Production FormD T1 Classic (READ FIRST POST)

[F7IN]

My open air testbed gathers so much dust, literally counting the days till June when we can pre-order at this point

 

[Gyoza.SFF]

For anyone that can understand Mandarin. Not as cinematic as Optimum’s video, but much more informative. There is supposed to be a ‘Part II’ coming, which compares different cooling options, such as top radiator vs. bottom radiator. Credit goes to ‘suming li’ on YouTube and please subscribe if you like his contents. Enjoy!

 

[gwertheim]

For anyone that can understand Mandarin. Not as cinematic as Optimum’s video, but much more informative. There is supposed to be a ‘Part II’ coming, which compares different cooling options, such as top radiator vs. bottom radiator. Credit goes to ‘suming li’ on YouTube and please subscribe if you like his contents. Enjoy!

If all else fails, google translate

 

[UnitScott]

Distro plate question: compatible with a monoblock? (e.g. EK WB monoblock)

Thanks,

 

[Manni]

This is looking exquisite, guys!

Been lurking for a long time now and eagerly anticipating this case.

Have you thought about some other color schemes too for this case? I tried searching but couldn't find much if any.

 

[DrHudacris]

Distro plate question: compatible with a monoblock? (e.g. EK WB monoblock)

Thanks,

I don't see why not. Distroplate will sit in front, and you run the tubes however you need to.

 

[spyda_mayn]

Posting in hopes of getting on the reserve list. Looks amazing!

 

[Navic]

This is looking exquisite, guys!

Been lurking for a long time now and eagerly anticipating this case.

Have you thought about some other color schemes too for this case? I tried searching but couldn't find much if any.

First page, first post, you can see some other color schemes he is intending to look into. Two-tone is definitely coming, a pure silver might be coming, and a pure white version might be coming.

 

[fabio]

So, which iteration do you plan to keep in the end? Is there a particular one you recommend in terms of space efficiency/practicability/performance?

I can say that for sure I will take the pump and reservoir OUT. Just because I have a dead space in my desk, and make everything easier in the inside.

I will try the new VTX pump this week, but for now the D5 was an amazing surprise to me!! Never had one, and now I know why everyone WITH space goes for it.

In terms of radiator size, for my components, the PE is pretty enough, but it's so nice with the XE 60mm to see how the delta under stress stay at around 8C, and 4C in idle! The PE under stress is only 3 degrees warmer (I am in PULL mode only, I think with a push pull the XE will make the difference for sure!).

I try this week as well the SE 28mm, now that I have all the other component fixed and set up, I can evaluate the real difference in temp.

I will love too keep somehow performance/low noise/all panel on!

 

[fabio]

The one i am using is the dc-lt 80, https://www.performance-pcs.com/wat.../alphacool-eisstation-80-dc-lt-reservoir.html, I figured for my first loop it would be a little easier to work with a bigger res so I could bleed the air out easier. Plus, I couldn't find the 40 in stock anywhere and I was already 3-4 weeks waiting for parts.

The one fabio is using is the dc-lt 40, https://www.performance-pcs.com/wat.../alphacool-eisstation-40-dc-lt-reservoir.html.

I'm not sure the dc-lt 80 will fit. I'm in a sliger sm580 so I have quite a bit more room to play with than the T1.

To clarify none of these are necessary if you plan to use the LT 240 just more options and it would make filling slightly easier.

If you really want to go on the SMALLER side, THIS is the tiniest option you have, and still giving you a top port to fill the system.

Alphacool Eisstation DC-LT - Solo Top

The Eisstation DC-LT Solo Top from the Enterprise Solutions series is an extremely compact pump top and is very powerful together with the DC-LT pump. It shows its strengths wherever space is at a premium or where a pump needs to be...

www.aquatuning.us

 

[fabio]

Alphacool DC-LT 2600 Ultra low noise Ceramic - 12V DC

Alphacool DC-LT Keramik 12 Volt Pumpe Low Noise, die Miniausgabe einer Pumpe mit viel Dampf im Kessel! Wasserkühlung im Allgemein ist nicht nur für Bigtower und im Highendbereich zu Hause. Auch Barebones, HTPC oder Desktoprechner...

www.alphacool.com

Alphacool DC-LT 3600 - 12V DC - Pump - Industry bulk

Alphacool DC-LT Keramik 12 Volt Pumpe, die Miniausgabe einer Pumpe, mit viel Dampf im Kessel! Wasserkühlung im Allgemein ist nicht nur für Bigtower und im Highendbereich zu Hause. Auch Barebones, HTPC oder Desktoprechner wollen mit...

www.alphacool.com

Which pump is better? Noise, cooling efficiency. Thanks

Stay with the 2600rpm.

The 3600 is a really older version that they don't put anymore in any of their product.

It's noisier and the theoretical flow it is just a bit higher than the 2600, but really not considerable!!

 

[fabio]

Hopefully no one else has asked this question, but is there a pcie 4.0 compatible riser that will work with this case?

I know nothing really takes advantage of it, but at least on the gigabyte x570 board if you run a Navi card with a riser you need to set the pcie slot to 3.0 instead of auto to avoid some problems. Having a pcie 4.0 riser cable would avoid that step.

YES! Right now you have 2 option:
This of 30cm length:

LINKUP Ultra PCIe 4.0 X16 Riser Cable [RTX3080 x570 B550 RX6800 Tested] Extreme High Speed ITX Vertical Gaming PCI Express Gen4 2020 | Straight Socket {30 cm} 3.0 Gen3 & TT Compatible

New 2020 PCIe 4.0 revision. No BSOD, or WUE / WHEA Error free. More headroom works for overclocked CPUs and GPUs. LINKUP Riser Cables feature technology used in the construction of OCuLink, 8639 U.2, and SAS cables that are tested to reach speeds of 160GB/s for the sum of all x16 channels...

linkup.one

And this, 25cm, super tight fit!

