S4 MINI Classic (S4M-C)

[Mr Quimper]

While I am waiting for my case to arrive, I was looking for a bit of assistance on the specs. The idea was to go with a RYZEN processor and corresponding motherboard. Listed below are all of the components that I plan on acquiring.

Confirmations and concerns would be greatly appreciated.

Case
S4 Mini

Motherboard
BIOSTAR X370GTN

Processor
AMD RYZEN 7 1700X 8-Core 3.4 GHz (3.8 GHz Turbo) Socket AM4 95W YD170XBCAEWOF

Hard drive
WD Blue 1TB Internal SSD Solid State Drive - SATA 6Gb/s 2.5 Inch - WDS100T1B0A

Ram
Ballistix Sport LT 32GB Kit (16GBx2) DDR4 2400 MT/s (PC4-19200) DIMM 288-Pin BLS2K16G4D240FSC (White)

Graphic card
ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1060 Mini, ZT-P10600A-10L, 6GB GDDR5

Power supply
677765-003 GENUINE HP 19.5V 11.8A 230W
HDPLEX 400W Hi-Fi DC-ATX Power Supply (16V-24V Wide Range Voltage Input)

Cooling
Noctua Low-Profile Quiet CPU Cooler for Intel 115x Based Retail Cooling NH-L9I

 

[DocH]

While I am waiting for my case to arrive, I was looking for a bit of assistance on the specs. The idea was to go with a RYZEN processor and corresponding motherboard. Listed below are all of the components that I plan on acquiring.

Confirmations and concerns would be greatly appreciated.

Case
S4 Mini

Motherboard
BIOSTAR X370GTN

Processor
AMD RYZEN 7 1700X 8-Core 3.4 GHz (3.8 GHz Turbo) Socket AM4 95W YD170XBCAEWOF

Hard drive
WD Blue 1TB Internal SSD Solid State Drive - SATA 6Gb/s 2.5 Inch - WDS100T1B0A

Ram
Ballistix Sport LT 32GB Kit (16GBx2) DDR4 2400 MT/s (PC4-19200) DIMM 288-Pin BLS2K16G4D240FSC (White)

Graphic card
ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1060 Mini, ZT-P10600A-10L, 6GB GDDR5

Power supply
677765-003 GENUINE HP 19.5V 11.8A 230W
HDPLEX 400W Hi-Fi DC-ATX Power Supply (16V-24V Wide Range Voltage Input)

Cooling
Noctua Low-Profile Quiet CPU Cooler for Intel 115x Based Retail Cooling NH-L9I

i would say your hp power cord is underpowered especially since the 1700x can pull 143 watts under work. It is a 95 tdp watt cpu but since it has so many cores it requires more wattage and needs more heat removal. You should get the dell 330w brick at least.

 

[Josh | NFC]

While I am waiting for my case to arrive, I was looking for a bit of assistance on the specs. The idea was to go with a RYZEN processor and corresponding motherboard. Listed below are all of the components that I plan on acquiring.

Confirmations and concerns would be greatly appreciated.

Case
S4 Mini

Motherboard
BIOSTAR X370GTN

Processor
AMD RYZEN 7 1700X 8-Core 3.4 GHz (3.8 GHz Turbo) Socket AM4 95W YD170XBCAEWOF

Hard drive
WD Blue 1TB Internal SSD Solid State Drive - SATA 6Gb/s 2.5 Inch - WDS100T1B0A

Ram
Ballistix Sport LT 32GB Kit (16GBx2) DDR4 2400 MT/s (PC4-19200) DIMM 288-Pin BLS2K16G4D240FSC (White)

Graphic card
ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1060 Mini, ZT-P10600A-10L, 6GB GDDR5

Power supply
677765-003 GENUINE HP 19.5V 11.8A 230W
HDPLEX 400W Hi-Fi DC-ATX Power Supply (16V-24V Wide Range Voltage Input)

Cooling
Noctua Low-Profile Quiet CPU Cooler for Intel 115x Based Retail Cooling NH-L9I

i would say your hp power cord is underpowered especially since the 1700x can pull 143 watts under work. It is a 95 tdp watt cpu but since it has so many cores it requires more wattage and needs more heat removal. You should get the dell 330w brick at least.

Your power brick @Mr Quimper technically is sufficient. I would say if you got it for a good price give it a shot. But if the price is close--close the gap and bump up a bit.

