Production FormD T1 Classic (READ FIRST POST)

Increase volume from 9.8L to 10.5L to support MSI Suprim X 30XX?

  • Yes, worth the trade off to be more compatible with components

    Votes: 65 19.8%
  • No, not worth it b/c it is not better than the ROG 30XX, which fits now at <10L

    Votes: 263 80.2%

  • Total voters
    328

Navic

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Has anyone tested and/or thinks a 120mm aio can handle an overclocked 5600x? I've been changing my mind on L12s vs 120mm vs 240mm aio for months and I still can't decide.
I think it might, but from what I've heard from other people with that CPU, going with a 240mm AIO will provide you with the most overclocking headroom.
Can someone tell me what this "More GPU Slot Options for T1?" voting is for? Is it a side panel that extrudes out of the case? Like a 2.75 GPU slot will have a side panel that extrudes out 0.75 PCIE slots? So you can fit a 2.75 Slot GPU inside of the 2 slot mode so the CPU side can have more space? Or is it simply a just another drill hole?
I assume it will be a new back and front piece to replace the ones that come with the case as an upgrade, and possibly make it stock into the next revision of the case. But until we know official things, it's all up in the air right now, nothing has really been finalized or announced.
 

zacobin

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3) I feel like I remember reading something along the lines of "your preorder date is the latest this order is expected to ship" though I could be making this up, ignore if I am indeed making it up. Does that mean there's a chance it ships early? Have other preorder dates been shipping early?

Mine came about 1 week before original expected delivery, actually. I did get a notification that it was shipping though and I feel like it's more that it arrived early rather than was shipped early since it only took 4 days from notification to being at my door.
 
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jouz

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Not sure if this has been talked about before in this thread:

Why haven't I seen a single build where the PSU is flipped with the fan on the inside to pull out air from the inside of the case?
  • Wouldn't this make sense in positive pressure setups (i.e. radiator fans blowing into the case)?
  • Plus, the "hot side" of the PSU is the side where the PCB sits, so having this side facing the outside of the case would mean less warming up of the inside?
  • Also, at least for the SF750, the atx connector positions are biased to one side, so in some cases flipping this way may actually help tube routing a little...
This of course only applies for people that have short GPUs or have 2 slot setups with the PSU offset to 3 slot mode, as otherwise the PSU fan would be covered up.
 
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thelaughingman

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30mm thick rad + 15mm thick fans - see the bulge yet? ? ? ?
 

PKAWA

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is there anybody I can help with a AMD 6800 NON xt? i was able to order one, but will keep my 3080
Offer expired, card no longer available.
 
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hetvler

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Looks like I'm back on the nvidia train, was hoping for better RT performance and no counter to DLSS yet isn't helping. Though the DLSS counter is supposedly coming out with the 6900xt in December which is probably before I'll be able to find a card in stock anyways so maybe i'll be back on AMD when that drops.

The 3080 TUF gaming is probably the best that fits right? Might as well keep an eye out.
 

PKAWA

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Looks like I'm back on the nvidia train, was hoping for better RT performance and no counter to DLSS yet isn't helping. Though the DLSS counter is supposedly coming out with the 6900xt in December which is probably before I'll be able to find a card in stock anyways so maybe i'll be back on AMD when that drops.

The 3080 TUF gaming is probably the best that fits right? Might as well keep an eye out.
Yeah I'm very happy with it.
I think it's about the best card to have right now.
I've heard that the 3080TI is coming in Januari too at 999 dollar so that might be an option as well.
 

hetvler

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Yeah I'm very happy with it.
I think it's about the best card to have right now.
I've heard that the 3080TI is coming in Januari too at 999 dollar so that might be an option as well.
thats a bit too rich for my blood, but it if comes out before i can get my card maybe it will adjust the pricing of the 3080!

I'm just concerned about the 10gb of the 3080.... Is that actually problematic? its the only thing really preventing me from being super excited about being back on the 3080 train
 

PKAWA

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thats a bit too rich for my blood, but it if comes out before i can get my card maybe it will adjust the pricing of the 3080!

