S4 MINI Classic (S4M-C)

[Zero]

While the copper shim works in theory, it creates two separate barriers to heat transmission. In practice this is probably hurt performance enough that you'd be better choosing another option for cooling.

I thought of something that might work...

Seems copper CPU shims are easy enough to buy on Amazon or whatever. I have some 60/40 lead solder (lowest melting point solder, 188c).

What if I simply put the vapor chamber heatsink upside-down on a pan on my stove, put some of the solder between the vapor chamber and the shim, and press them together that way once the solder melts? That'd make a solid joint with negligible thermal resistance.

 

[W1NN1NG]

I thought of something that might work...

Seems copper CPU shims are easy enough to buy on Amazon or whatever. I have some 60/40 lead solder (lowest melting point solder, 188c).

What if I simply put the vapor chamber heatsink upside-down on a pan on my stove, put some of the solder between the vapor chamber and the shim, and press them together that way once the solder melts? That'd make a solid joint with negligible thermal resistance.

I feel like even if you did manage to do that. You're literally going through a HUGE amount of trouble just to make it work. Personally it wouldn't be for me. But I mean to each their own

 

[Zero]

I feel like even if you did manage to do that. You're literally going through a HUGE amount of trouble just to make it work. Personally it wouldn't be for me. But I mean to each their own

Sure, but I mean, how else are you gonna get a copper vapor chamber in an S4, aside from buying a X299 mobo? The closest things for 115X are the IS-VC45 aluminum vapor chamber (doesn't perform that well from what I hear), or the upcoming Cryorig C7 all-copper (that uses heatpipes instead of a vapor chamber, might be comparable in performance though since the whole thing is copper) and that is still nowhere to be seen though they told me they're on track to release it before 2018.

I don't mind some mods, I've done some crazy stuff with my S4 already, nothing permanent to the case itself though

 

[Parge]

Preorder for the new skyreach 4 starts on Friday!

SFF Lab page just got updated!

 

[CC Ricers]

Preorder for the new skyreach 4 starts on Friday!

SFF Lab page just got updated!

Black Friday... quality timing

 

[EdZ]

Sure, but I mean, how else are you gonna get a copper vapor chamber in an S4, aside from buying a X299 mobo?

If the vapour chamber is not in contact with the IHS, then it has no advantage. Once you solder that copper shim to the bottom, it will perform worse than a heatpipe-based heatsink.

 

[ngriesdo]

Preorder for the new skyreach 4 starts on Friday!

SFF Lab page just got updated!

That info has been available since Friday when the site went live.

 

[Broxin]

Edz is right.
You could try the soldering route, would be an interesting try

 

[Parge]

That info has been available since Friday when the site went live.

Oh I didn't see it before.

 

[Zero]

If the vapour chamber is not in contact with the IHS, then it has no advantage. Once you solder that copper shim to the bottom, it will perform worse than a heatpipe-based heatsink.

How do you figure? Ordinary heatpipe-heatsinks are essentially a shim soldered to the heatpipes. The intel IHS itself is essentially a thick shim, and AMD solders theirs to the chip. I don't see how a thin layer of solder in between two mostly-touching pieces of copper drags the conductivity down that much.

 

[Kmpkt]

You lose a lot of thermal conductivity when you don't have a single piece of material. Like I said, a shim would be adding two of these points (one between IHS and shim, one between shim and vapour plate). You might be able to reduce this through use of liquid metal TIM, but not eliminate it completely.

 

[CubanLegend]

my TITAN TTC-NC25TZ/HS came in! Gonna test it on the S4 mini against my LP53 and the NF-A9x14 after the discord AMA today.

YES it came with all the mounting hardware and the fan retention brackets! And some neat instructions!

NF-A9x14 PWM Premium fitment test:

 

[Broxin]

I had this thing also but somehow it would not fit into the s4 with the z270i

 

[Broxin]

You lose a lot of thermal conductivity when you don't have a single piece of material. Like I said, a shim would be adding two of these points (one between IHS and shim, one between shim and vapour plate). You might be able to reduce this through use of liquid metal TIM, but not eliminate it completely.

With high silver soldered in between it could work great. Ofcourse a solid piece of copper cooler is allways better.

 

[CubanLegend]

I had this thing also but somehow it would not fit into the s4 with the z270i

I'm gonna try my hardest to fit it! Here's hoping it works!

 

[AP2]

I had this thing also but somehow it would not fit into the s4 with the z270i

it works just fine. You have to change the mounting bracket position on the bottom of the cooler.

here it was installed on my z270i...

 

[CubanLegend]

it works just fine

here it was installed on my z270i...

interesting fin orientation.... I'll try to get it to fit parallel to the RAM. Pray for me!

 

[AP2]

interesting fin orientation.... I'll try to get it to fit parallel to the RAM. Pray for me!

i tried, but it won't work. that's why i have installed that way. also, you'll have to change the mounting bracket location on the bottom of the cooler.

curious what your temps will be like with 92mm noctua fan. I have yet to try mine, as I've been using the slim 120 noctua fan.

 

[rokabeka]

Sure, but I mean, how else are you gonna get a copper vapor chamber in an S4, aside from buying a X299 mobo?

buying a 2011 R3 one (x99 or c612)

 

[CubanLegend]

video up! I love you, Josh!