Motherboard ASRock X370 Gaming-ITX/ac and AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac

[juvenchan]

How would I know what timing and speed to set for my ram kit? Does the numbers xx-xx-xx-xx on the sticker on the ram helps?

 

[greyhamism]

How would I know what timing and speed to set for my ram kit? Does the numbers xx-xx-xx-xx on the sticker on the ram helps?

If you know what speed your ram doesn't boot at, id start from the step below that.

Once you find the speed your system will boot at, then start stress testing.

If you get crashes/blue screens, drop you ram to the next level and repeat until you can both boot and run intensive programs.

Personally if i'd paid for a fast kit of ram that ended up not working as advertised id either try to get a refund, or sell it on second hand and source a kit with better ryzen compatibility.

 

[BrotherStein]

PCB isn't going into the extender? I don't think so, I have tested on other graphics card, functioning the same way (Correct me if I'm wrong in understanding what PCB is)

Do I like the case? Absolutely, just a bit time consuming when taking parts in & out, but i guess most ITXs are like that.. haha

Gotcha, yeah if you tested on other cards then it's the extender. Yeah, building in the case is a challenge, but well worth it!

Sorry everyone for not replying sooner. @juvenchan, I sent you a message offering to replace your PCIe extender if it's not working. I also offered to send you a new button if you discovered the switch was bad. After reading your messages, it does seem like the extender is the problem. I had a few extras for just such an occasion so let me know what you'd like to do and I can ship one out to you ASAP.

You're good @grsychckn! I figured he just got a dud or something. In his video as soon as he pulled the GPU out of the case (still attached to the extender), it started working. Very weird!

 

[juvenchan]

If you know what speed your ram doesn't boot at, id start from the step below that.

Once you find the speed your system will boot at, then start stress testing.

If you get crashes/blue screens, drop you ram to the next level and repeat until you can both boot and run intensive programs.

Personally if i'd paid for a fast kit of ram that ended up not working as advertised id either try to get a refund, or sell it on second hand and source a kit with better ryzen compatibility.

My kit set is stated 3000mhz, that means i should be able to run at 2933 without issue? what timings should i set? (hynix chips)

 

[juvenchan]

Gotcha, yeah if you tested on other cards then it's the extender. Yeah, building in the case is a challenge, but well worth it!



You're good @grsychckn! I figured he just got a dud or something. In his video as soon as he pulled the GPU out of the case (still attached to the extender), it started working. Very weird!

It has been running great for 2 day straight now with the GPU plug directly into my motherboard.
I believe the broken part on the extender should be the 180degree twist area.

 

[ChinStrap]

I'm using G.SKILL Ripjaws V F4-3200C14D-16GVR @ XMP setting w/o issue.

 

[juvenchan]

I'm using G.SKILL Ripjaws V F4-3200C14D-16GVR @ XMP setting w/o issue.

Mine is SKILL Ripjaws V DDR4 3000 F4-3000C15D-16GVKB, may I ask how you set up on the BIOS (timing) ?

 

[Phuncz]

Mine is SKILL Ripjaws V DDR4 3000 F4-3000C15D-16GVKB, may I ask how you set up on the BIOS (timing) ?

Those are DDR4-3000 spec RAM modules with CAS Latency of 15, meaning they're SK Hynix chips, you should aim for DDR4-2933 spec but not expect to achieve it with 100% success rate. I've seen some people only getting DDR4-2666 with those SK-Hynix chips. ChinStrap has DDR4-3200 spec RAM modules with CAS Latency of 14, meaning they're Samsung B-die chips, able to achieve the DDR4-3200 spec without problem in most cases.

From another X370 thead:

Mind you, DDR4-3200 and higher is only possible on RAM modules that are using Samsung's B-die chips. I've read only a few (out of hundreds) of users that managed DDR4-3200 with SK-Hynix chips. One can often spot these as they generally have CAS latencies of 14ns for DDR4-3200 spec and up, while SK-Hynix' current chips sit at 16ns or above.

The FlareX set you have happens to be using those Samsung B-dies, but my Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 doesn't even run stably at DDR4-3066 spec on either my ASRock AB350-ITX/ac or Asus Prime X370-Pro. Chipset doesn't really matter it seems what overclock you can achieve on the memory, BIOS and CPU do.

 

[ChinStrap]

Mine is SKILL Ripjaws V DDR4 3000 F4-3000C15D-16GVKB, may I ask how you set up on the BIOS (timing) ?

Those are DDR4-3000 spec RAM modules with CAS Latency of 15, meaning they're SK Hynix chips, you should aim for DDR4-2933 spec but not expect to achieve it with 100% success rate. I've seen some people only getting DDR4-2666 with those SK-Hynix chips. ChinStrap has DDR4-3200 spec RAM modules with CAS Latency of 14, meaning they're Samsung B-die chips, able to achieve the DDR4-3200 spec without problem in most cases.

From another X370 thead:

No additional settings were needed for the 3200 speed. I only enabled XMP via bios and it loaded everything. I was careful when researching my AM4 build. You end up paying more for the tighter C14 (B-Die) latency but it gives me peace of mind & 1 click setup via bios. To me, that was worth the price.

