Would it be possible to put a 3080/3090 with a waterblock in there and do a full custom loop? (With a res and pump too)
Are you including a CPU in that loop? Because it's just not a good idea to try and run a CPU and 3080+ under a single 240. But going off the measurements you should be able to fit a reference or Fe card with a pump/micro resWould it be possible to put a 3080/3090 with a waterblock in there and do a full custom loop? (With a res and pump too)
@SFF Watercooled what he said... I think the new FE cards would be your best bet due to the short pcb.... But unless you're going to be undervolting or going for lets say the new ryzen 5600x that has a 65w tdp along with a 3070(3080?) it'll be tough to cool it all with a 240mm alone.Are you including a CPU in that loop? Because it's just not a good idea to try and run a CPU and 3080+ under a single 240. But going off the measurements you should be able to fit a reference or Fe card with a pump/micro res
Hey, thanks and i appreciate your interest! Sorry for the slow updates, but i assure you that it's still in progress.This thread has not been active for a long time... So I'm going to boot it up again! Can you find a way to remove the spine of the case to support larger GPUs? The GPU should be about 6mm closer to the mobo than before, making it easy for 3 slots. I would actually recommend 2.5 slots (50mm) because it's the perfect sweet spot (Most people agree, as shown in the FormD T1 poll). BTW, are you done with your build in the LytCase Rogue? I've been waiting for updates for quite a long time!
Although interestingly Optimum Tech's latest video showed a 10900k (overclocked) and an RTX 3090 (undervolted) running at very reasonable temperatures under a single 240mm radiator so GPU size shouldn't be a major concern if you expect people to be watercooling it like I am. I think an important factor would be to ensure there is at least 60mm from the side panel to the PSU at the end of the GPU chamber to allow for pump mounting.Hey, thanks and i appreciate your interest! Sorry for the slow updates, but i assure you that it's still in progress.
There were a few issues with the finish on the main chassis from the factory, but everything should be completed this week... "Should"
Im not opposed to expanding the GPU chamber, however the spine can't be removed, since its the main part of the internal support structure. I will however look at re-adjusting the clearances. But again i need to have it on hand to see it... They'll send it across to me when all is done, and ill do the build then.
Yes i was actually surprised by the results... Ill definitely look into having enough clearance for a ddc pump... Specially with the size of the reference pcb with the water block.... He said on his video the length is 220mm, that leave a fair bit of roomAlthough interestingly Optimum Tech's latest video showed a 10900k (overclocked) and an RTX 3090 (undervolted) running at very reasonable temperatures under a single 240mm radiator so GPU size shouldn't be a major concern if you expect people to be watercooling it like I am. I think an important factor would be to ensure there is at least 60mm from the side panel to the PSU at the end of the GPU chamber to allow for pump mounting.
Well its the weekend, will be able to talk to them on working days to get an update. But they had to redo the chassis last week and send it for painting. Add to the that the time difference.... well you get the picture.How's the case going? At the end of the week already!
I was also thinking about the height of the case. Since the T1 is 216mm high and has 42mm rad+fans, can you make the height shorter at ~220mm? It would make the case ~8.72L, which is a tad bit smaller
Ok so just to give you a history, the case started at 220mm height, but like the T1, the parts were in the flipped orientation.... Then I decided to go with a normal orientation, what this forces you to have is 3mm extra at the bottom as the motherboard IO hangs around 2.44mm below the tray, so 3mm is a safe clearance...
Then, came the problem of the PCI-E riser cable, the original clearance was 2mm between the motherboard tray and the rad chamber above it... that caused issues with bending the cable to fit exactly there and would mean that it will be touching the rad, which can block airflow.... so we increased that to 5mm adding an extra 3mm... that brings us to 226mm that we have.
Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to be compared to the top cases like the T1, but other than the support of hardware, my case is fundamentally different from the T1. Lot of differences of how the case is made and what it can support and what the clearances are.
I'm curious, what made you switch to normal orientation from flipped orientation?Ok so just to give you a history, the case started at 220mm height, but like the T1, the parts were in the flipped orientation.... Then I decided to go with a normal orientation, what this forces you to have is 3mm extra at the bottom as the motherboard IO hangs around 2.44mm below the tray, so 3mm is a safe clearance...
Then, came the problem of the PCI-E riser cable, the original clearance was 2mm between the motherboard tray and the rad chamber above it... that caused issues with bending the cable to fit exactly there and would mean that it will be touching the rad, which can block airflow.... so we increased that to 5mm adding an extra 3mm... that brings us to 226mm that we have.
the width of the Rogue is currently 130mm after the changes to the thickness of the panels... 1.5mm instead of 1mm... that adds 0.5mm each side = 130mm.
As for your math comparing the T1 clearances... 1 key fact that the T1 does is not have a motherboard tray.... that allows it to have the motherboard and the GPU sit closer than usual to each other... which gives it the extra few mms.... going with the traditional layout, with the tray and all, confines me to the standard clearances... 6mm standoff and 5mm clearance for the GPU from the back of the tray....
Multiple factors, but the main one is I like it that way lol... I've always felt weird having the components flipped ?I'm curious, what made you switch to normal orientation from flipped orientation?
Thanks man.. it has been a rough year, and balancing this with work has been hell.... But I am determined to see it through.... Even if down the line I face something that kills the project, i won't be content if I didn't see it through.If comparisons were to be made, I would be closer to comparing this case to the original Dan C4 that died in development hell. That should also be considered a good thing, as that's the C4 I know I wanted. The current iteration is nice, but doesn't have me excited like the OG version did. Your case, on the other hand, has me quite excited, and I'm glad you're still moving forward with it despite an awful year to be pursuing something quite like this.
Well, the most optimal position for the AIO in sff cases is to have it at the top... And for example in the t1 to have it there, the GPU and mobo are upside down hence flipped...Can you specify what you mean by "normal" and "flipped" orientation? Kinda confused right now
Basically, all AIO cases use an orientation like the T1, so all of them are "flipped" and not "normal"?
Actually no... In the FormD T1, only the GPU is flippedWell, the most optimal position for the AIO in sff cases is to have it at the top... And for example in the t1 to have it there, the GPU and mobo are upside down hence flipped...
Yeah ok, but there's polls you knowIdeas for V2? Man he hasn't even got to release V1 ... chill. I woulnd't be so sure about people wanting or not wanting something unless you get feedback. Flipped/normal allows people to place their ITX builds on either side of their monitor, having both means there is more options to the end user and less SKUs. I might not like it, you might not like it but that doesn't mean others don't.