S4 MINI Classic (S4M-C)

[McTeags]

@Nimikins I upgraded from a GTX 1060 to a GTX 1070. I play @1440p 60fps and my top played game recently is Overwatch. I upgraded so I could enjoy stuff like the Witcher 3, but honestly with most games (Overwatch) I play it didn't make much of a difference. Now I'm looking at getting an S4 Mini and going back to a 1060 or even down to a 1050 Ti. If you're deciding between the two I would recommend going with a 1060 and saving yourself some money.

Edit: With the money you save you can just refresh more often. No need to worry about future proofing.

 

[BrainTaste]

Gigabyte uploaded this picture a few hours ago saying "more to come soon" for ITX Ryzen

 

[CubanLegend]

Gigabyte uploaded this picture a few hours ago saying "more to come soon" for ITX Ryzen

dang that rear I/O panel looks so bare it resembles a server board's rear I/O, dang that sucks. Hopefully the higher end Mini-ITX had more stuff

 

[Nimikins]

dang that rear I/O panel looks so bare it resembles a server board's rear I/O, dang that sucks. Hopefully the higher end Mini-ITX had more stuff

I'm ok with this. While I currently use all six USB ports on my pc, I don't see me hooking up my webcam and razer black widow to the s4, which brings me down to three- headset power, mouse, and keyboard. I need optical out for headset and I will have a discrete gpu for monitor.
I DO hope they have colors other than black and red.... because that WONT fit my plan for my S4

Edit- awwww dang. That's a z270 board. Their Facebook just says miniitx coming.

 

[ngriesdo]

This board is ugly as anything but I ordered it to test to see if there is any difference between it or my Asus board. It should be here tomorrow! Oh and a side note I tested with Prime95 for giggles just to see how bad this board really is. The board is now in the S4 but the cpu side is open due to PSU cables sticking out the sides, I tested it and it hit 92c before trying to shut it down and the board completely freaked out and reset twice... I did restart but was slow to do so, I won't be testing that again.

 

[Nimikins]

Guys! S4 mini 213 has found it's way here
It is so light and so beautiful. Josh, this color is amazing (though lighter than I expected from the gallery).
Must resist urge to buy parts...

 

[Kmpkt]

Patience is for the weak. Microcenter or death!

Hopefully I will be the first of many to requote this post. We want a build log!

 

[Nimikins]

Hopefully I will be the first of many to requote this post. We want a build log!

https://smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/s4-mini-213-zen-ocean.1761/

Edit: Sorry for iPhone. I def. DON'T have Josh's pretty photography skills.

 

[Calvin]

dang that rear I/O panel looks so bare it resembles a server board's rear I/O, dang that sucks. Hopefully the higher end Mini-ITX had more stuff

It's just a B350 model, hopefully the X370 is more packed lol.

 

[Nimikins]

It's just a B350 model, hopefully the X370 is more packed lol.

I'm not sure the added cost of the 370 in a mini itx would be worth it. I think the idea is that the x300 is the sweet spot of sff. The case that was posted above says z270 on it, so I'm not sure it's AM4...

 

[CC Ricers]

dang that rear I/O panel looks so bare it resembles a server board's rear I/O, dang that sucks. Hopefully the higher end Mini-ITX had more stuff

That was my beef with their Skylake boards as well. High-end Z170N Wifi having less USB ports than even their H110 ITX variant. Yet, unfortunately the H110 is missing the matte black finish that I so like.

 

[Nimikins]

In the words of my daughter "Shiny"

 

[CubanLegend]

In the words of my daughter "Shiny"

was that a custom powder coated S4? Nice! It resembles the first set of black powder coated ones, but with a more Grey color.

 

[Curiosity]

That was my beef with their Skylake boards as well. High-end Z170N Wifi having less USB ports than even their H110 ITX variant. Yet, unfortunately the H110 is missing the matte black finish that I so like.

I'm honestly considering the asrock Z270M-ITX/ac over the Strix Z270 because the I/O pushes all my buttons.
The dual M.2 is the only thing giving me pause. (maybe the rgb just a little too)
Asrock on top, Asus on the bottom.

Edit:

you lose USB-C and some audio out, but gain 2x usb 3.0, and an extra ethernet jack, and some legacy connections.

 

[Nimikins]

was that a custom powder coated S4? Nice! It resembles the first set of black powder coated ones, but with a more Grey color.

It is a custom powder coat. If you watched the S3-001 video it is the Steel Ocean Josh talked about. It looked much darker in the photos Josh posted, but it really is best seen in person. It runs from a middle grey to a very dark gunmetal depending on the lighting. It also is sparkly in a good and not overdone way. My husband has already threatened to steal it.

 

[LodisKnight]

My S4 Mini is being put to good use... Sorry guys, the new Zelda is just too awesome.

 

[BeerNsoup]

What low profile cooler are those waiting on ryzen itx boards planning to use? I was disappointed the argon 5 wasnt getting an adapter kit, and ive got it in my head the noctua wont work either (maybe im wrong?).

Planning on using the wraith stealth?

 

[ngriesdo]

So I have an update about the Asus z270i mess... I have sent it back to amazon and I am keeping this ugly gigabyte board lol, it really is bad. I did some testing and look at the numbers below. IF you have one of these boards and are getting hot temps on them I strongly recommend taking them back if you can. This is the second board that has done this to me.
ASUS Temps:
BF1 Mutiplayer TDM: 72c
Minecraft Mutiplayer: 57c
H1Z1: 69c
GTA V: 71c
Prime95: 92c
Idle: 39c
Gigabyte Temps:
BF1 Mutiplayer TDM: 57c
Minecraft Mutiplayer: 48c
H1Z1: 60c
GTA V: 58c
Prime95: Not tested yet
Idle: 32c
There have been some major swings in these temps with battlefield being one of the biggest. I don't know if it's just me that got a bad board but 2 in a row like this is fishy. All these test were done on a i7-6700T and a EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC.

 

[Nimikins]

What low profile cooler are those waiting on ryzen itx boards planning to use? I was disappointed the argon 5 wasnt getting an adapter kit, and ive got it in my head the noctua wont work either (maybe im wrong?).

Planning on using the wraith stealth?

I'm not sure the wraith stealth would work. I will look into it. Personally I have access to a CNC shop and a machinist plus I own a 3D printer, so I'm sure I can come up with something.

I'm betting something will come out by the time the itx boards are available.

 

[Curiosity]

All these test were done on a i7-6700T and a EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC.

Can I ask you to do a cinebench R15 run of multi and single core performance?
Maybe a firestrike run if you wouldn't mind?

I'm planning to move to a 6700T soon and am trying to figure out just what to expect performance-wise in the switch from my 3570K.
I get a 147 single core, and 571 for multicore in R15.
Got a 10338 overall and a 7511 physics score (13370 on graphics) with regular firestrike.

3570k@4ghz/1060SC/ 16gb DDR3 2000mhz