Prototype The world most flexible SFF case? LOUQE Ghost S1

[SFFanatic]

Hey guys, the Big Shuriken 3 does actually fit in the Ghost S1 (with minimal but easy modification). Here is a link to the gallery:
The motherboard I use is the Asus z270i Strix and the fan is the NF A12x15 PWM. I didn't try to install the cooler with the fan that it comes with, but I measured the thickness of both and they are both 15mm thick.

The cooler and the Noctua fan actually fit without any mods, the only problem is the screws, which is why I decided to mount it from the bottom.

Some questions:

1. How hard is the mod?
2. Does the mod require a Dremel?
3. What is the turbulence noise like while gaming?
4. Do you think it will have enough clearance for the new ROG Strix X570-I Gaming?

 

[SFFanatic]

this is awesome, what cpu are yoou cooling ! mind throwing in some thermal benchmarks?

It appears to be about a 3 degree improvement over the Big Shuriken 2 according to:


This means the average temp should be 5 degrees lower than the famous Noctua NH-L12

I think we have a new leader of ghost air coolers folks!

p.s just ordered my BS3 for £45

 

[bolo_1221]

How much does having the fan right on the grill make? Is turbulence an issue?
I'm not sure how to measure turbulence, however, I did run some tests with and without the CPU side panel on.

this is awesome, what CPU are you cooling! mind throwing in some thermal benchmarks?
Yes! First, the specs:
CPU: QuadCore Intel Core i7-6700K
Cooler: Big Shuriken 3 + Noctua NF A12x15
RAM: 8GB (2x4GB) not low profile
Motherboard: Asus Strix Z270I Gaming
GPU: AMD Radeon R9 290x (4 GB)
PSU: Corsair SF600
Case: Ghost S1 without any case fans and top hats.

I don't want my post here to be huge, so I'll just comment on my results on Imgur.


For a small conclusion, the BS3 is an amazing cooler. It not only cools your CPU but also the VRMs and stuff, has no maximum ram height, and the fan mounting is probably the best in the market since it uses standard 120mm fan mounts.

PS: sorry for the delay, went out last night

 

[GerryMz]

How much does having the fan right on the grill make? Is turbulence an issue?
I'm not sure how to measure turbulence, however, I did run some tests with and without the CPU side panel on.

this is awesome, what CPU are you cooling! mind throwing in some thermal benchmarks?
Yes! First, the specs:
CPU: QuadCore Intel Core i7-6700K
Cooler: Big Shuriken 3 + Noctua NF A12x15
RAM: 8GB (2x4GB) not low profile
Motherboard: Asus Strix Z270I Gaming
GPU: AMD Radeon R9 290x (4 GB)
PSU: Corsair SF600
Case: Ghost S1 without any case fans and top hats.

I don't want my post here to be huge, so I'll just comment on my results on Imgur.


For a small conclusion, the BS3 is an amazing cooler. It not only cools your CPU but also the VRMs and stuff, has no maximum ram height, and the fan mounting is probably the best in the market since it uses standard 120mm fan mounts.

PS: sorry for the delay, went out last night

thanks a lot man ! appreciate the work, btw have you delidded your 6700k?

 

[rfarmer]

How much does having the fan right on the grill make? Is turbulence an issue?
I'm not sure how to measure turbulence, however, I did run some tests with and without the CPU side panel on.

this is awesome, what CPU are you cooling! mind throwing in some thermal benchmarks?
Yes! First, the specs:
CPU: QuadCore Intel Core i7-6700K
Cooler: Big Shuriken 3 + Noctua NF A12x15
RAM: 8GB (2x4GB) not low profile
Motherboard: Asus Strix Z270I Gaming
GPU: AMD Radeon R9 290x (4 GB)
PSU: Corsair SF600
Case: Ghost S1 without any case fans and top hats.

I don't want my post here to be huge, so I'll just comment on my results on Imgur.


For a small conclusion, the BS3 is an amazing cooler. It not only cools your CPU but also the VRMs and stuff, has no maximum ram height, and the fan mounting is probably the best in the market since it uses standard 120mm fan mounts.

PS: sorry for the delay, went out last night

Thanks for the testing, I was curious how the BS3 would work in the Ghost. I still have a BS2 which works really well just wish it had AM4 mounting.

As far as turbulence goes believe me you can tell. My Ghost is water cooled with a top mounted radiator, the radiator + fan comes to 54mm and the way the top grill fits inside the top hat puts the fans within like 1mm of the grill. At load I can hear the turbulence from the fans, not loud but noticeable, when I remove the grill the sound stops. If you don't hear a noticeable difference with the side panels on or off you are good.

Oh and btw not surprised with your R9 290x temps, those things always were space heaters.