 

[ChinStrap]

NVMe Raid 0 (Add-In Card)

With the forthcoming Vega enabled APUs, I have been thinking about NVMe Raid 0 on my x370 Gaming/itx. Would it be bootable with an add-in card like Asrock's Ultra Quad M.2 Card? I know the x370 Gaming/itx supports Bifurcation to a 8x/8x level. The Ultra Quad M.2 card does not have any switches onboard, so would m.2 ports 1 and 3 (on the add-in) work for this request?

Is this something that has ever been considered?

(also, I know Dell and Asus make a 4xM.2 add-in that might work)

Edit: (Asrock's pin layout)

 

[ChinStrap]

After digging around quite a bit last night, it's not looking promising.

I guess i'll have to live with my 960 Evo's current performance. (100% 1st world problem.)

 

[greyhamism]

Looks like we've (B350 & X370 ITX) got two new BIOS updates as of 11/1/2018

3.60 is reported as a "Bridge BIOS"

4.40 is reported as a "Update AGESA for upcoming processors." With the note "* Before updating this BIOS, please update the BIOS to P3.60 firstly."

Interesting that there's no mention of fixes for either previous BIOS bugs or any Meltdown/Spectre related fixes (for whichever variant/version these chips are affected by :/

Given the issues reported and the ones ive personally experienced with previous BIOS updates, i might hold of a while longer, but if any one is interested, here are the links :

AB350
https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming-ITXac/index.asp#BIOS

X370
https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty X370 Gaming-ITXac/index.asp#BIOS

 

[AV-Gurus]

Did anyone try this new BIOS?

 

[theGryphon]

Did anyone try this new BIOS?

Did not and will not. Bad reports over at reddit... CPU OC seems to be resolved (since the retracted 4.20) but DIMM voltage stuck at 1.35V (like in 4.20) and some people with multi-bugs. Asrock dropped the ball on these updates, quite disappointed, while I really like the board...

 

[greyhamism]

Did not and will not. Bad reports over at reddit... CPU OC seems to be resolved (since the retracted 4.20) but DIMM voltage stuck at 1.35V (like in 4.20) and some people with multi-bugs. Asrock dropped the ball on these updates, quite disappointed, while I really like the board...

Mind if you share a link for the reddit thread? interested to see what people are saying about multiplier issues as im still having them after updating to 3.40 a while back

 

[ChinStrap]

Mind if you share a link for the reddit thread? interested to see what people are saying about multiplier issues as im still having them after updating to 3.40 a while back

This, Please.

Also, everything is working so well on p3.00 I'm apprehensive about updating until I have an APU in hand.

In all honesty, this board will probably never see an APU. I'll get the B350 version and drop the APU in that. This board will keep it's 1600.

 

[Deleted member 3485]

I've tried the new 4.40 Bios, and since i run almost everything stock, not much has changed - Still nice and stable. RAM at 3200Mhz@14CL. But I was wondering why the bios says "AGESA Version: PinnaclePI-AM4 1.0.0.0" since the low version number threw me off. What I eventually figured, was that they must have reset the AGESA versioning with the new Pinnacle Ridge CPU's coming.

I'm also hoping for Spectre patches soon, even though I'd much rather they would make them properly the first time, even if it takes time. Meltdown patches is not relevant on AMD right?

 

[stree]

Feeling a bit "rabbit in the headlights" at the moment:.......Running a 1200 on an ASrock AB350, got an X370 sat waiting, will be getting whatever the top Raven ridge APU turns out to be........
My thoughts are this : Lift R3 1200, discrete GPU,RAM and m.2 boot from the AB350 and drop into the X370..........see what happens.....same chipset so expecting boot....I have all latest Samsung NVME, AMD chipset, x370 MB drivers etc ready on a USB..Just in case............Expecting a call for Win 10 activation. thats OK.
Will it work? Should do..........
Then when that is tweaked and tidied, should be ready for CPU-APU swap..........1200.to 2400G.
Cooling for APU? not known yet if it ships with one..........Prob a CryorigC7 if not.minor point.
On top of this. the BIOS upgrades.......The AB350 is on 3.10.......the X370 is on 3.0............I think that is where they will stay until plenty more (positive) feedback comes through on the bridge BIOS and then the latest...
and on top of this...................Health is grim...........Nearly hospitalised last week, have a specialist nurse calling weekly.............been out of bed 3 days so hopefully a bit better.........but thinking is a bit hazy sometimes, plus weak as a weak kitten..........But still enthused about getting the Raven ridge onto my X370 and seeing what goes!!

 

[theGryphon]

What I eventually figured, was that they must have reset the AGESA versioning with the new Pinnacle Ridge CPU's coming.

This.

And yes, if you're running DIMM voltages at stock, this BIOS should be fine. They seem to have fixed CPU OC issues since 4.20 too. My DIMMs are OCed at 1.45V, hence this one is a no go for me (and also, with BIOS updates, the motto is 'don't fix that's not broken'). I'm at 3.40...

Reddit discussion: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/7pne17/agesa_1072_is_up_for_asrock_b350x370_itx/
Asrock forum link with a multibug report: http://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7272&title=bios-update-440-will-not-overclock

 

[ChinStrap]

Thank you for the links.