Production Sliger SM550/560/570/580 (2 and 3 slot riser layouts, with air and liquid cooling variants)

[Maniac]

@ermac318
For me the big difference is the ability to have a AIO and a window as well as having improved airflow with top to bottom fans. The M1 is not an option for those interested in having and AIO and showing off their internals.

If the old 580 was to become the 570 that would solve my issue

Oh I beg to differ I wanted an M1 that can do just that, so I made one: https://pcpartpicker.com/b/zGD2FT

The linked build is/was an experiment on my part, too see if it would work at all, and it does. Looks odd but does the job without issues. But in all honesty I am still looking for a case that is basically a taller M1 (6 cm taller), with propper support for top mounted AIO. The one issue with these types of cases is the lack of propper directional airflow (like Bottom -> Top / Front -> Rear).

I've personally never liked dual-chamber or "sandwich" cases due to different component limitations (my AIO pump alone is 71mm), but I have been following this topic closely. The SM series looks very interesting and is really something to consider. Event if it means getting a new AIO .

Perhaps one day there will be a Cerberus version with top mounted AIO

 

[renecop545]

Unfortunately real life snuck up on me and I won't be able to write as detailed as a post as I'd like to. The gist of the benchmarking is:

- The Big Shuriken 3 is by far the best passive cooler for this case. Utilizing Prime95 Small FFTs, the BS3 reached a maximum temperature of 92C on my 2400G after 10 minutes, which is just below the throttle point. The Cryorig C7 Cu reached 97C within 2 minutes of the stress test, while the Phanteks reached 94C after 4 minutes. All of these coolers were tested with the Noctua NF-A12x25 fans locked at 60% PWM (Roughly 1300 RPM).

- For the fans, the Noctua NF-A12x25 definitely have the best balance of noise and performance. If you aren't worried about noise, the Corsair Maglev fans had much higher top RPMs (2800 IIRC) and the most cooling performance, but they were LOUD. The Corsair P120 were suprisingly poor performers and noisy no matter how low the RPMs were. The Noctua Chromax fans performed decently well, but were definitely outperformed by the NF-A12x25.

So my current config has the bottom fans locked at 60% PWM which is pretty much silent, and the GPU fans on the Powercolor Red Dragon RX 580 locked at 55%. The CPU idles around 45-50C depending on environment temperature fluctuations, and the GPU idles 40-45C. Using Metro Last Light Redux benchmark to place realistic long-duration strain on the system, the CPU and GPU both stabilized in the mid 70s after 30 minutes of continued use.

Personally, I'm extremely happy with this, as these temperatures are equivalent to what I had in my NCase but the noise is significantly lower. I wish I was able to produce the more detailed graphs and tables I'd hoped to, but hopefully this information can still help someone.

Those are surprisingly high temps for the cryorig C7 when compared with Sliger's thermal testing results, as they performed better than the semi-passive Dark Rock LP in his test. Were you using a vented or windowed panel for the CPU side?

 

[raulnorry]

Those are surprisingly high temps for the cryorig C7 when compared with Sliger's thermal testing results, as they performed better than the semi-passive Dark Rock LP in his test. Were you using a vented or windowed panel for the CPU side?

I got the window and non-vented panels, which is why the C7 performed so poorly.

 

[Tazpr]

@KSliger the revised Cerberus sounds amazing, although I have concerns about GPU height support you don't get with sandwich layout - although you'll have compromises with whatever layout you go with.

I'm still fully set on buying a 570/580 - whichever ends up coming out - but I really hope you do decide to try and carry over the 550/560 design language as it's so unique and really takes the case from another box to an engaging design.

I think while double 280mm radiators sounds good in theory with sandwich, it's a massive space hog so the decision to go back to the original design is wise.

2 x 280mm in ITX is probably overkill anyway - 240+120 or 280 is more than enough for 90% of GPU+CPU loops and the SM design to have high static pressure fans on the bottom will really aid that principle.

Starting to think I'll go with an SM570 with a single 240 Phoenix and 4 x 2200 RPM 120ER Vardar fans and run them all off the radiator hub.

You can get dual slot 2080ti's for like $1700 AUD now which is pretty decent.

 

[Sahaj]

@raulnorry, is the BS3 able to be oriented correctly for passive cooling while also in its "unlimited RAM height" configuration? I always assumed that unlimited height meant the heatpipes would be facing the RAM sticks, but that seems like the fins would in turn be horizontal and block the air. Thank you! Have enjoyed reading your posts and updates.

 

[KSliger]

There should be new lower FedEx shipping rates live by Friday this week for anyone in SEA or EU.

