Production FormD T1 Classic (READ FIRST POST)

[Wahaha360]

Won’t this configuration pose problems with air bubbles, with the pump being higher than the radiator? I suppose you can flip it, but would be good if positive pressure can be retained.

Also what type of reservoir is that? Never seen it before.

You can flip the case to remove the bubble first, then flip back to normal orientation for real use. Air bubble is only a concern for custom loops, if you are going custom, no extra work.

There is a Fill Port on the Alphacool LT DC-LT Pump in addition to the Inlet and Outlet ports, so bubbles can be minimized. You don't have to rid all bubbles for the Alphaccool LT pump to be quiet. I have tested with little bubble vs. no bubble, the fans will be louder at a certain point, so the pump noise is not an issue.

It is not a reservoir, it's Alphacool Flow Indicator with Integrated Filter G1/4, since this build is intended for Alphacool Booth at Computex, I want to show off this unique product.

 

[PBJ]

You can flip the case to remove the bubble first, then flip back to normal orientation for real use. Air bubble is only a concern for custom loops, if you are going custom, no extra work.

There is a Fill Port on the Alphacool LT DC-LT Pump in addition to the Inlet and Outlet ports, so bubbles can be minimized. You don't have to rid all bubbles for the Alphaccool LT pump to be quiet. I have tested with little bubble vs. no bubble, the fans will be louder at a certain point, so the pump noise is not an issue.

It is not a reservoir, it's Alphacool Flow Indicator with Integrated Filter G1/4, since this build is intended for Alphacool Booth at Computex, I want to show off this unique product.

The LT pump/block seems appropriate for this case so l will probably get one of those and the flow indicator sounds like it would be helpful especially because of the filter.

Looks great. Hope you can 3D print those tubes and thanks for the answer!

 

[Metroversal]

There are range of Space Gray, if you are referring to the real Apple Space Gray, there is only one supplier we have access to, and the price is silly territory (around ~$300-$500 just for the color at low volume).

So we are experimenting with other Gray colors, so the color option will be set after we get the anodized samples and pick a color.

What about Gunmetal Gray? It should be a valid alternative imho ?

 

[Snakeyjakey]

All black would be a super good look for this case too! So exciting!

 

[BillT]

There are range of Space Gray, if you are referring to the real Apple Space Gray, there is only one supplier we have access to, and the price is silly territory (around ~$300-$500 just for the color at low volume).

So we are experimenting with other Gray colors, so the color option will be set after we get the anodized samples and pick a color.

Maybe not $300 more lol!
Yeah like others said, if all Black is possible that would be even nicer. I just personally prefer darker colors on a case.

 

[forstsiven]

What about Cerakote? Looks pretty slick on custom keyboards.

 

[Beardedswede]

I just want it matt sandblasted a la apple or surface ?

 

[forstsiven]

I just want it matt sandblasted a la apple or surface ?

The challenge with anodizing is that defects during the process can be quite costly to fix, eating into the profit margin. It's also pretty susceptible to damage; Cerakote is very durable, potentially expensive, but there are over a 100 possible colors. I'd like a high quality ano too, but wouldn't be opposed to cerakote.

 

[AMv8-1day]

The challenge with anodizing is that defects during the process can be quite costly to fix, eating into the profit margin. It's also pretty susceptible to damage; Cerakote is very durable, potentially expensive, but there are over a 100 possible colors. I'd like a high quality ano too, but wouldn't be opposed to cerakote.

Fine.
Nickle plating then. Screw it.
Let's go big and do the chameleon 15 layer paint job.

 

[forstsiven]

Fine.
Nickle plating then. Screw it.
Let's go big and do the chameleon 15 layer paint job.

Polished stainless steel.

 

[BillT]

Polished stainless steel.

Yeah right. If we are going full Apple, might as well use TSMC 7nm EUV to make the USB C controller chip. And then make a sapphire crystal side panel.

 

[forstsiven]

Yeah right. If we are going full Apple, might as well use TSMC 7nm EUV to make the USB C controller chip. And then make a sapphire crystal side panel.

Stainless steel keyboards exist. It's possible. Pricey, though.

 

[Wahaha360]

Didn't have a chance to post images until now.

Had to change the proportion of the Front Lid and Front Chassis to make room for fittings. There is no other way.

 

[BillT]

Didn't have a chance to post images until now.

Had to change the proportion of the Front Lid and Front Chassis to make room for fittings. There is no other way.

One thing I've always wanted to ask is, why do people assume it's negative air pressure in the flipped aka rad on top orientation?

Just flip the fan so they suck in air from the top. According to Optimum Tech, GPU on bottom has really awful temps (Ncase M1 2080Ti). I imagine rads are similar, putting them on top will give much better temps.

 

[PBJ]

One thing I've always wanted to ask is, why do people assume it's negative air pressure in the flipped aka rad on top orientation?

Just flip the fan so they suck in air from the top. According to Optimum Tech, GPU on bottom has really awful temps (Ncase M1 2080Ti). I imagine rads are similar, putting them on top will give much better temps.

I have this question as well. I think that it’s because hot air rises and it’s more beneficial to have the rad on top as an exhaust instead of pushing hot air into the case.

I’d imagine that doing everything possible for temps in a small case like this can make a significant difference.

 

[BillT]

I have this question as well. I think that it’s because hot air rises and it’s more beneficial to have the rad on top as an exhaust instead of pushing hot air into the case.

I’d imagine that doing everything possible for temps in a small case like this can make a significant difference.

It was either LTT or Gamersnexus who did a test on this, and it turned out blowing hot air up vs down makes virtually no difference in temp.

The small density difference in air due to temperature is no where near the power of even a low RPM fan. Limited air intake as on the bottom of the case though, has been shown to significantly worsen temperature.

 

[PBJ]

It was either LTT or Gamersnexus who did a test on this, and it turned out blowing hot air up vs down makes virtually no difference in temp.

The small density difference in air due to temperature is no where near the power of even a low RPM fan. Limited air intake as on the bottom of the case though, has been shown to significantly worsen temperature.

Good to know that there’s that alternative. More dust inside the case is not a good compromise for me.

In the end, I guess the ideal configuration will depend on the parts chosen by each person and their preference. Each have their pros and cons.

 

[LegendsofMace]

@Wahaha360 Still planning on showing this off at Computex? Would love to see video/pictures of it in action there!

 

[Wahaha360]

@Wahaha360 Still planning on showing this off at Computex? Would love to see video/pictures of it in action there!

The CNC tool path is choice and tolerance it tight, almost ready for Computex.

 

[BillT]

The CNC tool path is choice and tolerance it tight, almost ready for Computex.

The CNC aluminum looks premium as hell! Any updates on color options?

But then again, this raw unprocessed CNC texture looks so good, would you consider making it a finish option?