Prototype DAN HSLP-48: A powerful sub 50mm heatsink

[friendscatdied]

The 90/92mm fan mount holes are built into the heatsink. I believe someone over on [H] had to file down the screwholes in order to get the NF-A12x15 to fit (and also had issues with the provided fan clips).

With a NF-A9x14 2200RPM/1.5W + Kryonaut on an open bench the Black Ridge appears to be able to hold the 9900K at ~90-92'C with a 155W load (Blender Classroom, 4.7GHz AVX with -30 VOffset [1.21v load]).

With a 92mm fan I think a 130-135W Long Duration Power Limit might be possible. The heatsink does a very good job of conducting and dissipating heat (gets warm to the touch) and as someone mentioned it takes a while to saturate the cooler, but it just doesn't have enough mass or surface area to be able to handle hot stuff for too long.

 

[Poblopuablo]

Just bought one from https://www.overclockers.co.uk/alpenfohn-black-ridge-low-profile-cpu-cooler-120mm-hs-05g-al.html
To the US. Cost ~58usd or ~€52 there were 2 left in stock as of the time of this posting.

 

[Demon Boy Jr]

Just got to putting mine together and damn the 120mm fan mounting system is a pain in the butt haha(For mounting the 120mm slim on the top side, not sure why mounting a 120mm slim to the bottom and 25mm on top clips are much easier to insert). Not sure why they thought threading a wire, through a tiny hole, through multtiple layers of fins was a good idea. The ends of the wires are too long and make it difficult to insert at an angle; they shouldve been half their length.

I actually don't plan to use this in the A4, I bought it just to test how it compares to the L12 and L12s in the Ghost S1. I'm pretty confidant the the L12 and L12s will cool better just from shear heatsink mass, but it'll be fun to test. I was actually trying to use 2x 120mm slim fans since I have VLP ram, but it doesn't look like there's an official way to do it so 92mm+120mm slim it is.

Also can confirm 92mm mounting holes interfere with the fan blades on the Noctua a12x15 when mounted on the bottom. Not a problem unless you're using VLP ram and plan to use a 120mm fan, but if you are you'll need to sand them down. Unfortunately I only own Noctua 120mm slim fans so I can't test if it inteferes with other fans. Not sure why the threads protrude out instead of being flush. Edit: I did some fiddling and after remounting the fan, it no longer hit the 92mm threads. It's very close though and i still stand by my statement that they should've been flush.

 

[friendscatdied]

I was really impressed with the Black Ridge in push-pull, but I was using a 25mm thick NF-F12 iPPC-2000 PWM fan up top (what Alpenfohn calls "overclocking mode") pushing down from the top and the NF-A9x14 in pull below.

On the same ~150W Blender Classroom run I was getting temperatures within 6-7'C of a NH-D15S with dual NF-A15s.

YMMV of course.

 

[jrasero]

I just got my Rev2 Black Ridge Cooler yesterday and installed it on my Z390 Phantom ITX board with no issues. I did swap out the stock fan which just felt super cheap with a slim Noctua 92mm.

However the cooler really isn't black and if you can tell in the photo there is a dark spot on the fins where it seems like some of the fins has been ever so slightly bent and some extra solder spilled onto? Also at the end of the heat pipes some extra solder is present. At the bottom I wasn't able to capture a photo but all 6 heat pipes seem properly soldered and show no gaps.

Are these imperfections just cosmetic?



Black Ridge Cooler Rev2

 

[Nanook]

I just got my Rev2 Black Ridge Cooler yesterday and installed it on my Z390 Phantom ITX board with no issues. I did swap out the stock fan which just felt super cheap with a slim Noctua 92mm.

However the cooler really isn't black and if you can tell in the photo there is a dark spot on the fins where it seems like some of the fins has been ever so slightly bent and some extra solder spilled onto? Also at the end of the heat pipes some extra solder is present. At the bottom I wasn't able to capture a photo but all 6 heat pipes seem properly soldered and show no gaps.

Are these imperfections just cosmetic?



