GPU Geforce 20 series (RTX) discussion thread (E: 2070 Review unbargo!)

[Thehack]

It'll sell just fine. Gamers are happy to get up 10% for a hefty price. That has always been nvidia game plan. Get them to buy the XX80, milk them again when XX80 ti comes out, and a third time when the titan comes out.

As long as the titan V is prohibitively expensive compared to the 1080 Ti gamers will buy it up. This is a very good release, it'll be a last rush until the 7nm chips next year, and then we can continue to up charge.

And to be honest, nvidia doesn't have to price it competitively since Amd doesn't have a response. Just drop the prices on the old ones a little bit and add this as a higher end solution.

 

[Elerek]

There's finally USB c on a gpu? YES!

I wonder if anyone will ever put a thunderbolt chip on a gpu, especially once pcie 4/5 hits. No gpu will need the full 16 lanes, why not stick thunderbolt 3/usb 3.2 on the card since the port can also be DP.

 

[Necere]

These TDPs aren't going to make life easy for us SFF guys:

 

[tinyitx]

These TDPs aren't going to make life easy for us SFF guys:

One needs to think positively. If one wants an easy life, get a Corsair 1000D and call it a day.

And, those numbers perhaps are PNY's. According to the link below, 2080 is 210W and 2080Ti is 250W. And then there is 2070 which is 'only' 180W. Not too bad at all.
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-rtx-2070-specs-leaked-2304-cores-8gb-gddr6-at-400/

 

[mantide]

Nvidia is out of tricks. Although the USB-C is tempting, I guess I will wait for TSMC 7nm AMD card. The only reason why GTX 10 series outperform AMD Vega so much is that TSMC 16nm is so much better than GF 14nm. In my opinion, Nvidia is more and more like a cancer in the industry. It’s against zeitgeist. You may not believe what I say, but I know I am the speaking the truth.

 

[gunpalcyril]

Dear god, 4352 cuda cores on the 2080ti?! Thats almost double the cores on my 1080, I've been thinking of "sizing up" to matx for dual gpu 3d rendering, but I think I'll just get next gen gpu instead.

 

[rfarmer]

One needs to think positively. If one wants an easy life, get a Corsair 1000D and call it a day.

And, those numbers perhaps are PNY's. According to the link below, 2080 is 210W and 2080Ti is 250W. And then there is 2070 which is 'only' 180W. Not too bad at all.
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-rtx-2070-specs-leaked-2304-cores-8gb-gddr6-at-400/

I really hope that is true. I need an itx card and if the TDP is too high they will either not be available or be terrible at cooling.

 

[loader963]

I’m still hoping these are all photoshop/rumors. Why release an 80 and 80 Ti in the same year, let alone the same day???

Also was there ever a time a new 80 model was weaker at launch then the previous gen Ti?

 

[Beardedswede]

I’m still hoping these are all photoshop/rumors. Why release an 80 and 80 Ti in the same year, let alone the same day???

Also was there ever a time a new 80 model was weaker at launch then the previous gen Ti?

maybe becouse the lifetime of the products will be shorter becouse 7nm will be introduced next year by AMD, and Nvidia cant be to far off what?
Turing was suppost to be 7nm but they pushed it .

 

[TheHig]

This isn’t Femi to Maxwell kind of breakthroughs in efficiency with this release for sure. Adding new tech and such is great but agree that so far not too much to see here for he SFF space.

 

[lhl]

I'd look at it from the perspective that they really want to get RTX into the high-end viz space - the market for render farms, cloud based rendering etc is probably is a pretty huge chunk of new market that is primarily occupied by CPU rendering (until now Octane, Vray, Redshift were the only GPU-accelerated renderers, but now Renderman and Arnold are moving towards taking full advantage of GPUs).

