Prototype MT4-S - Compact and flexible 4 liter case

What finish would you prefer on this case?

  • Bare brushed aluminum

    Votes: 2 16.7%
  • Black powder-coated

    Votes: 8 66.7%
  • Two-tone (black inner frame with silver exterior)

    Votes: 2 16.7%

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Neat! I think the ZS-A4-DC had a similar layout for LP cards? Not sure if that's still available on Taobao though
Yes, the ZS-A4-DC is available here. I haven't seen any actual photos of version 2, though.

I also chose the layout since it does make the most sense for LP cards. The heavier power supply sits on the bottom, and for cards with a passive heatsink the hot air can flow up without restrictions.
 

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The frame should be almost complete. Here's a teaser showing the top fan mount. I just need to countersink the screw holes.



I'm actually having a tougher time deciding which LP graphics card to buy. For a Hackintosh the RX 560 is the best you could do if you want to stay with the latest MacOS, but there's still better deals with Nvidia cards otherwise.
 
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Trying to follow up on Sliger to see if I can get the parts powder coated for the next run of prototypes. I've spoken to one of their engineers previously and they've been helpful in directing me to a supplier that was more affordable for cutting the parts.
 

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I sent an order to create the inner frames for one of the slot-screw designs, for full-height graphics cards. If the design works out I would want to make at least 2 or 3 pre-production models which would later be sold.
 
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Here's a style update for the cases. After evaluating the 1.6mm aluminum side panels for the original prototype, I've decided that longer diagonal vents will probably work fine with this material. This panel design also uses a clean front panel with simple bends to avoid visible screws in the front. The power button has moved to the top and reduced from 16mm to 12mm diameter.



The cooler peeking through is the Alpehfohn Black Ridge (thanks to @AURMEND for uploading it), with the ventilation area showing how much of it would be exposed for intake air. And here is the case build with the panels removed.

 

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Is there a 46 mm height to fit the RPS-400?
Currently at 43mm but that excludes the inner bottom panel which adds 2mm of height.
Is the 46mm height with some added screws? According to the datasheet the RPS-400-C with enclosure is 43mm tall.
 

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Currently at 43mm but that excludes the inner bottom panel which adds 2mm of height.
Is the 46mm height with some added screws? According to the datasheet the RPS-400-C with enclosure is 43mm tall.
Ah you're right. Sweet. Should be a good fit. I would make sure it is able to be offset, so you can add a fan to the side.
 

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No guarantees for extra fan room but I'll see what I can do.

I decided to make the frames for at least 3 prototypes. The exterior designs are proving to be a bigger challenge for cost reasons, limited flexibility of vent patterns when you use laser cutting.

I'm considering an economical alternative for the side panels- how do you feel about mesh sheets for ventilation, as with the FormD T1 or original Velka M?
 

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No guarantees for extra fan room but I'll see what I can do.

I decided to make the frames for at least 3 prototypes. The exterior designs are proving to be a bigger challenge for cost reasons, limited flexibility of vent patterns when you use laser cutting.

I'm considering an economical alternative for the side panels- how do you feel about mesh sheets for ventilation, as with the FormD T1 or original Velka M?
Could be neat! Not knowing anything about manufacturing I'm surprised lazer cutting is that pricey. Could be something an early adopter would be interested in DIYing anyways
 

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Could be neat! Not knowing anything about manufacturing I'm surprised lazer cutting is that pricey. Could be something an early adopter would be interested in DIYing anyways
Laser cutting is great for all sorts of shapes, but part of the cost is lasering time and a lot of time is spent just burning through the material over and over again for the cutting hundreds of small holes. For those kinds of hole patterns, punching or drilling is more efficient.

Speaking of, the frames are being cut right now and I might get them over the weekend if I'm lucky. Also bought an old mini GPU that uses more power for thermals testing.
 

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Here's a style update for the cases. After evaluating the 1.6mm aluminum side panels for the original prototype, I've decided that longer diagonal vents will probably work fine with this material. This panel design also uses a clean front panel with simple bends to avoid visible screws in the front. The power button has moved to the top and reduced from 16mm to 12mm diameter.
That looks fantastic imo

I'm looking forward to seeing a prototype in the new styling
 
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That looks fantastic imo

I'm looking forward to seeing a prototype in the new styling
Thanks for the kind words.
The panels may be altered slightly to be two separate pieces instead of three. The larger of the two would wrap around with the same number of bends to be one continuous piece on the GPU side.



A few benefits: A cleaner look on the GPU side, as you can expose both the front and side of the case by removing one panel instead of two for easy GPU installation.
 
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Thanks for the kind words.
The panels may be altered slightly to be two separate pieces instead of three. The larger of the two would wrap around with the same number of bends to be one continuous piece on the GPU side.



A few benefits: A cleaner look on the GPU side, as you can expose both the front and side of the case by removing one panel instead of two for easy GPU installation.
Clever, and the "left" side is usually the "show" side on most cases with glass windows so it would be the better one to not have the seam.
 
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That gave me another idea. Would you prefer a smaller vented acrylic panel in at least one of the sides to better view the hardware?

Not a full acrylic panel like Geeek's cases, but an acrylic window attached to the metal panel, like shown here:


Just imagine the clear window also has vents cut into it.

Pro: you can display your hardware a lot better, and laser cutting vents in an acrylic panel is cheaper than laser cut metal
Con: requires more time for case assembly (on my part)
 

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My 2 cents, I don't think clear panels look as nice when ventilation is cut into them. The nicest one I can think of is done on Lazer3D HT5, but even still I think the ventilation looks better on the opaque acrylic used on the side

I guess I don't like seeing the ventilation cuts from inside the material? I don't know how to describe it but it makes the ventilation feel "busier"
I'm very curious to hear what others think.
I agree with you. I am not a big fan of acrylic windows anyway and when you add ventilation to them I think they look terrible.
 

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Will take that into consideration. Think I will stick with all metal for now.
 

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The first frame parts have arrived. Here's a picture showing most of them.



I had started assembling the pieces together with the screws and most of the pieces are a tight fit. Looks like the slots do interlock in the right places.