Motherboard ASRock X370 Gaming-ITX/ac and AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac

TheHig

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When I use F stream the AB350 Gaming ITX temps look alot better ...35C on MB instead of reported 120 through HWNFO or the t20 is F ??

It also shows correct temp for 1600X

Kenny

I will give F Stream a go this evening and see what it reports.TY.

EDIT: F Stream looking good. This is about 15 mins of up time and I have very good ambient here in my basement. Like 21C at the moment.

 
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Ricdeau

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Is there any difference between the BIOS features for the B350 and X370? From what I understand the X370 has a better wireless adapter and PCI bifurcation, but is there any other differences?

I'm sending my Gigabyte board back due to some issues coupled with Gigabyte's own lack of response.
 
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Hifihedgehog

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Is there any difference between the BIOS features for the B350 and X370? From what I understand the X370 has a better wireless adapter and PCI bifurcation, but is there any other differences?

I'm sending my Gigabyte board back due to some issues coupled with Gigabyte's own lack of response.
EDIT: The BIOS options themselves are completely identical.
 
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Are you sure XFR isn't enabled on B350 ? Because I'm seeing reports that it does work on X370 and B350, just not on A320. XFR is mainly a CPU feature, not a chipset feature. For example: XFR is enabled for the Ryzen 7 1700X and 1800X, but not the Ryzen 7 1700.
 
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carbonitetoast

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"To be exact, the X370 doubles the XFR improvement over the B350."

Source? I have never seen anything saying the B350 does not support the XFR boost. As Phuncz said, this is a CPU feature and nothing to do with the chipset. The XFR on the X CPUs (1700X, 1800X, etc) is 100MHz vs 50MHz on the non-X CPUs (1700, 1600, etc.).
 
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Source? I have never seen anything saying the B350 does not support the XFR boost. As Phuncz said, this is a CPU feature and nothing to do with the chipset. The XFR on the X CPUs (1700X, 1800X, etc) is 100MHz vs 50MHz on the non-X CPUs (1700, 1600, etc.).
I wasn't positive but it then sounds like they are just referring to the X processors and its XFR independent of the chipset even though they refer to both simultaneously in the chart I was referring. Thanks for the clarification. Comments edited to avoid confusion.

One point of clarification: the Ryzen 7 1700 does in fact have XFR, half that of the X processors:
https://www.pcper.com/news/Processors/PSA-AMD-XFR-Enabled-All-Ryzen-CPUs-X-SKUs-Have-Wider-Range
 
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djcostcosamples

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Does the CMOS clear after x number of attempted POSTs? That CMOS jumper is gonna be really hard to get to with a long graphics card in the way..
 

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If anyone is trying to use custom pstate settings I was only able to get them to work after I created 3 custom states (p0,p1,p2)

Does the CMOS clear after x number of attempted POSTs? That CMOS jumper is gonna be really hard to get to with a long graphics card in the way..

I haven't noticed this behavior yet. I think you can wire it up to the reset button if you want something more convenient.
Edit: nevermind, system wont boot without the jumper in place.
 
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kenrico

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Are you sure XFR isn't enabled on B350 ? Because I'm seeing reports that it does work on X370 and B350, just not on A320. XFR is mainly a CPU feature, not a chipset feature. For example: XFR is enabled for the Ryzen 7 1700X and 1800X, but not the Ryzen 7 1700.

Pretty sure I was getting a XFR lift ..when running stock 1600X - Ryzen master and CPU ID was showing 3700 under load and when I did Hyper Pi 32m with a single core it was pinging between 4000 and 4100 as reported speed.

Am loving this little system ..better than 7600k performance and my hard costs for the upgrade is less than my buddy paid for his AIO and PS :)

Kenny
 

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I have 2 questions regarding AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac, that also everyone wants to know:

1. will you be able to overclock Ryzen 1700 to 3.5GHz without any problems, using Noctua NH-D15S CPU cooler

2. will you be able to use G.SKILL 3200MHz 2x16GB F4-3200C16D-32GTZA at its 3200MHz frequency without any problems?
 

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1. With the 1700, you can expect to hit around 3.8-3.9GHz with ease. Managing the heat with that cooler won't be an issue either.
2. The 2x16GB C16 kit may struggle to hit 3200MHz (stress on the word "may" as 1.0.0.6/1.0.0.6a is still a pretty new bios). In the past, users that have successfully booted to Windows with 2x16GB kits at 3200MHz reported errors in Prime95/Aida64. However, it seems to be getting better with each BIOS update so your mileage may vary.

The C14 kits (which are more common in 2x8GB) shouldn't have that issue. There is a 2x16GB C14 kit (Samsung B-Die too) but it's considerably more expensive and even then hitting 3200MHz might be tough (the reviewers are showing signs of success on the AM4 platform though).

If all else fails, you could also try hitting 3200MHz with a 3600MHz kit as it will allow for tighter memory timings (RGB, White).

Edits: Tired, it's 4am. Not thinking well, hah.
 
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... i like to ....... bifurcate :) XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD



Only problem is ... SLI doesn't work :( doesn't come up in the nVidia control panel :(
I'm using the X370 board and amerirack riser.

Good work !

As discussed on [H] Forum, the same issue has been reported on Asrock X99 ITX board.
Doesn't seem chipset related.
Gamers will have to wait for DX12 games to support multi GPU.
 
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Tilltech

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The C14 kits (which are more common in 2x8GB) shouldn't have that issue. There is a 2x16GB C14 kit (Samsung B-Die too) but it's considerably more expensive and even then hitting 3200MHz might be tough (the reviewers are showing signs of success on the AM4 platform though).

Is the latency between 16 and 14 significant?
For gaming, rendering and modeling in Maya, etc.

You are right, they are a lot more expensive for the same capacity - Define C's worth a difference. That's a huge difference in pricing.