DAN A4-SFX v4.1

Dawelio

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on dan a4 case v4.1 riser cable is silver and not transparent,
I have never even seen any trasparent cables,
I am not sure it is even possible, even fiber glass cables are not transparent.

also, this one "LINKUP - Ultra PCIe 4.0 X16 Riser Cable 25cm" works well

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Well I meant silver, don't know where I got transparent from :p

how can you figure out what fits? I'm not sure what RAM I can buy. Can you give me recommendations? Best, great, and good? Assume I would use the 645LT.

I wish it was obvious. I've looked at the first page and the website.

Hands down, if you're seriously planning on using the 645LT, get the Corsair Vengeance LPX or any low profile memory. They will help a lot with the tubing clearance.
 

floodcf

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Hi guys, i just bought an A4 V2, my conf. is Ryzen 3600x cooled with a noctua NH-L9A, Asus B450-i and an Asus Strix 1080 i have also 2 Noctua NF-A9x14 should i put them at the bottom of the case as exhaust or intake ?
 

x111

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Hi guys, i just bought an A4 V2, my conf. is Ryzen 3600x cooled with a noctua NH-L9A, Asus B450-i and an Asus Strix 1080 i have also 2 Noctua NF-A9x14 should i put them at the bottom of the case as exhaust or intake ?

I run "3900x" with AIO on "ASUS ROG STRIX X570-I GAMING" with "PowerColor Red Dragon Radeon Rx 5700 Xt"
and I put 2 "Noctua NF-A9x14 2.52W" on the bottom and one "Noctua NF-A9x14 2.52W" on the side facing cpu.

so far I have solid temperature fluctuation between 40-50C on almost idle with 1.35v and 4.3ghz on cpu.
and motherboard is solid 40C.

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swaggywaggy

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Well I went ahead with the deal as it was quite a good offer that I'd regret passing up.

After some clearer communication with the seller, it appears that all that's missing is the side panel clips, which I can 3D print and some screws for the side panel.

Does anybody know the exact screw so I can get hold of some?

I'll report back once the case arrives.

Any tips on removing a case badge without damaging the paint work?
 

element72

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CPU: 9700k
CPU Cooler: 645LT
Mobo: Asrock Z390 Phantom Gaming ITX/ac
RAM: Gskill 3200 Trident Z
GPU: EVGA 2080ti XC
PSU: Corsair 750W Platium
Cables: Pslate
I noticed the trident z RAM. I have those in my mid-ATX case. But it looks like the heatsinks are missing from the RAM. Did you remove them to clear the tubing? I would appreciate it if anyone can answer this as well. Thank you!

Edit: I just looked through this thread. Seems like a few ppl have used trident Z with 645LT, no problem. They didn't mention removing the heatsink...
 
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floodcf

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I run "3900x" with AIO on "ASUS ROG STRIX X570-I GAMING" with "PowerColor Red Dragon Radeon Rx 5700 Xt"
and I put 2 "Noctua NF-A9x14 2.52W" on the bottom and one "Noctua NF-A9x14 2.52W" on the side facing cpu.

so far I have solid temperature fluctuation between 40-50C on almost idle with 1.35v and 4.3ghz on cpu.
and motherboard is solid 40C.

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You put the noctua on the bottom as intake or exhaust? Cause i read on reddit that in Liquid cooled cpu is better as intake and in air cooled cpu as exhaust in the A4, but i need more opinion before build this!
P.s. Sorry for my bad english :D
 

element72

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Regarding this question...I've worked during the last few weeks a lot inside the DAN A4 together with the Asetek 645LT.
...and during my RAM Testing I've also was able to use Trident Z (44mm height) and Patriot Viper Steel Series (also 44mm in height) inside the DAN A4
and route the tubing of the Asetek 645LT over the RAM (YES: OVER!)...it was tight but there was a comfortable amout of room so the pannel could close
without squishing anything together. I was even able to remove the RAM without a ful disassembly...helped me out a lot during the tests! :D
The last time I had a 545LC it was not possible, but as the tubing of the 645LT has more lenght and is perhabs some mm thinner (?) it fits just perfectly.
You just have to route the tubing like I've did so you don't end up with to tight squished bends or to much tubing sticking out.
So there is no need to route the tubes somewhere around the RAM! :) Hope that info helps some of you out!
I feel like the top of the ram could cut through the tubing over time. I found pics of people routing it around the Trident Z.
 

