- Nov 22, 2017
/snip. already asked
I am not really familiar with the MeanWell power supplies, so I can only go off what I can see on the spec sheets searching for them online.Hey @K888D , a quick question: would I be able to fit a MeanWell UHP-200-12 (194x55x26mm) or UHP-350-12 (220x62x31mm) in this case? The spec says there's room for expansion cards up to 196mm in length, so I'm guessing there might be room down the side for the 200W one (and quite definitely in the front), but it needs a few mm on each side for cables. The 350W looks like it ought to fit across the front (as long as none of the fan mounts are used, but I'm wondering if it will interfere with the power button. Any thoughts on this? I know there are other MeanWell options that are easier to fit, but these are the only ones that I can easily get a hold of in my country
Thanks, that helps a lot! I suspected as much, but couldn't quite figure it out without either learning 3D modelling or buying the case and PSU to test - which would be a rather expensive experiment. I guess one possible solution would be to make a custom mounting plate that fits in the fan holder slots (to avoid interference with the corner blocks), but that would require some ... interesting geometry to work. Guess I'll have to keep thinking about this. This isn't my first time posting in this thread, and I'm (still) planning to buy your case (only case I've seen that looks good enough to have sitting prominently in the living room that also fits the hardware I want ), I just have to figure out how to manage the brickless build that I want with parts that I can actually get at ... semi-reasonable prices, and then save up enough to actually afford the system.I am not really familiar with the MeanWell power supplies, so I can only go off what I can see on the spec sheets searching for them online.
I don't think there will be enough clearance in the HT5 for the UHP-200-12 to fit it to the left or right of the motherboard, the reason being is the corner blocks that hold the case together are 15x10x5mm and will likely interfere with trying to get the MeanWell to fit into that space.
However, you may be able to fit it along the front section of the case and still be able to mount a low profile GPU or 2x 80mm fans. The only potential issue I can see is that there is 24mm clearance to the front of the motherboard and the UHP-200 is 26mm thick, so the module will overlap the front of the motherboard by 2mm and could potentially interfere with the 24 Pin ATX power connector on the motherboard (depending on your motherboard layout).
Here is a view from the top with a mockup of the UHP-200:
Here you can see the clearance in a bit more detail:
I hope that helps a little bit, sorry I can't give any concrete answers as this is not something I have tested or have any experience with.
Thanks for the comments, if you're set on getting the Cryorig C1 then the only way to fit this cooler would be to raise the top panel by at least 2mm. However with the fan being on top it will be right up against the vents of the top panel and the fan turbulence noise will be very bad.Cheers @K888D
I am curious about fit 74mm tall CPU cooler in HT5. I am talking about Cryorig C1, it looks like a bit better than Noctua NH-L12S (especially with bottom-mounted fan). I suppose that I can put 3mm washers between top cover and corner joints. Also I keep in mind option to cut 140x140 hole for fan and mount 25mm height one. Now I am waiting for C1 and HDPLEX 400w, then I will order your HT5.
So, any advice about 74mm cooler in HT5?
I'm not surprised you were disappointed, that's quite a huge step down in cooling performance!Ok. Got it. Didn't remember about turbulence. Looks like the modding of top-lid is likeliest option in my case
About NH-L12S... Currently I have i7-7820X, of course delidded. Currently it cools by Dark Rock 4, OCed to 4.3Ghz all cores, stress-test temperatures ~80C. I had NH-L12s on my ryzens (1500x, 2200g) and I was disappointed, temps were the same ~80C but my current CPU hotter than those... Ok, will try different scenarios Anyway will post my build here
I don't compare it with Dark Rock 4 cause they arent in the same league Just thought it's far enough for "cold" ryzens, but it's not enough.I'm not surprised you were disappointed, that's quite a huge step down in cooling performance!
Just had a look on Big Shuriken 3 and it looks promising. Also there are enough clearance between fan and top lid to avoid turbulence noise. Found some test on Youtube and Noctua still looks better...However, if your looking for a case of this size then CPU cooler height becomes an important factor and of the sub 70mm coolers available on the market the L12S is one of the best, possibly only bettered by the new Scythe Big Shuriken 3 (not tested it yet).
I planned to install side fans to push warm air out of case. But your words changed my opinionsecondly the cooler is pushing the warm exhaust air directly out the case through the vents thus reducing the number 1 issue of SFF cases being heat re-circulation.
Yes the top panels are available separately at Overclockers UK (just search HT5), or if you order from our website direct just email me at [email protected] after you've placed an order and I'll add an extra panel to your order.Is it possible to order HT5 with 2 top-lids (If I decide to mod top-lid I will have spare in case of modding fails)?
Thanks! I'd be happy to share any information I have. I haven't done a whole lot of stress testing yet, but I'II share some observations.Very nice build
Really like how you carried the color scheme to the KB as well. The walnut and beige look surprisingly good together. If you get the chance can you share your temps and impressions on noise levels?
Thanks for sharing!
Sorry about that, in all the cases we've sold its the first time this has ever happened, I must have been having a bad day in the office.Motherboard standoffs are normally screwed into the bottom panel before being shipped, but my case did not ship with the standoffs. On a very positive note, Kevin told me which standoffs to buy and refunded the cost.
I've updated the files for the Pico adapter to a wider hole. This is the adapter you are referring to I think:The hole in the back of the case that accepts the 4-pin DIN connector from the PicoPSU power brick was too narrow. I had to widen it with a hand drill before I could power on the computer.
That is certainly an aggressive fan curve!I've set a pretty aggressive fan curve; If I remember correctly, right now it's something like this:
- <35 C: 30% speed
- 35-45 C: 45% speed
- 45-50 C: 60% speed
- 50-55 C: 80% speed
- >55 C: 100% speed
These temperatures are really low to be fair, at 100% load it would be perfectly acceptable for your CPU to be hovering around 70C - 80C or even 90C, the Intel CPU's don't start thermal throttling until they reach 100C. My suggestion for a more comfortable lower noise system would be to ease off your fan curves, you have plenty of headroom to do so.Running Stress on all cores (100% usage) brings the temperature to about 52 C. The sound from the computer is kinda loud, but not annoying loud. Running the MatLab simulation on all cores brings the temperature to about 46 C, and the noise is audible but not particularly noticeable.
I have yet to see temperatures break 55 C in any of the tests I've done. Running the tests for longer or running different tests may change that story. I'm will to try things if you have any suggestions.
No worries about the issues. Thanks again for your help.Thank you for sharing your build, the beige and walnut looks really nice.
Sorry about that, in all the cases we've sold its the first time this has ever happened, I must have been having a bad day in the office.
I've updated the files for the Pico adapter to a wider hole. This is the adapter you are referring to I think:
That is certainly an aggressive fan curve!
These temperatures are really low to be fair, at 100% load it would be perfectly acceptable for your CPU to be hovering around 70C - 80C or even 90C, the Intel CPU's don't start thermal throttling until they reach 100C. My suggestion for a more comfortable lower noise system would be to ease off your fan curves, you have plenty of headroom to do so.
If you want to lower your system noise then something like this may help:
The NH-L12S is overkill for the 8700T so you can afford to run a much softer curve, the example above is tuned for silence under normal to moderate usage, but under high load the fans will kick in. Your CPU may run a little warmer, but if your sitting under 50C - 60C for most the stuff you are doing I wouldn't worry about it.
- <40 C: 20% speed
- 40-50 C: 30% speed
- 50-70 C: 50% speed
- >70 C: 100% speed