Prototype The world most flexible SFF case? LOUQE Ghost S1

brt02

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It better not mean Louqe charging us more.

If you're on slack, there's a live Q&A seession with Patrik on Thursday 16:30 to 18:00 CET. Probably the best place to ask. We can only speculate here, we don't even know where the cases are manufactured.
 

brt02

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Any pics you can share? Is there a way of joining the slack thread, as a non-kickstarter backer?

Sorry, i only just saw the second part of your post. They send an email with the invite. Try sending an email to hello@louqe.com and asking for one. There are several channels on there with build ideas, GPU support etc.. and it will most likely remain active after the cases are released.
 

Flyingpepper

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If you're on slack, there's a live Q&A seession with Patrik on Thursday 16:30 to 18:00 CET. Probably the best place to ask. We can only speculate here, we don't even know where the cases are manufactured.

If there’s a price bump, I look forward to the riot that ensues.
 

Chrip

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If there’s a price bump, I look forward to the riot that ensues.
Fortunately I don't think they can raise the price at this point without giving us an option to cancel our orders. Legally speaking.

If the price increases, I am 100% cancelling my order.
 

Daemos

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Feb 3, 2017
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Fortunately I don't think they can raise the price at this point without giving us an option to cancel our orders. Legally speaking.

If the price increases, I am 100% cancelling my order.

I wonder if US customs can add the tariffs on when it's imported and pass it onto the person receiving it...
 

Longbow072

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Sep 25, 2018
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I'm just over here waiting for them to get the first order out of the way so I can get in line.

Its on the only SFF case so far that fits what I want/need for an upgrade from my Node 202- 240mm AIO while keeping the full sized GFX card I have with space for a future upgrade, and improved thermals overall.
 

TeutonJon78

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I wonder if US customs can add the tariffs on when it's imported and pass it onto the person receiving it...

Yes, they can. That is part of what customs does with any package. If they decide it needs to have duties levied on it, then the recipient needs to pay that before getting the package or fight the decision. That's why a lot of the Chinese vendors send things as "gifts" valued at a certain value rather than true value and newly purchased item. Any gift is allowed in duty free as long as it's below a certain dollar value (which is like $50-200 -- I don't remember exactly -- I think more towards the $50).
 
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SeeFiFo

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I believe the tariff are based on time of entry to the states. But this only applies to China, and not Taiwan.

AFAIK, this factory is in China. Lian Li is in Taiwan, but this is not Lian Li.

Fortunately I don't think they can raise the price at this point without giving us an option to cancel our orders. Legally speaking.

If the price increases, I am 100% cancelling my order.

I don't see how a tariff change in a particular country would legally force Louqe to allow order cancelling, since the problem lies with customs, entirely.

The price won't increase, but the tariffs would add an additional fee, separately charged by customs.
 
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AFAIK, this factory is in China. Lian Li is in Taiwan, but this is not Lian Li.



I don't see how a tariff change in a particular country would legally force Louqe to allow order cancelling, since the problem lies with customs, entirely.

The price won't increase, but the tariffs would add an additional fee, separately charged by customs.
I did a search through Slack, and thought I saw that the factory is in Taiwan. I could be reading the posts out of context, am may be wrong.
If it is mainland China, there will be tariffs, and it will be up to Louqe and the manufacturer how to pay for the parts coming to the states. They might split the difference. For this case, it is a relatively small business deal, so I don’t see the factory chipping in... just my speculation
 

Chrip

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I don't see how a tariff change in a particular country would legally force Louqe to allow order cancelling, since the problem lies with customs, entirely.

The price won't increase, but the tariffs would add an additional fee, separately charged by customs.

I didn't know that customs would be charging us. I thought they would charge Louqe, who would anticipate it and ask us for more money before sending out the merch.

Aren't these tariffs supposed to screw over companies and not the people of America? So confused
 

greyhound

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I didn't know that customs would be charging us. I thought they would charge Louqe, who would anticipate it and ask us for more money before sending out the merch.

Aren't these tariffs supposed to screw over companies and not the people of America? So confused
if a company have to pay 20% more to import its products in the USA it will increase the price of its products by 20%...
 

SeeFiFo

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I didn't know that customs would be charging us. I thought they would charge Louqe, who would anticipate it and ask us for more money before sending out the merch.

Aren't these tariffs supposed to screw over companies and not the people of America? So confused

I'm in the EU, so I don't know exactly how it works in the US. I could be wrong.

Tariffs usually end up hurting the people in some way or another, because the companies usually raise their prices to cover it. Especially in the computer parts business, where margins are low, I wouldn't expect the companies to take the hit.
 

Bangle

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AFAIK, this factory is in China. Lian Li is in Taiwan, but this is not Lian Li.



I don't see how a tariff change in a particular country would legally force Louqe to allow order cancelling, since the problem lies with customs, entirely.

The price won't increase, but the tariffs would add an additional fee, separately charged by customs.
I did a search through Slack, and thought I saw that the factory is in Taiwan. I could be reading the posts out of context, am may be wrong.
If it is mainland China, there will be tariffs, and it will be up to Louqe and the manufacturer how to pay for the parts coming to the states. They might split the difference. For this case, it is a relatively small business deal, so I don’t see the factory chipping in... just my speculation

It is the tariff for pc cases / accessories? I'm guessing if anything they will absorb the cost on 1st batch shipments, as they have already taken pre-orders. 2nd batch on wards might be more expensive by say $10 (with them absorbing some of the cost). Hopefully this is the case for US orders.
 

Bangle

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Apr 12, 2018
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if a company have to pay 20% more to import its products in the USA it will increase the price of its products by 20%...

Depends on what they state the value of the goods are. I know some manufactures state production cost as a value, to lower customs duty. I know this is the case in the UK. The assumption is they will sell at retail price, with is covered by a 20% VAT tax. Also depending on profit margins some tariff costs could be absorbed. I guess we can only wait and see.
 

Daemos

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Feb 3, 2017
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I didn't know that customs would be charging us. I thought they would charge Louqe, who would anticipate it and ask us for more money before sending out the merch.

Aren't these tariffs supposed to screw over companies and not the people of America? So confused

Louqe is based out of Sweden, the USA has zero authority over Sweden based companies which have no business presence in the USA.

Tariffs are applied to imports and are applied to those who import the products attracting the tariffs. In this case it will be the individuals who live in the USA who have purchased the case, if the tariffs are applicable to the case and are collected by US Customs.
 

Phuncz

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Josh from NFC mentions the tariffs and how it should affect SFF cases very little, due to the material being used is so minor. Much of the cost in a case is shaping the case, not the raw materials which are getting the increased tax.