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[AchromaticYYC]

2020-11-28: Asus ROG STRIX 3070, 3080, 3090 compatibility will require a new Front T-Frame.

Is the Strix thing happening?
Anyone know???? my Strix arrives this week... and my case will be shipping mid January...

 

[Wahaha360]

Is the Strix thing happening?
Anyone know???? my Strix arrives this week... and my case will be shipping mid January...

Yes, but it will require a new Front T-Frame that's going to release closer to Feb 2021.

 

[Wahaha360]

2020-12-05 Update: 2020 Inventory Sold Out! Next Batch 2021!

 

[TSOF]

Sorry if this has been covered.

What's the consensus on PCIE 4.0 capable risers? I know the 3m one is supposed to have the bandwidth, but does it actually handshake as pcie 4.0?

I'd really rather not have to take the 3090 out and replace it with my old PCIE 3.0 card every time I clear CMOS....

 

[PKAWA]

Can't help you with the 3m riser.
As far as i know the linkup should work fine, but I've personally decided to hold out for the one from Formd because I think the price can't be justified and there's prob no added value yet.

 

[biopunk]

Sorry if this has been covered.

What's the consensus on PCIE 4.0 capable risers? I know the 3m one is supposed to have the bandwidth, but does it actually handshake as pcie 4.0?

I'd really rather not have to take the 3090 out and replace it with my old PCIE 3.0 card every time I clear CMOS....

I haven't tried this myself but OT said in his video that you can uninstall graphics drivers prior to updating BIOS.

 

[TSOF]

I haven't tried this myself but OT said in his video that you can uninstall graphics drivers prior to updating BIOS.

Doesn't help if I need to clear CMOS because the system's not posting!

 

[AchromaticYYC]

Yes, but it will require a new Front T-Frame that's going to release closer to Feb 2021.

Will existing case & strix owners get first dibs?

 

[Bonusround]

Sorry if this has been covered.

What's the consensus on PCIE 4.0 capable risers? I know the 3m one is supposed to have the bandwidth, but does it actually handshake as pcie 4.0?

I'd really rather not have to take the 3090 out and replace it with my old PCIE 3.0 card every time I clear CMOS....

I believe the risers are completely passive devices. Their bandwidth capability is a matter of wire quality and length tolerance. Any handshaking is performed by the motherboard and expansion card components only.

TLDR; the 3M riser has better electrical specs.

 

[BSartist]

So the 3M riser works as PCIE 4.0? I assume this has been tested?
Where can one buy one for the T1?

 

[hetvler]

While we're on the topic, anyone know how well the louqe 4.0 riser works? It's on preorder on amazon rn so i'd like to get in on that if it works well.

apparently the linkup riser isn't so great but i'd rather not buy one now and have to replace it later when risers are better.

if we had a ranking of 3m louqe and linkup that would be cool.

edit: or i guess i could just deal with the 3.0 quirkyness until risers are worth it lol. thats probably the better option.

 

[AP2]

What’s the issue with linkup riser? I’ve had many and they all performed well in the past.

NM.. click Ned on the link. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Bonusround]

So the 3M riser works as PCIE 4.0? I assume this has been tested?
Where can one buy one for the T1?

According to @dondan, who has sold many in his cases, yes.

 

[Wahaha360]

While we're on the topic, anyone know how well the louqe 4.0 riser works? It's on preorder on amazon rn so i'd like to get in on that if it works well.

apparently the linkup riser isn't so great but i'd rather not buy one now and have to replace it later when risers are better.

if we had a ranking of 3m louqe and linkup that would be cool.

edit: or i guess i could just deal with the 3.0 quirkyness until risers are worth it lol. thats probably the better option.

None of these risers are cheap, if you going to spend the money, why not stick to 3M when you know it just works.

 

[hetvler]

None of these risers are cheap, if you going to spend the money, why not stick to 3M when you know it just works.

does the 3m not have the same performance issues as the linkup riser?

its only a couple percent but if i'm buying a new card i'm gonna use the whole card dammit

 

[rarskies]

Oh interesting, thanks. Hopefully someone else can chime in soon.

Check out this Legend’s detailed post on reddit (check the graph way down the bottom). I think adding the noctua A12x25 underneath makes a pretty significant difference. In Matt’s testing he targeted a 31C water temp with 20C ambient. With just 2 slim fans he had to run them at 1300RPM, with an extra noctua 25mm he could run them at 950RPM instead. Guesstimating I reckon that’s a 2-5C different in water temps when running at the same RPM. The A12x25 is just such a beast. Keep in mind his slim testing was done in pull, so you *might* get 1C gains on push.

I have 2 slims + noctua a12x25 on my tx240 and it keeps my 5700xt and 9700k well in check (~55C max with 22C ambient) at fairly quiet fan speeds (~1200RPM). With more powerful components expect higher temps.

 

[BSartist]

None of these risers are cheap, if you going to spend the money, why not stick to 3M when you know it just works.

I have not been able to find a 3M cable with the reverse connector for the GPU side.

 

[PKAWA]

I was wondering if the M.2 on the back of the motherboard can be the C drive?

 

[hetvler]

Check out this Legend’s detailed post on reddit (check the graph way down the bottom). I think adding the noctua A12x25 underneath makes a pretty significant difference. In Matt’s testing he targeted a 31C water temp with 20C ambient. With just 2 slim fans he had to run them at 1300RPM, with an extra noctua 25mm he could run them at 950RPM instead. Guesstimating I reckon that’s a 2-5C different in water temps when running at the same RPM. The A12x25 is just such a beast. Keep in mind his slim testing was done in pull, so you *might* get 1C gains on push.

I have 2 slims + noctua a12x25 on my tx240 and it keeps my 5700xt and 9700k well in check (~55C max with 22C ambient) at fairly quiet fan speeds (~1200RPM). With more powerful components expect higher temps.

Perfect, thank you.

 

[MaZo]

Long time lurker here anxiously waiting for my E-White T1 to arrive to go with a 5800X, 3080 FE, 16GB of Corsair 3600 C14 RAM, a PCIe 4.0 NVMe M2 drive, and a EK 240 AIO.

My case is part of the Dec 1-4 batch, however seems not to have been shipped yet. Any word on the shipping status?