If the 2080/2080Ti are simply bins of bad Quadro chips - it could be simply that they have a lot of higher quality chips and it makes sense to take advantage of the highest margins possible. While they might lose out on some double dipping vs if they staggered their release, the better margins probably make up for it, especially when they don't have to worry about competition from AMD this cycle. I'd expect with the collapse of crypto-mining sales, they'd also want to juice earnings for this quarter as well, and I doubt a lot of 1080Ti owners would go for a 2080 upgrade that didn't significantly outperform, while they would consider a 2080Ti even if were a lot more expensive (that's actually where I am now. I don't *need* to upgrade, but I might be tempted if the 2080Ti is impressive enough).

 

[VegetableStu]

shall we strawpoll the visuals on the cards though? https://www.strawpoll.me/16302741
(images here https://linustechtips.com/main/topi...s-gpu-aib-design-rumor-roundup-and-strawpoll/)

 

[tinyitx]

shall we strawpoll the visuals on the cards though? https://www.strawpoll.me/16302741
(images here https://linustechtips.com/main/topi...s-gpu-aib-design-rumor-roundup-and-strawpoll/)

No RGB for me and I avoid dual fan design. Gigabyte is my pick.

 

[Necere]

Can't say I care for any of them very much. Interesting how the industry seems to have settled on these shroud designs with random angles and facets everywhere. I suppose I should be grateful we've moved away from pictures of dragons, scantily-clad women, and guys with swords.

Of these, the Asus Turbo is probably the least offensive to me (also probably the loudest/hottest).

 

[tinyitx]

I’m still hoping these are all photoshop/rumors. Why release an 80 and 80 Ti in the same year, let alone the same day???
Also was there ever a time a new 80 model was weaker at launch then the previous gen Ti?

One speculation is that this series of 2080/Ti will have a shorter life cycle and so the Ti needs to be released now and not later in order to gain some time as the 7nm cards will come mid to late next year.

 

[tinyitx]

Here might be the first look of the dual fan reference design by Nvidia.
https://www.ithome.com/html/digi/377983.htm

 

[Duality92]

I can't wait to see performances, I predicted way back in April, the whole series, from **30 up to the highest Titan, can't wait to see how close I am to actual performances/configurations.

My predictions were (mind you this was before a lot of leaks) and I just put all the same card as Pascal had (1060 6GB was arguably equivalent to a 1060 Ti to the 1060 3GB). Prediction is approx 20% increase in performance across the board.

GPU Die | AvailableCUs/TotalCUs | CUDA Cores | TMUs | ROPs | Card Name (CUs = Compute Units)
GT102-450 | 48/48 | 5376 | 336 | 96 | Titan Xt
GT102-350 | 44/48 | 4928 | 308 | 88 | 1180 Ti
GT104-400 | 32/32 | 3584 | 224 | 64 | 1180
GT104-300 | 30/32 | 3360 | 210 | 60 | 1170 Ti
GT104-200 | 24/32 | 2688 | 168 | 48 | 1170
GT106-400 | 16/16 | 1792 | 112 | 32 | 1160 Ti
GT106-300 | 14/16 | 1568 | 98 | 28 | 1160
GT107-400 | 10/10 | 1120 | 70 | 20 | 1150 Ti
GT107-300 | 8/10 | 896 | 56 | 16 | 1150
GT108-300 | 5/5 | 560 | 35 | 10 | 1130

 

[loader963]

What time does the announcement start? I’ll be glad to hear the real numbers because I’m still way skeptical of all these rumors flying around.

Edit: less than 45 minutes. Hopefully it has better fruits than the gossip suggests.

 

[rfarmer]

What time does the announcement start? I’ll be glad to hear the real numbers because I’m still way skeptical of all these rumors flying around.

Nvidia's livestream will start at 5 PM BST on Monday, August 20th. This time translates to 6 PM CET.

9am PST for me.

 

[Phuncz]

And, it is interesting that Nvidia is releasing 2080Ti with 2080 instead of 2070 and 2080. I wonder what is the marketing rationale behind.

Usually new products are debuted with the upscale range. We'll find out soon how much the priviledge will cost to own the newest piece of tech.