Dawelio

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Hi guys, i just bought an A4 V2, my conf. is Ryzen 3600x cooled with a noctua NH-L9A, Asus B450-i and an Asus Strix 1080 i have also 2 Noctua NF-A9x14 should i put them at the bottom of the case as exhaust or intake ?

Unfortunately the V2 only has a spot for one fan, which is at the front, under the PSU. It is only the V4 and newer that has a fan mount under the motherboard.
 

thelaughingman

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Hi guys, i just bought an A4 V2, my conf. is Ryzen 3600x cooled with a noctua NH-L9A, Asus B450-i and an Asus Strix 1080 i have also 2 Noctua NF-A9x14 should i put them at the bottom of the case as exhaust or intake ?

exhaust - it will help GPU temps since your card is open air style
 

x111

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You put the noctua on the bottom as intake or exhaust? Cause i read on reddit that in Liquid cooled cpu is better as intake and in air cooled cpu as exhaust in the A4, but i need more opinion before build this!
P.s. Sorry for my bad english :D

all fans work as intake,
and exhaust is on top part since hot air tends to go up.


exhaust - it will help GPU temps since your card is open air style

cpu has number one priority,
also gpu can get some extra fresh air from bottom fan.

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floodcf

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Ok i see that i can only mount one fan under the psu, i have really good temp on the gpu around 75C in full load but the cpu have temp around 60C in idle and 87-88C in full load any suggestions for don't compromise my performance? In the next days i will print the fan duct but i think is not enough alone!
 

daddelbud

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Unfortunately the V2 only has a spot for one fan, which is at the front, under the PSU. It is only the V4 and newer that has a fan mount under the motherboard.
I think I've seen some examples of the v2 where there was a fan below. I guess the space is there, but no holes?
Black strips might work.
 

Dawelio

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I think I've seen some examples of the v2 where there was a fan below. I guess the space is there, but no holes?
Black strips might work.

True, there are ventilation holes in the bottom. Only no holes to mount the fan into.

Sure, that might work, if they are very thin. Remember, every mm literally counts in this case (no pun intended).

And that bottom fan doesn't do all that much in reality, in terms of cooling. A few degress at maximum.
 

Dawelio

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Corsair also has SF750 if you can find it. Otherwise you might be able to find an Silverstone SFX PSU as well.
 

Thanakun

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can anyone point me to a store thats selling custom slim psu cables, cant seem to find them anywhere except pslate, and he hasnt opened his store for over a year now.
 

Dawelio

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can anyone point me to a store thats selling custom slim psu cables, cant seem to find them anywhere except pslate, and he hasnt opened his store for over a year now.

You're right, PS Slate is basically THE store to go to.

And no, you're wrong. He did open his store on April 20th, for a limited time due to the ongoing pandemic.

I know, becuase I purchased a few cables from him and can highly recommend him. His cables are perfect for the Dan A4 SFX, since they are specifically made for the case.
 

x111

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Ok i see that i can only mount one fan under the psu, i have really good temp on the gpu around 75C in full load but the cpu have temp around 60C in idle and 87-88C in full load any suggestions for don't compromise my performance? In the next days i will print the fan duct but i think is not enough alone!

what hardware are you using again ?
those temperatures are dangerously high.

also, try to tune / adjust fan speed,
and the best solution is to put 120mm fans under the case as well as on the sides and turn them on when on full load.

this way I keep my amd 3900x and rx5700xt under 50-60C on the full continuous load.

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i can't seem to get sf600. any alternatives that should work? planning to use 2070 super and asetek 645LT.