 

[bolo_1221]

thanks a lot man ! appreciate the work, btw have you delidded your 6700k?

Yes! Forgot to mention that. I use normal thermal paste between the CPU and IHS and a graphite thermal pad from Innovation-Cooling between the cooler and IHS.

 

[SFFanatic]

Yes! Forgot to mention that. I use normal thermal paste between the CPU and IHS and a graphite thermal pad from Innovation-Cooling between the cooler and IHS.

Do you think a 3700X could cope well in a Ghost with a BS3? I'm planing to pair this CPU with my 2080.

 

[GerryMz]

Do you think a 3700X could cope well in a Ghost with a BS3? I'm planing to pair this CPU with my 2080.

i'm also planning to do this !, i did notice the 6700k was producing 102watts of heat and it was already at 82C degrees, not to mention it's only 4cores/8threads and 95wats tdp

 

[SFFanatic]

i'm also planning to do this !, i did notice the 6700k was producing 102watts of heat and it was already at 82C degrees, not to mention it's only 4cores/8threads and 95wats tdp

We will find a way not to use tophats!!! ??

 

[bolo_1221]

Some questions:

1. How hard is the mod?
2. Does the mod require a Dremel?
3. What is the turbulence noise like while gaming?
4. Do you think it will have enough clearance for the new ROG Strix X570-I Gaming?

1. easy
2. Anything that makes holes with a diameter of 4.8mm.
3. Thank you rfarmer for the tips about the turbulence. Sadly I made a video about testing turbulence with ammonium chloride gas before reading this, please don't watch it it's cringy... Anyway, to test the noise difference, I blocked my GPU fan using a screwdriver and then comparing the noise with and without the side panel on. I can definitely say there is a noticeable difference. At 60% fan speed w/o side panel, the fan is basically inaudible (very low humming noise) from about 30cm. With the side panel on the noise is a little bit higher pitch, and louder. I have to reduce the speed to 45% to make it as quiet as before.
4. About 4.2mm of clearance for the io backplate/VRM heatsink. I can confidently say that there will be no issues on the side of the IO, however, what concerns me is the bottom part, which seems to be the same height as the rest of the cover. The BS3 reaches almost the end of the RAM slots (no idea how to describe this), and the big cover/heatsink at the bottom of the X570i board seems like it will be a problem. However, I do see screws, which means you could remove it completely and/or make your own heatsink.

Do you think a 3700X could cope well in a Ghost with a BS3? I'm planing to pair this CPU with my 2080.

According to this website, the 3700X will have a TDP of 65W, but it seems fishy because the 3600X, which has 2 fewer cores, has a TDP of 95W. wtf? Assuming this is true, I can imagine it being completely fine since the 6700k has a TDP of 91W listed on Intel's website. Time will tell.


All things aside, I made a tutorial explaining every detail of the modding and installation. For those who want even more info:

 

[loopaddiction]

I was actually going to ask if the 3900X would be OK in an air-cooled S1 with BS3, but I guess that's a bit too ambitious, haha. I'm guessing water-cooled is the only solution for that CPU.

Interested to see upcoming 3700X/3900X + S1 builds in the coming months though. These new Ryzen chips look amazing. Hopefully at least the 3700X is feasible in an air-cooled build with the BS3.

 

[promaty]

Any idea when we will have Ghost cases with glass panels?

 

[Questors]

Any idea when we will have Ghost cases with glass panels?

Please, don't give them any ideas. I am STILL waiting for my medium size tophats from an October 2018 order. If they start adding new accessories, those who order the chassis will never get them.

You could make one yourself or order a piece of glass cut and drilled to your needs. Of course it will be costly.

 

[dKenGuru]

Not in this year

 

[SFFanatic]

Any idea when we will have Ghost cases with glass panels?

Hopefully never. That would destroy the cooling.

 

[dKenGuru]

Hopefully never. That would destroy the cooling.

Not for water.

 

[rfarmer]

Not for water.

My thoughts exactly, my Ghost is water cooled and TG panels would look and work great with my setup.

 

[promaty]

Yeah that's why I didn't back the first batch, if I'm going to do water cooling then it's going to be custom loop with window panels. I don't want to hide all of my hard work behind the grill.

 

[SFFanatic]

Not for water.

This really isn't the case for watercooling IMO unless you are prepared to go mad with tophats, at which point you may as well just go for the Ncase.

 

[dKenGuru]

This really isn't the case for watercooling IMO unless you are prepared to go mad with tophats, at which point you may as well just go for the Ncase.

Any case can be watercooled in someway. For Ghost you need only one L top hat for create normal loop. With L+M top hats it is more easy.
If you can't, it doesn't mean, what no one can.