3M™ Twin Axial PCI Express X16 Extender Assemblies | 3M United States

www.3m.com

Be careful, they have problem/interfer with the slim fan below the motherboard with the lower bracket.
The one included goes out straight. All the others should be bent to go up and reach the motherboard connector.
This means that they block the slim fan if placed against the motherboard.
With them+radiator, you have to have the fans against the top panel.

 

[kazuma86]

YES! Right now you have 2 option:
This of 30cm length:

LINKUP Ultra PCIe 4.0 X16 Riser Cable [RTX3080 x570 B550 RX6800 Tested] Extreme High Speed ITX Vertical Gaming PCI Express Gen4 2020 | Straight Socket {30 cm} 3.0 Gen3 & TT Compatible

New 2020 PCIe 4.0 revision. No BSOD, or WUE / WHEA Error free. More headroom works for overclocked CPUs and GPUs. LINKUP Riser Cables feature technology used in the construction of OCuLink, 8639 U.2, and SAS cables that are tested to reach speeds of 160GB/s for the sum of all x16 channels...

linkup.one

And this, 25cm, super tight fit!

3M™ Twin Axial PCI Express X16 Extender Assemblies | 3M United States

www.3m.com

I prefer include in T1, rather must buy again in another store, since my customs in very unique.. i"m okay if i must pay more for PCie 4.0 @Wahaha360

 

[fabio]

I prefer include in T1, rather must buy again in another store, since my customs in very unique.. i"m okay if i must pay more for PCie 4.0 @Wahaha360

I think everything will change when also NVIDIA will release the PCIe 4.0 GPUs.

Right now there is no point to add it, for an increase cost, and 0 performance gain on the GPU side.

The PCIe4 on ITX is only great to increase the lane bandwidth between the CPU and the other components like the NVME, USB/TB, etc, at least IMO!

 

[paulesko]

Alphacool DC-LT 2600 Ultra low noise Ceramic - 12V DC

Alphacool DC-LT Keramik 12 Volt Pumpe Low Noise, die Miniausgabe einer Pumpe mit viel Dampf im Kessel! Wasserkühlung im Allgemein ist nicht nur für Bigtower und im Highendbereich zu Hause. Auch Barebones, HTPC oder Desktoprechner...

www.alphacool.com

Alphacool DC-LT 3600 - 12V DC - Pump - Industry bulk

Alphacool DC-LT Keramik 12 Volt Pumpe, die Miniausgabe einer Pumpe, mit viel Dampf im Kessel! Wasserkühlung im Allgemein ist nicht nur für Bigtower und im Highendbereich zu Hause. Auch Barebones, HTPC oder Desktoprechner wollen mit...

www.alphacool.com

Which pump is better? Noise, cooling efficiency. Thanks

I´ve tried both of them and the 3600 version is noisier (and not a little) even at the same rpm than the 2600 rpm version. The difference is quite noticeable, I would advise not to buy the 3600 version, you would be better trying to fit two 2600 if you can, it will be silent and have enough pressure. Take in mind that alphacool has both cpu and gpu blocks with this pump incorporated, so you can play with all those factors.

 

[Manni]

First page, first post, you can see some other color schemes he is intending to look into. Two-tone is definitely coming, a pure silver might be coming, and a pure white version might be coming.

Well I feel stupid. Thank you!

Pure white would be really neat.

 

[DrHudacris]

I´ve tried both of them and the 3600 version is noisier (and not a little) even at the same rpm than the 2600 rpm version. The difference is quite noticeable, I would advise not to buy the 3600 version, you would be better trying to fit two 2600 if you can, it will be silent and have enough pressure. Take in mind that alphacool has both cpu and gpu blocks with this pump incorporated, so you can play with all those factors.

Hmm this explains the noise in my GPX Pro Solo..it's pretty quiet but not as quiet as I'd hoped. But it's hard to find ultra noise version of DCLT in stock. Has anyone found a good source for them? Of course, I think I'll go DDC route.

 

[milica]

Is it possible to disassemble the LT240 pump and install it on the DC-LT 40, I'm guessing that's the same 2600 pump?

Also is there any way to cover the pump once it's installed on the DC-LT 40?
Looking at this image it shows that the lower part is exposed. I'm worried about possible noise and vibrations.

 

[threestripevida]

Hmm this explains the noise in my GPX Pro Solo..it's pretty quiet but not as quiet as I'd hoped. But it's hard to find ultra noise version of DCLT in stock. Has anyone found a good source for them? Of course, I think I'll go DDC route.

Wahaha mentioned getting a list of people together to send to Alphacool to show interest. I think modmymods sells both the res and pump that @fabio suggests. Josh, who is their warehouse manager, was extremely helpful with me to get some fittings ordered from the supplier and opened up orders for me so I could buy them. I can send him an email and let him know of the interest from people so he can try and order more from Alphacool.

 

[aexeq]

@fabio Do you think I can easily do a setup with CPU (Intel EK Velocity), GPU (EK 1080 TF6), EK 240 Classic, DC-LT Solo, DC-LT 2600, TPV tubing/fittings and 2 of these: Alphacool HF Quick Disconnect TPV , very near the GPU fittings?
My Motherboard of choice will be the Z390i from MSI due to awesome memory OC and strong enough VRM for 8086k @5GHz.
Should I look into low profile RAM, or will a set of Trident Zs be fine with the tubing?
I guess 3 slot GPU mode is required for the quick disconnect to work?
Also, would you say, that custom cables are needed, or are the ones from the SF750 fine?

Thanks again for all the testing you have done so far and will do in the future @fabio !
You are easily one of the most worthwile testers to get the T1 early!