CPU Deskmini x300 APU 5600G or 5700G

graziano68

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I bought a Deskmini x300 with Bios 1.70 already installed , what APU do you recommend between 5600G and 5700G ?
I have seen that these are very similar but 5700G is much more expensive .
 

infoberg

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If you're looking for graphics performance, the 5700G should give you roughly 10% more FPS, depending on the game. Multi-Core CPU benchmarks are about 20% better for the 5700G.
 

infoberg

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Yes. If the 10%-20% performance gain is worth the price difference is up to you to decide 😉
 

graziano68

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Thank you , do you think that will be better/faster CPU over the 5700G in the future available for Deskmini x300 ?
 

graziano68

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better to buy 5600G waiting something better than 5700G , or there will be nothing after 5700G for x300 ?
 

infoberg

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as far as I know, there will be nothing after the Ryzen 5000 series which fits in the AM4 socket. The coming 6000 servies will use a new socket AM5. So the Ryzen 7 5700G should be the most powerful APU fitting in any of the current AM4 boards.
 
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LukeD

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Tested in an X300

 

HydrAxx747

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Which SO-DIMM memory module kit are you using?
It has a RAM kit of the same kind as mine: they are 2 RAM sticks from a Corsair Vengeance SO-DIMM 32GB (4x8GB) kit originally intended for Intel X299 platforms (for Core i9 series " XE") with a microITX motherboard with four SO-DIMM slots and operating in quad channel, hence the kits existing only with 4x8GB RAM sticks, these are rather rare to find and very expensive (it takes at least 400usd see more for one of these kits).

Corsair has released 3 variations of the same kit as they are all physically the same using "E0" SO-DIMM PCBs (the best for overclocking in this form factor) with sorted and binned 1GB Samsung "B-Die" chips for in obtain the best candidates, the three variants are:

1) CMSX32GX4M4X3600C16: 4X8GB kit clocked at 3600MHz and latencies 16-18-18-36-1T under 1.35v.

2) CMSX32GX4M4X3800C18: 4X8GB kit clocked at 3800MHz and latencies 18-19-19-39-1T under 1.35v.


3) CMSX32GX4M4X4000C19: 4X8GB kit clocked at 4000MHz and latencies 19-23-23-45-1T under 1.35v. <---- personally I was very lucky to come across this kit for sale on a site selling small ads for individuals, where the person was selling the kit for 240usd and I had even more luck when I I asked the person who sold them if they could only sell me a pair for 120usd and she accepted, moreover on my deskmini x300 perfectly holds the 4000MHz with synchronized InfinityFabric (2000MHz) and the latencies can be tightened without instability to 18-18-18-38-1T with the 1.35v of vdimm of course.


Otherwise, there is also GSkill which had released two other equivalents but they are harder to find because they are difficult to find because they have gone into "End of Life" status, but here are the references if you want to find out:

1)F4-3800C18Q-32GRS: 4X8GB kit clocked at 3800MHz and latencies 18-18-18-38-1T under 1.35v.
2)F4-4000C18Q-32GRS: 4X8GB kit clocked at 4000MHz and latencies 18-18-18-38-1T under 1.35v.


I put some links to official pages below, but if you ever get one of these kits and you have the opportunity: grab it because I don't think these kits will be available in stock for much longer because obviously Corsair seems to have stopped supplying or producing them just like GSkill.

Good luck.
 
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HydrAxx747

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Which SO-DIMM memory module kit are you using?
And if you ever want them to be really well cooled in sober, discreet and efficient ways: I use these small full copper heatsinks and graphene coating which are very easy to place thanks to their predisposed self-adhesive thermal pads at less than 2usd the heatsink:



Link: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000386208541.html

(They are available without inscriptions of the quantity of memory or else with engraved inscriptions: 4G, 8G or 16G.)
 
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Alucard

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It has a RAM kit of the same kind as mine: they are 2 RAM sticks from a Corsair Vengeance SO-DIMM 32GB (4x8GB) kit originally intended for Intel X299 platforms (for Core i9 series " XE") with a microITX motherboard with four SO-DIMM slots and operating in quad channel, hence the kits existing only with 4x8GB RAM sticks, these are rather rare to find and very expensive (it takes at least 400usd see more for one of these kits).

Corsair has released 3 variations of the same kit as they are all physically the same using "E0" SO-DIMM PCBs (the best for overclocking in this form factor) with sorted and binned 1GB Samsung "B-Die" chips for in obtain the best candidates, the three variants are:

1) CMSX32GX4M4X3600C16: 4X8GB kit clocked at 3600MHz and latencies 16-18-18-36-1T under 1.35v.

2) CMSX32GX4M4X3800C18: 4X8GB kit clocked at 3800MHz and latencies 18-19-19-39-1T under 1.35v.


3) CMSX32GX4M4X4000C19: 4X8GB kit clocked at 4000MHz and latencies 19-23-23-45-1T under 1.35v. <---- personally I was very lucky to come across this kit for sale on a site selling small ads for individuals, where the person was selling the kit for 240usd and I had even more luck when I I asked the person who sold them if they could only sell me a pair for 120usd and she accepted, moreover on my deskmini x300 perfectly holds the 4000MHz with synchronized InfinityFabric (2000MHz) and the latencies can be tightened without instability to 18-18-18-38-1T with the 1.35v of vdimm of course.


Otherwise, there is also GSkill which had released two other equivalents but they are harder to find because they are difficult to find because they have gone into "End of Life" status, but here are the references if you want to find out:

1)F4-3800C18Q-32GRS: 4X8GB kit clocked at 3800MHz and latencies 18-18-18-38-1T under 1.35v.
2)F4-4000C18Q-32GRS: 4X8GB kit clocked at 4000MHz and latencies 18-18-18-38-1T under 1.35v.


I put some links to official pages below, but if you ever get one of these kits and you have the opportunity: grab it because I don't think these kits will be available in stock for much longer because obviously Corsair seems to have stopped supplying or producing them just like GSkill.

Good luck.

Thank you for the eye-catching data, but since we're on DDR5 I wouldn't spend so much money on DDR4 memory if I didn't have to. You are a lucky man :)

I ordered the heatsinks! :) Thanks for the advice, and sorry for my bad English...
 

graziano68

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I hope it, 5700G is great , however 6000 series will have surely something more to run better AAA titles
 

yuusou

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If they do come, they most definitely will be AM4. AM5 starts at 7000 series. AMD have fortunately stopped messing around with mixing architecture and product names. Zen 3 is 5000, Zen3+ is 6000, Zen4 is 7000.
 

caseyatbt

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I just bought one of these and will probably get the 5600G. Is there any way to find out if the BIOS is at least 1.70 before I pick up the processor? I am not sure if it will let me update it if I get the 5600G and it is a lower rev.