I'm actually going to order one now for testing as it seems you can get them very cheap and it should be enough for a 1060 system if it can maintain 200w.

 

[nix]

While I am waiting for my case to arrive, I was looking for a bit of assistance on the specs. The idea was to go with a RYZEN processor and corresponding motherboard. Listed below are all of the components that I plan on acquiring.

Confirmations and concerns would be greatly appreciated.

Case
S4 Mini

Motherboard
BIOSTAR X370GTN

Processor
AMD RYZEN 7 1700X 8-Core 3.4 GHz (3.8 GHz Turbo) Socket AM4 95W YD170XBCAEWOF

Hard drive
WD Blue 1TB Internal SSD Solid State Drive - SATA 6Gb/s 2.5 Inch - WDS100T1B0A

Ram
Ballistix Sport LT 32GB Kit (16GBx2) DDR4 2400 MT/s (PC4-19200) DIMM 288-Pin BLS2K16G4D240FSC (White)

Graphic card
ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1060 Mini, ZT-P10600A-10L, 6GB GDDR5

Power supply
677765-003 GENUINE HP 19.5V 11.8A 230W
HDPLEX 400W Hi-Fi DC-ATX Power Supply (16V-24V Wide Range Voltage Input)

Cooling
Noctua Low-Profile Quiet CPU Cooler for Intel 115x Based Retail Cooling NH-L9I

What are 95w TDP Ryzen's like with the L9i/a in the S4 mini? I'm on the fence between 1600 and 1600x (65 vs 95w) due to cooling.

The official notice on the site says: Recommended with good case ventilation and typical workloads only (not recommended for continuous 100% load on all CPU cores).

 

[threestripevida]

What are 95w TDP Ryzen's like with the L9i/a in the S4 mini? I'm on the fence between 1600 and 1600x (65 vs 95w) due to cooling.

The official notice on the site says: Recommended with good case ventilation and typical workloads only (not recommended for continuous 100% load on all CPU cores).

TekEverything posted a video with a Ryzen 7 1700 chip in the Mini.

 

[QuantumBraced]

So based on all the fan-related information posted in the past 2 pages, am I right to conclude that the best way to cool X(2)99 right now would be a Dynatron T318 + Noctua A9x14 mounted on top of it with zipties? And that the new slim Noctua A12x15 would cool worse if mounted on the heatsink and even worse if mounted on the bracket?

 

[Nasp]

Does anyone know if the Corsair Vengeance LED RAM fits in the S4 mini? Newegg link

They are 48.5mm tall and I believe about 5mm sinks into the motherboard connector. I think it should fit, but just want to check with you all.

 

[jeshikat]

am I right to conclude that the best way to cool X(2)99 right now would be a Dynatron T318 + Noctua A9x14 mounted on top of it with zipties? And that the new slim Noctua A12x15 would cool worse if mounted on the heatsink and even worse if mounted on the bracket?

It'd be the R15 for the X299 since it's the Square ILM instead of Narrow. But otherwise yes.

 

[Zero]

While I am waiting for my case to arrive, I was looking for a bit of assistance on the specs. The idea was to go with a RYZEN processor and corresponding motherboard. Listed below are all of the components that I plan on acquiring.

Confirmations and concerns would be greatly appreciated.

Case
S4 Mini

Motherboard
BIOSTAR X370GTN

Processor
AMD RYZEN 7 1700X 8-Core 3.4 GHz (3.8 GHz Turbo) Socket AM4 95W YD170XBCAEWOF

Hard drive
WD Blue 1TB Internal SSD Solid State Drive - SATA 6Gb/s 2.5 Inch - WDS100T1B0A

Ram
Ballistix Sport LT 32GB Kit (16GBx2) DDR4 2400 MT/s (PC4-19200) DIMM 288-Pin BLS2K16G4D240FSC (White)

Graphic card
ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1060 Mini, ZT-P10600A-10L, 6GB GDDR5

Power supply
677765-003 GENUINE HP 19.5V 11.8A 230W
HDPLEX 400W Hi-Fi DC-ATX Power Supply (16V-24V Wide Range Voltage Input)

Cooling
Noctua Low-Profile Quiet CPU Cooler for Intel 115x Based Retail Cooling NH-L9I

Why do you want to go with Ryzen? It can be a good value for the dollar if you're doing workstation stuff (i.e. multithreaded compute like Photoshop and stuff) but if you're looking for gaming performance (as I might deduce on account of your getting a GPU) then Intel will have better single-thread speed and much better performance-per-watt, which means the system can run cooler and quieter.