I would strongly suggest to find corsair sf750, it has plenty of power and very good quality cables with almost perfect length to get everywhere around nicely,
just remember to manage them around separately one by one individual wire,
it took me hours to put everything neatly.

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I have a 3600x cooled by a noctua NH L9A with an asus strix gtx 1080 the strange thing is that the GPU never exceeds 70 degrees while the CPU even in idle has very high temperatures. I am aware that in mini itx cases the temperatures with these configurations are not low, but the CPU seems to me really exaggerated.

You should make sure that you applied a right amount of good thermal paste.

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What are you talking about? Those temperatures aren't dangerously high at all. 75C with a 1080 inside the Dan A4 is rather good, I have a 2080 that gets around 85 degress while gaming. Keeping in mind that this is one of the smallest cases on the market and doesn't exactly have any airflow at all.

And the users 3600X has a max temperature of 95 C, and if his CPU is doing 60C during idle and around 88C during load, it isn't very good, but it's not thermal throttling either. Especially considering he's using the Noctua NH-L9a, which isn't the best cooler.
And seeing as I bet the person hasn't manually tuned their CPU, I bet the user is running auto voltages, which are very high and therefore make the CPU run a lot hotter.

So no, those aren't "dangerously high" temperatures. I'd respectfully and kindly advise you to be a bit mindful of your words in the future, as you may not know how the other person might take them.
They might be so scared to even turn on their PC because of it (I used to be that person).

Regarding your own system, what exactly do you mean by "full continous load"? Are we talking about rendering? Gaming? What kind of game and at what resolution?... There are too many variables in a system to just say that your system has a specific temperature, since everyones system is unique and no two systems will perform exactly the same.

Why should the person put a 120mm fans under the case and on the sides?... If the person would undervolt their CPU, they don't need any extra fans and their temperatures will be better.

How do I know this? Cause this is what I did to my 3700X and 2080, which is using the Asetek 645LT and it never surpassed 90C during Aida64 Extreme for over 18 hours continous load. 90C is high yes, but not surpassing the 95C max temp. And keeping in mind that Aida64 Extreme is basically the absolute worst test you can put your CPU through. It literally pushes your CPU balls to the walls, the worst case scenario possible.

So having 89C for continous 18 hours of that stress test, it passed. And during full gaming load, my CPU is around 65C. Keeping in mind that at the end of the day, in this computer case, all cooling systems are extremely limited and high temps are unforunately not to our favour.

Lastly, I agree with you on the SF750 PSU. But the included cables, while they will get the job done, they are far from perfect. They are extremely long and will take up A LOT of space inside the A4 SFX. Getting custom cables helps immensely. I am very happy that I got custom ones, as they are just the correct lengths for this case and now my case barely has any cables at all.

Oh and by the way, please don't take this post as personal or like I'm attacking you. I'm just trying to shed a different perspective regarding your post, in order to hopefully give the user a bigger picture and understanding for his system, temperatures and ways to improve. Nothing else :)

over 90C on cpu is a critical number,
anything over 75 is on a danger side and you should do something about it in order to reduce it unless you care about a healthy life of your hardware.
Regarding your system I would definitely bring significant changes to your cooling setup.

as you can see here on the official place it clearly said maximum 95C !!
"https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-9-3900x"

even asus motherboad software state that 75C on your cpu is critical !!

From my personal experience, it is possible to keep your system in dan a4 case under 50-60C on the full load.
The only weird part of amd 3900x is that it gives a few seconds temp jump and than normalises to 50-60C
By full load for me is pushing over 400fps at 1080p in csgo and using 240hz monitor.
- 3900x is set to 1.35v and 4.3ghz.
- "Rx 5700 Xt" is set to 1890mhz "vram".
- 92mm fans set on 50% power from 0C.

and on idle it shows me
40-50C on cpu, gpu, motherboard, ssd.

Keep your system cool !!

also, do not forget to get proper 2.52W 92mm fans and not that 1W trash.
:)

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