DAN C4-SFX

[Oggie]

Any downside to using sfx-l over sfx PSU in the case, decent sfx PSUs are so hard to find at the moment.

 

[dondan]

@Curetia It will not fit

 

[Tesserae]

Are any retailers doing preorders? I'd like to get my hands on one as soon as possible. My nitro 7900xtx does not fit my current case but looks like it will be right at home in a c4

Currently not allowed.

 

[Curetia]

Thx, do you have any suggestions for using this slot or is there no problem with heat on the M2 SSD?

 

[wertzius]

@Curetia Just get a power saving SSD - not a top of the line SSD for the back slot. Something like a P31 gold. Most power efficient SSD - often recommended for laptops and tight spaces. You won't notice a difference anyway and still can use a PCIe 4.0 on the front for OS and AAA titles.
P41 Platinum would be the PCIe 4.0 version.

 

[Dampfbox]

Something like a P31 gold.

These SK Hynix SSDs are hard to get (or absurdly expensive) in Germany - he could just go with a Samsung 980 non-pro for half the price...

 

[dondan]

Currently not allowed.

Allowed for all resellers with an offical placed order while the container is in transit. Not allowed for resllers that not have orders in the pipeline!

Thx, do you have any suggestions for using this slot or is there no problem with heat on the M2 SSD?

I have no problems with my Samsung SSD 980

 

[Oggie]

@dondan will the stock numbers be high, I'm looking to order from OCUK.

 

[Chippunk]

@m4nii
Would you be so kind to measure the exact thickness of the alphacool block + pcb + backplate? Iam not sure about the phanteks slim 140s since the reviews are somewhat horrible and hoping to fit 25 mm fans with the slim high perfomance alphacool rad while still maintaining a gap for the air to actually reach the fans

 

[tinyitx]

Can you share your analyse so far?

Sorry for the rather late response as I really have not done much comparison. One reason is that there is very little info of the M1EVO and C4-SFX has only been reviewed by one website.

Anyway, what I have now is:-

1. Z13 14.6L 340x170x255 (14.6L), 138mm cooler, 315mm GPU
2. Acat x2 328x164x264 (14.2L), 138mm cooler, 314mm GPU

3. M1EVO 366x160x256 (14.99L) , 135mm cooler, 360mm GPU
4. C4-SFX 350x166x274 (14.7L), 145mm cooler, 336mm GPU


1 and 2 are traditional layout.
3 and 4 have inverted layout.

1. COOJ Z13
pros
‧screwless CNC all aluminium unibody enclosure (ie no joint/gap due to side panels)
‧v2 has improved upon v1
‧material and construction quality is probably best in this list.
‧USD 232 (Taobao price) + shipping is cheap as I reside in China
‧max 6 fans supported

cons
‧not max compatibility with longer GPUs
‧max GPU thickness is 65mm
[Edited on 2023-05-11] bad customer service, (1) breaking promised dates of availability and (2) not replying to Taobao/QQ messages. This could be a real deal breaker! How unfortunate!

Ref video review:-


2. Acat x2
pros
‧USD 188 (Taobao price) + shipping is cheap to me in China
‧max 4 fans
‧CNC enclosure with no visible external screws

cons
‧PSU connection uses uncommon plug
‧not max compatibility with longer GPUs
‧max GPU thickness is 65mm

Ref video review:-

万年果粉装机初体验｜万能小钢炮！Acat X2 ITX机箱真能塞_哔哩哔哩_bilibili

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www.bilibili.com

【ITX】矿难没等到 忍不住换了个机箱——ACAT X2_哔哩哔哩_bilibili

同类视频：这台‘银·风K77’让我装三千遍都不会腻 BV1aE411y7B7水冷快乐盒L装机案例 BV1EE411j7rC因为机箱工差 我无奈延长交付时间——老李R1S BV1Ga4y1i7Jf为了省钱上魔龙 只好Z270魔改上九代了 BV11z4y197Fe符合这些条件3700X也能用原装散热器 BV1N5411e7RF下压应对十代10700的最佳机箱——G-A4L改版 BV14Z4y1u7Rk, 视频播放量 18199、弹幕量 5、点赞数 138、投硬币枚数 31、收藏人数 65、转发人数 14, 视频作者 浮点工作室, 作者简介...

www.bilibili.com

3. NCase M1EVO
pros
‧longest GPU
‧Price starts at USD 200, lower than the 2 above. However, the key word is ''starts'', which means the price will go up with options/accessories/configurations. No details yet. Probably the cheapest of all 4.

cons
(Really cannot say much as this case is least known among the four.)