I would get a 7700k instead of the 1700x, they are $310 new on eBay.

It is $10 more to get that 1TB SSD you want in an M.2 form factor: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LYOKOJI/?tag=theminutiae-20

Regardless of whether you go AMD or Intel, any modern motherboard will have an M.2 slot. I highly recommend going for the M.2 SSD, as then your case won't need the drive bracket, the SATA power connection from the PSU, or the SATA data connection from the motherboard. That frees up a ton of space and makes things much cleaner.

Here's a realtime comparison of Ryzen vs 7700k in gaming:
If you do other side things with very heavy compute like video editing and stuff then Ryzen might make sense, but in building an SFF system, ignore energy efficiency at your own peril.

 

[Sean Crees]

Yea if your just doing gaming, your better off getting the 1600 or 1600x. It's basically the same gaming performance as the R7 chips, but way less money. They basically make the entire Intel Core i5 line obsolete, but if your willing to spend a couple hundred extra dollars, then the 7700k is faster.

I'm planning on putting an R5 1600 in my S4 mini with a Radeon RX 570 from Sapphire.

 

[Davila]

Will it be possible to have an X299 build with viable temps and wattages in the S4 Mini? Or is it a no go?

 

[Raxe]

Will it be possible to have an X299 build with viable temps and wattages in the S4 Mini? Or is it a no go?

Maybe with the thermolab lp53+NF-A12x15 PWM is going to be viable but... such a pretty bad tim in these hedt processors.

 

[jeshikat]

Maybe with the thermolab lp53

The LP53 is only for 115x though.

 

[nix]

Do we have a compatibility list like the ncase m1 does? If we don't, I think it would be helpful.

 

[Curiosity]

Hopefully you don't mind me dropping this off here josh, I got my Customod Mini in and took some pictures to compare it with the S4 Mini.
[S4 #106, Mini #9]

 

[Nasp]

Hopefully you don't mind me dropping this off here josh, I got my Customod Mini in and took some pictures to compare it with the S4 Mini.

I want to like the Custom Mod mini, I do, but all those honeycomb holes to the side and top panels make it look like several large shotgun rounds blew up half the case. But wow is it small!

 

[Broxin]

Hopefully you don't mind me dropping this off here josh, I got my Customod Mini in and took some pictures to compare it with the S4 Mini.
[S4 #106, Mini #9]

Nice. But i dont think a 1080mini could fit into the custommod mini. What model of psu brick is that?
And how is the noise and temperature difference between those two cases?

 

[QuantumBraced]

You can choose from several vent hole patterns. However, as much as I love the CustomMod Mini, and I'd love to see SFF move in that ultra small direction, the quality doesn't match the S4 Mini. It is pretty rough and the manufacturing tolerances aren't perfect. Even if you'd gotten it painted/powder coated, the quality of that is also kind of spotty. In fact, without a paint job like yours actually looks better because it looks intentionally industrial, I like it. They've made a lot of progress from v1 to v2 though and I do love the design, I hope they keep at it. I digress from the topic...

 

[Curiosity]

Nice. But i dont think a 1080mini could fit into the custommod mini. What model of psu brick is that?
And how is the noise and temperature difference between those two cases?

I haven't been able to build in it yet since my GPU is out for rma, and I don't have my camera to take video of the build which I like to do.
I'll post a build log when I do though, keep your eyes peeled.
The 1080/to mini won't fit mine, but you can just ask them to make it longer if you wanted to fit one.

You can choose from several vent hole patterns. However, as much as I love the CustomMod Mini, and I'd love to see SFF move in that ultra small direction, the quality doesn't match the S4 Mini. It is pretty rough and the manufacturing tolerances aren't perfect. Even if you'd gotten it painted/powder coated, the quality of that is also kind of spotty. In fact, without a paint job like yours actually looks better because it looks intentionally industrial, I like it. They've made a lot of progress from v1 to v2 though and I do love the design, I hope they keep at it. I digress from the topic...

I definitely agree. I'm looking into a durable clear coat, the only thing stopping me is the fairly large amount of scratching on the panels.
The tolerances and fit/finish are definitely a far cry from the S4, Ncase and A4.

 

[Craxas]

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