I think we all knew this one would fit in 13.37l but the reference cards can be hard to come by, hopefully some of the AIB cards will follow this trend and keep the cards more compact.
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I think we all knew this one would fit in 13.37l but the reference cards can be hard to come by, hopefully some of the AIB cards will follow this trend and keep the cards more compact.
I think all Aib models of the 7900 xtx are larger than the reference.
Vertical classic layout... What are you doing with the rear IO actually?Just make one while you wait :-)
This is a hacked up Meshlicious with a front mounted 4080 and a Noctua C14S with a top mounted slim 140mm for push/pull and 4 40mm fans set to exhaust. It satisfies my C4 layout until I can get one
Oh yea
. There is a slim displayport 1.4 cable that is connected at the bottom of the videocard and runs out the bottom of the case and is long enough to come out the backside underneath the motherboard rear. I ordered it off of ebay. The motherboard io is still facing out the rear of the case just like as if it was still a stock case.
Here are the compatibility list of RX7900 XT and XTX cards:
Regards
Daniel
| Dimension | C4-SFX 13.37L | C4-SFX 14.7L | |
| AMD RX 7900 XT | L=276 W=113 2.5 Slot | fit | fit |
| AMD RX 7900 XTX | L=287 W=123 2.5 Slot | fit | fit |
| AsRock RX 7900 XTX Taichi 24GB OC | L=345 W=140 3 Slot | not fit | not fit |
| AsRock RX 7900 XTX Phantom Gaming 24GB OC | L=330 W=140 2.8-slot | not fit | fit |
| Asus RX 7900 XTX TUF | L=352.9 W=158.2 3.6 Slot | not fit | not fit |
| Gigabyte AORUS RX 7900 XTX ELITE | L=335 W=137 3.5 Slot | not fit | fit |
| Gigabyte RX 7900 XT GAMING OC | L=331 W=138 2.5 Slot | not fit | fit |
| PowerColor RX 7900 XTX Hellhound | ~ L=318 W=??? 3 Slot | fit | fit |
| PowerColor RX 7900 XTX Red Devil | ~ L=315 W=??? 4 Slot | not fit | fit |
| Sapphire RX 7900 XTX NITRO | ~ L=318 W=??? 3.1 Slot | fit | fit |
| Sapphire RX 7900 XTX Pulse | L=313 W=135 2,7 Slot | fit | fit |
| XFX RX 7900 Merc 310 | ~L=340 W=139 3 Slot | not fit | maybe fit |
Regards
Daniel
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I know a lot of people were hoping for a 13.37l case but it really looks like 14.7l would be the smart move.
14.7L would be my choice for the added versatility and future proofing this trend of more power hungry components.
Aesthetically, my only wish is for a silver anodized top grill for that super sleek mono-color look. It's one of the attributes that made the original silver A4 and Ncase M1 beautiful. Not a fan of how certain cases have all-black options for the stealth look, but the silver version doesn't do the same...I do understand 1 of the major reasons why: it's more cost-effective to manufacture 1 less SKU. Still, I would love if you can bring back the all-silver case aesthetic.
Aesthetically, my only wish is for a silver anodized top grill for that super sleek mono-color look. It's one of the attributes that made the original silver A4 and Ncase M1 beautiful. Not a fan of how certain cases have all-black options for the stealth look, but the silver version doesn't do the same...I do understand 1 of the major reasons why: it's more cost-effective to manufacture 1 less SKU. Still, I would love if you can bring back the all-silver case aesthetic.
How exactly does the RED DEVIL fit into the 14.7L case if it takes up 4 slots? I thought the case had only room for 3,75 slot graphics cards.
I might be delusional here, but considering those cards are extremely niche products (not only due to their price but also because Nvidia sill outsells AMD by a sizeable margin), I'd imagine the choice for the bigger option isn't that obvious (this is a SFF case after all. People care about size, and they're probably also knowledgeable or present a certain degree of interest when it comes to hardware components and compatibility, right? Or maybe not, and I'm just being too disingenuous with this train of thought ).
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There has been multiple examples of people being able to fit even a 4090 in the A4-H2O and it running at adequate numbers including my own. The beefy cooler in the 4090 allows it to run relatively cool compared to Nvidia 3000 series cards so I cannot see how reason why a 4080, which consumes LESS power than the 4090, cannot be used. I have used my 4090 both at stock AND now with an 80% PL (while waiting to acquire the ASUS Loki 1000W SFX-L). It took me less than a few minutes of wiggling to get this card into the case.
The whole point of the opening on the GPU side of the A4-H2O is to be able to use up all of the available space to mount large 2.5-3 slots cards. What are you talking about? lol....
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Ohhh I see, thought you managed to rotate the motherboard 90 deg as well and weren't using a riser cable anymore.Oh yea
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Also just to say my piece on the volume debate: my problem with 14.7 L is that it steps on the toes of M1 Evo. Of course it's up to Dan whether he wants to directly compete or now. But point being, as a consumer, I obviously don't want to see two functionally identical cases on the market.
No, actually the motherboard is in the same orientation it would be in for any other Mesh. I flipped the rear case panel so the morherboard is pushed back further in the case and now at the bottom of the case. It has a Thermaltake 300mm riser to connect to the 4080.
My Strix RTX 3080 uses exactly all the available space in the H2O, so I don't see how any card would have a beefier air cooler than that - at least not by a noticeable margin. With this amount of used space (and therefore cooler beefyness), it is not able to get rid of its 370w in a silent manner.
What 4090 did you use? Which AiO do you use?
For me, getting a proper tube routing was nearly impossible with both EK and Phanteks AiOs while the 3080 was installed...
I'm talking about how bad of an idea it is to actually use up all the GPU space in an A4-H2O, as building experience and noise levels will be subpar.
The C4-SFX manual is ready!
Please review it and let me know if you are happy with the color shema and plz let me know if there are any mistakes:
Link: https://dan-cases.com/downloads/c4sfx_manual1.0.pdf
Regards
Daniel
Please review it and let me know if you are happy with the color shema and plz let me know if there are any mistakes:
Link: https://dan-cases.com/downloads/c4sfx_manual1.0.pdf
Regards
Daniel
Looks clean, I like the soft purple colour scheme
- I would prefer the page numbering to be "1 / 42" etc instead of just "1"
- on page 5, the text in the purple box is not centered correctly (no top-bottom-centering if you understand)
- page 6: "empfohlene Luftkühlung Konfiguration" should be "empfohlene Luftkühlungs-Konfiguration"
- you could also add small titles for each step of the mounting procedure, e.g. "installing Motherboard IO shield" or "2.5 inch SSD installation (optional step)" (this is actually done with the "AiO installation" parts of the manual)
- page 33 does not clearly state the up- and downsides of removing this part. Personally, I don't get it. Is this the FE GPU air duct? Under which circumstances should I remove this said part or not?
- page 37: in english it's "case feet", not "case feets" and german would be "Gehäusefüße"
- page 37: "PCIe Slotblende" -> "PCIe-Slotblenden"
- page 37: "Grafikkarten Slotabdeckung" -> "Grafikkarten-Slotabdeckung"
- page 38: "www.dan-cases-com" -> "www.dan-cases.com"
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One of the least-trivial elements of a tight SFF build is the selection of properly fitting components. I know there is a compatibility list of components on the website, but why not reiterate this information in the manual? When depicting the fans, CPU cooler, AIO, and even the GPU assembling into the C4, use that page to illustrate the maximum allowed dimensions of each.