Just got done signing our agreement, should cut most our shipping rates by 40% or more.

 

[Alur]

There should be new lower FedEx shipping rates live by Friday this week for anyone in SEA or EU.

Just got done signing our agreement, should cut most our shipping rates by 40% or more.

Oh this is fantastic news, SM 570 and I am all set.

 

[Tazpr]

There should be new lower FedEx shipping rates live by Friday this week for anyone in SEA or EU.

Just got done signing our agreement, should cut most our shipping rates by 40% or more.

Amazing news! Being in Australia - many small batch ITX cases can cost a massive amount to ship

 

[wsgroves]

@Sahaj There is the BS3 mounted on a Strix b450 i using the intel mount on am4. That allows for unlimited ram height on this particular board. JUST fits in the case. Non-finalized cabling.

 

[rjeftw]

@wsgroves Looks clean man!

 

[raulnorry]

@raulnorry, is the BS3 able to be oriented correctly for passive cooling while also in its "unlimited RAM height" configuration? I always assumed that unlimited height meant the heatpipes would be facing the RAM sticks, but that seems like the fins would in turn be horizontal and block the air. Thank you! Have enjoyed reading your posts and updates.

I have my BS3 oriented so that the fin stack is over the RAM. I have corsair LPX sticks, and the heatsink is actually sitting on top of the RAM heatspreaders, which doesn't really bother me. The reason I have mine oriented this way instead of how @wsgroves did his was to maximize the amount of air flowing through the radiator by positioning the greatest amount of the heatsink directly over the fans.

 

[Nick2020]

Hi. Please tell me, are you using the front panel with usb 3.0, usb C and HD audio. Where did you order it? Can I buy it in small quantities?

 

[jirachijirachi]

I am looking at the SM560 and wonder if it's possible to fit 2 140mm fans that have 120mm hole spacing (105mm distance between holes)? For example, Noctua A15, Cryorig XF140, Thermalright TY-147A? Perhaps in a future revision?

 

[wsgroves]

140 fans will not fit to my knowledge. You can see how close my 120's are to the edge. @raulnorry I had the same issue. Absolutely will not fit with the g.skill memory and even Corsair LPX, it pushes down on them pretty good and tilts the cooler. Seems there is no perfect solution.
Thanks @rjeftw I am still working on the cables and getting shorter ones.. It's not the easiest thing to route through haha.
On a sweet note, the 560 is supposed to actually arrive early, today. Stoaked about that and will try to swap everything over asap.

 

[E0000B6FAF25838]

On a sweet note, the 560 is supposed to actually arrive early, today. Stoaked about that and will try to swap everything over asap.

Same for me. Just got the notification it's been delivered. Still stuck at work for another 4 hours though >.<

 

[sfxbajan]

Same for me. Just got the notification it's been delivered. Still stuck at work for another 4 hours though >.<

4 hours long hours now eh? lol

 

[SpartanM07]

Here's my build. Finished it last night. Managed to install an Asetek 545lc by building a acrylic adapter. The 2700x and RTX 2080 reach a max of 55C and 53C, respectively.

 

[rjeftw]

Thanks @rjeftw I am still working on the cables and getting shorter ones.. It's not the easiest thing to route through haha.
On a sweet note, the 560 is supposed to actually arrive early, today. Stoaked about that and will try to swap everything over asap.

Looking forward to it! What color did you get?

Here's my build. Finished it last night. Managed to install an Asetek 545lc by building a acrylic adapter. The 2700x and RTX 2080 reach a max of 55C and 53C, respectively.

Holy hell that looks sexy as hell. I love the red! Are you running the 2700X stock; What EVGA variant of the 2080 is that?

 

[raulnorry]

Here's my build. Finished it last night. Managed to install an Asetek 545lc by building a acrylic adapter. The 2700x and RTX 2080 reach a max of 55C and 53C, respectively.

Wow, awesome job squeezing that CLC in there! I need to take some pictures of my case now that I've got cables managed and everything. Those temperatures are amazing, and isn't the red paint beautiful?

 

[SpartanM07]

Looking forward to it! What color did you get?



Holy hell that looks sexy as hell. I love the red! Are you running the 2700X stock; What EVGA variant of the 2080 is that?

Thanks, red is my favorite color. Yes, the 2700x is stock besides a 0.1V underclock. It's the EVGA RTX 2080 FTW3 Ultra with the added red trim kit and metal faceplate. I got it used from eBay for $730 with those accessories and it's unused EVGA 2080 FTW3 waterblock.