4. Dan C4-SFX
pros
‧tallest air cooler 145mm
‧USD 220
‧5 fans

cons
‧one minor concern is the fitting, particularly the side panels onto the main body. From various pics and OT's review, I notice the side panels seem to 'bulge' a tiny bit at the mid section, instead of totally flushed. See pic below for example.
‧have to order from Newegg and not sure about the shipping cost


Review video:-
Optimium Tech



I will build 1 system for a family member and then most likely another one for myself.
These 2 builds will both be ''all-air-cooling'' builds and so I have not considered very much the watercooling capability of the cases.
The air cooler in mind is Thermalright Silver Soul 135 which can be fitted into all these 4 cases.

I reckon, if one wants max compatibility+highest end components+ max out every single c internal volume, 3 and 4 might be better?

So far, I am thinking I will buy one between 1 and 2, and another case between 3 and 4.

 

[dondan]

@tinyitx OptimumTech did not route the 12vhpwr careful enough so it pushed hard against the side panel.


Here is how it looks like correct:

 

[AHMO]

@dondan you used the officall unsleeved 12VHPWR cable from corsair, right?

They are also selling a premium sleeved one. Will the premium sleeved one work as good as the unsleeved one you used in your built without bending the side panel?

 

[Dampfbox]

Will the premium sleeved one work as good as the unsleeved one you used in your built without bending the side panel?

I used the "Premium Sleeved" one in an A4-H2O + RTX4070 ti and it did not feel like it would put a lot a force on the panel it is pressed against. However, in the A4-H2O it only pushes against the bottom panel, which is screwed in.

Still I'd say it did bend pretty nicely. I have no comparison to the unsleeved version though, since that was not available back then

 

[tinyitx]

@tinyitx OptimumTech did not route the 12vhpwr careful enough so it pushed hard against the side panel.


Here is how it looks like correct:

Good to know! Excellent!

 

[m4nii]

@m4nii
Would you be so kind to measure the exact thickness of the alphacool block + pcb + backplate? Iam not sure about the phanteks slim 140s since the reviews are somewhat horrible and hoping to fit 25 mm fans with the slim high perfomance alphacool rad while still maintaining a gap for the air to actually reach the fans

Hi, the overall thickness is 22mm, but the in/outlet ports are slightly wider than the package, which adds another 1-2mm on the rear side. (I'm sorry but i have no exact measuring tool). So its ~24mm at max at its thickest position.

 

[Chippunk]

Hi, the overall thickness is 22mm, but the in/outlet ports are slightly wider than the package, which adds another 1-2mm on the rear side. (I'm sorry but i have no exact measuring tool). So its ~24mm at max at its thickest position.

Thanks a lot!

 

[Kundahli]

@dondan: I'm curious about the 336mm/340mm GPU length restriction - is this limited by the top I/O and power button or a hard stop from the chassis structure?

If the former, would removing the power button and USB connections allow slightly longer cards to fit, for example the Gigabyte 4080 Eagle which comes in at 342mm?

Thanks!

 

[dondan]

Yes it does come frome the top I/O.

The Eagle will not fit with 150mm the height is too much and also the length of 342 will not fit.

 

[galacticviking]

Hi Dan,

Could you confirm that the MSI GAMING TRIO 4090 fits in the C4-SFX? The 4080 version (337 x 140 x 67 mm) is not the same size as the 4090 (337 x 140 x 77 mm).

Thanks you

@dondan I just wanted to follow up on this, thank you.

 

[midefix]

Hello,
does anyone know the final maximum possible width of the GPU?
I would like to use a 4090FE with waterblock. I think only those with the rear connector will work.

@dondan Hey, could you provide an STL file of the inner structure? Then we could use Fusion 360 or similar to better plan our builds. Especially for custom loops this would be very interesting.

Mod edit : merged you two posts