 MB/s
Latency: 43.3 ns
(STOCK) Innodisk VLP DDR4 2666MHz 1.2v
(19-19-19-43 CR2)
Read: 38152 MB/s
Write: 41103 MB/s
Copy: 36841 MB/s
Latency: 57.2 ns
(OC) Innodisk VLP DDR4 3333MHz 1.392v
(14-18-18-36 394T CR2)
Read: 48632 MB/s
Write: 51818 MB/s
Copy: 46846 MB/s
Latency: 44.0 ns
my performance is almost identical except for the Write. I tried higher mem clocks and timing but this is the tightest timings, highest clock and lowest stable voltage for me to be Karhu Memtest 3200% stable.
And this is not bad considering my VLP DDR2 kit is downbin E-die.
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EDIT, i updated my post above with @ceski's spreadsheet cheatsheet he helped me with, for tuning RAM timing on DDR4, and even more specifically on Innodisk VLP DDR4 I know he's gone from our forums now, but he shared this with me and is okay with me sharing the wealth of information with yall!
I know he's gone from our forums now, but he shared this with me and is okay with me sharing the wealth of information with yall! I'd like to use an Alpenföhn Black Ridge inside a DAN case A4-SFX on an ASUS ROG Strix Z390-I Gaming, but it has the limitation that I have to put the fan below the coolor, rather than above as usual. If that fan shall be 120mm, I can only use VLP DIMMs.
Where do I get these DIMMs from? When looking for it I only find DDR3 RAM or server (ECC, registered) RAM. What I'd like to get is 2 * 16 GB DDR4 UDIMM.
Where do I get these DIMMs from? When looking for it I only find DDR3 RAM or server (ECC, registered) RAM. What I'd like to get is 2 * 16 GB DDR4 UDIMM.
Update 1: I received the Photos of Superbuy, they are indeed DDR4 2666 VLP U-DIMM.
Shipping today for additional USD 5.- = Total cost of USD100.- for 16GB DDR4 VLP. No I have to wait about 15-30 Days, until I receive them.
I just ordered the ADATA 2x8GB VLP 2666 RAM on Superbuy for a total of USD 95.- That's a steal in my opinion.
I'll update you with infos, when they arrive. I hope I receive the right ones
Link to Product site: https://www.superbuy.com/en/page/buy?url=http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=561186262122&nTag=Agent-product-taobao
You need to select "white" for the 2x8gb 2666mhz (orange is 2x8gb 2400mhz, dark purple is 1x8gb 2400mhz, navy blue is 1x8gb 2666mhz i suppose).
Shipping today for additional USD 5.- = Total cost of USD100.- for 16GB DDR4 VLP. No I have to wait about 15-30 Days, until I receive them.
I just ordered the ADATA 2x8GB VLP 2666 RAM on Superbuy for a total of USD 95.- That's a steal in my opinion.
I'll update you with infos, when they arrive. I hope I receive the right ones
Link to Product site: https://www.superbuy.com/en/page/buy?url=http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=561186262122&nTag=Agent-product-taobao
You need to select "white" for the 2x8gb 2666mhz (orange is 2x8gb 2400mhz, dark purple is 1x8gb 2400mhz, navy blue is 1x8gb 2666mhz i suppose).
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Posted my findings and experience with innodesk VLP ram in a different thread, but check it out:
https://smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/innodisk-booth-at-computex-2017.2322/page-4#post-133971
https://smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/innodisk-booth-at-computex-2017.2322/page-4#post-133971
Wonderful News!
I received the 2x8GB DDR4 VLP RAM from China.
They are indeed ADATA DDR4 RAM, in fact: AD4X266638G19.
But they do not have Samsung B-die, they have Memory-Chips from SpekTek, an OEM for Micron.
Short testing with my Ryzen 7 1700 resulted in a stable system at 3066C16-20-20-20 (no subtimings tuned, no long term stability tested yet)
In Comparison, this is about equal than my previous Hynix RAM at 3000C16-18-18-18 but lower than my current Samsung B-Die at 3200C14-15-15-15.
This means, I can recommend this RAM for any Intel-based system. For AMD-Systems it depends, if you can live with subpar no B-Die-RAM.
btw. this is my first part for my planned SFF build. Testing were done on my current midi-Tower Ryzen 7 1700 with Asus Prime X370-Pro Mobo.
I received the 2x8GB DDR4 VLP RAM from China.
They are indeed ADATA DDR4 RAM, in fact: AD4X266638G19.
But they do not have Samsung B-die, they have Memory-Chips from SpekTek, an OEM for Micron.
Short testing with my Ryzen 7 1700 resulted in a stable system at 3066C16-20-20-20 (no subtimings tuned, no long term stability tested yet)
In Comparison, this is about equal than my previous Hynix RAM at 3000C16-18-18-18 but lower than my current Samsung B-Die at 3200C14-15-15-15.
This means, I can recommend this RAM for any Intel-based system. For AMD-Systems it depends, if you can live with subpar no B-Die-RAM.
btw. this is my first part for my planned SFF build. Testing were done on my current midi-Tower Ryzen 7 1700 with Asus Prime X370-Pro Mobo.
That lines up pretty well with the experiences other users have had with the adata ram they have some headroom for frequency but the timings are among the worst you can get.
Frankly that hasn't bothered me as I still use my adata vlp almost daily
Fwiw, I found the wording on spektek being an oem for micron a bit confusing and I had to read up a bit more. If this helps clarify for others like me - spektek is a manufacturing division of micron
they have some headroom for frequency but the timings are among the worst you can get.Frankly that hasn't bothered me as I still use my adata vlp almost daily
Fwiw, I found the wording on spektek being an oem for micron a bit confusing and I had to read up a bit more. If this helps clarify for others like me - spektek is a manufacturing division of micron