I'm just concerned about the 10gb of the 3080.... Is that actually problematic? its the only thing really preventing me from being super excited about being back on the 3080 train
I don't really know but the 16gb ps5 has no seperate ram and gpu memory so it's shared.
That makes the total available gpu memory a lot less.
I think you'll be fine with the faster 10gb 6x memory but not for how long.
It comes down to how long you are planning to use the card, and what for. If it's mainly gaming then the 3080 will probably be just fine for at least two years and maybe longer.
The tuf is 729 euro and when I look at the 6900xt, 1080ti or 3090 I think the price doesn't really justify the performance gain.
This might be something you'd like to see:
 

hetvler

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I don't really know but the 16gb ps5 has no seperate ram and gpu memory so it's shared.
That makes the total available gpu memory a lot less.
I think you'll be fine with the faster 10gb 6x memory but not for how long.
It comes down to how long you are planning to use the card, and what for. If it's mainly gaming then the 3080 will probably be just fine for at least two years and maybe longer.
The tuf is 729 euro and when I look at the 6900xt, 1080ti or 3090 I think the price doesn't really justify the performance gain.
This might be something you'd like to see:
Sheesh, thats a lot of money. Thankfully i'm USD gang so its not quite that expensive for me.

I'm currently on a 970 so anything will be a huge upgrade I just want to give myself the best chance to last equally as long on my next card as my 970 has lasted me and it looks like the 3080 is going to do that as RT becomes a more popular technology.

I watched his review this morning and i was super excited....until he got to the RT performance haha
 

PKAWA

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I feel my 3080tuf is the better card to own over the 6800xt for dlss, the displayed colors, raytracing, and drivers.
The 6900xt might be as good as the 3090 for 999 dollar but dlss, colors, raytracing and possibly drivers will still be lacking. So the next two years my 3080 will be with me.
 
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hetvler

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I feel my 3080tuf is the better card to own over the 6800xt for dlss, the displayed colors, raytracing, and drivers.
The 6900xt might be as good as the 3090 for 999 dollar but dlss, colors, raytracing and possibly drivers will still be lacking. So the next two years my 3080 will be with me.
you sure you don't want to part with it? i'm in the market
 
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ellroy80

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Speaking of vid cards, does anyone know if a 3070 with more memory is on the cards in the next few months? I read that it was, and then it was cancelled. Just wondering if that has also changed.
 

PKAWA

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you sure you don't want to part with it? i'm in the market
Hahah no well the plan was to sell the complete T1 it to a friend of mine and to put a 6900xt in my new T1, but since I've decided against it, my current pc will be sold without gpu
 

PKAWA

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Speaking of vid cards, does anyone know if a 3070 with more memory is on the cards in the next few months? I read that it was, and then it was cancelled. Just wondering if that has also changed.
That's what I've heard too. 3070TI and 3080TI's to counter the AMD cards.
Not sure which gap they are supposed to fill since the difference between the 3080 and 3090 is already very small.
Personally I wouldn't get a 3070 that is 2080ti levels of performance, because it doesn't seem like an upgrade to me.
But maybe my use case is different. (4K)
 

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ellroy80

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That's what I've heard too. 3070TI and 3080TI's to counter the AMD cards.
Not sure which gap they are supposed to fill since the difference between the 3080 and 3090 is already very small.
Personally I wouldn't get a 3070 that is 2080ti levels of performance, because it doesn't seem like an upgrade to me.
But maybe my use case is different. (4K)
1440p for me here. Just concerned that 8gb will be a limitation down the road.
 
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TutorialIsland

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welp I did it for the EK-AIO and now for the custom loop. compatibility-wise, if it was the TX240 rad (20mm thick), fitting the 3rd full size fan below the rad is quite easy actually. I chose the harder route by using a thicker rad (30mm) just for the extra ports so that I can fill/drain the loop much quicker. You can check the build log in my signature, it has everything that I've done on my build up to this point
Ye, that’s why I was curious, got the 240-D RGB like 7 months ago in anticipation for eventually getting the t1, so fitting a full 25mm alongside the two slim fans is something I hadn’t considered possible, due to the thick size of the radiator.