Black Ridge Cooler Rev2

They look cosmetic to me, and shouldn't impact performance. It's up to you if you want to live with the "defect".

I got mine on Monday. I think the glossy black tint looks cool.

 

[jrasero]

They look cosmetic to me, and shouldn't impact performance. It's up to you if you want to live with the "defect".

I got mine on Monday. I think the glossy black tint looks cool.

is your this metallic/silver looking? Really there is nothing "Black" about this... As long as it cools properly it doesn't matter to me but I thought the black was supposed to help cool

 

[jrasero]

is your this metallic/silver looking? Really there is nothing "Black" about this... As long as it cools properly it doesn't matter to me but I thought the black was supposed to help cool

So I just called OverclockersUK and sent them my photos and they confirmed their whole stock has this light metallic color and the photos on their site is just photos are just 3D renders

 

[Nanook]

is your this metallic/silver looking? Really there is nothing "Black" about this... As long as it cools properly it doesn't matter to me but I thought the black was supposed to help cool

Yeah the v2 is shiny black tinted metallic looking, while the previos v1 was pitch black. I’m happy that the v2 heat pipes are fully in contact with the cpu block. My v1 had about several air gaps between the heat pipes and the blocks. Haven’t had a chance to test the v2 yet.

 

[Protools]

Hope sfflab can sell these

 

[hyperx09]

Hope sfflab can sell these

Same here. haha

 

[jrasero]

Hope sfflab can sell these

Same here. haha

I am not sure where you are located but OverclockerUK sells them, however they are currently out of stock. Shipped to NY it costed me $69 shipped which isn't cheap but in no ways crazy either for a niche cooler designed around the Dan Case which I plan to build in. Delivery took 3 days and the only hassle is that DHL requires a signature.

I personally have had mixed results with SFFLab and nothing IMO ships in 3 days with them... Granted they are the only place to my knowledge that carries the NCase M1. You can buy the Dan Case on Overclockers but it is currently on backorder until mid-end of May. My Dan Case from SFFLab shipped on 5/3/19 and I paid $25 for the basic 3-5 week shipping so it will be interesting to see if just waiting for Overclockers stock to be filled and having it shipped 3 days would be faster...

 

[scatterforce]

I bought one while Overclockers UK still had some in stock. ?

I plan to use a Noctua 120x15 underneath inside of a Dan-style case. Is there any word on which direction the air should go? Toward the PCB or Away from the PCB? If I recall, it was shown on an open test bench that down (toward the PCB) was better, but is this still true inside the case?

 

[Demon Boy Jr]

I bought one while Overclockers UK still had some in stock. ?

I plan to use a Noctua 120x15 underneath inside of a Dan-style case. Is there any word on which direction the air should go? Toward the PCB or Away from the PCB? If I recall, it was shown on an open test bench that down (toward the PCB) was better, but is this still true inside the case?

Towards pcb with IO shield off has proven best. Adding a shroud helps as well.

 

[Protools]

I am not sure where you are located but OverclockerUK sells them, however they are currently out of stock. Shipped to NY it costed me $69 shipped which isn't cheap but in no ways crazy either for a niche cooler designed around the Dan Case which I plan to build in. Delivery took 3 days and the only hassle is that DHL requires a signature.

I personally have had mixed results with SFFLab and nothing IMO ships in 3 days with them... Granted they are the only place to my knowledge that carries the NCase M1. You can buy the Dan Case on Overclockers but it is currently on backorder until mid-end of May. My Dan Case from SFFLab shipped on 5/3/19 and I paid $25 for the basic 3-5 week shipping so it will be interesting to see if just waiting for Overclockers stock to be filled and having it shipped 3 days would be faster...

Ive bought a ncase m1 and a s4mini from them. Im located in South Korea so shipping from either UK or whatever prob will be more expensive than sfflab which ships from Taiwan. Also would be nice to buy dan a4 and the cooler altogether.

 

[scatterforce]

Towards pcb with IO shield off has proven best. Adding a shroud helps as well.

Thank you for the tip!

Leaving the IO shield off goes against my PC-building instinct, but I'll cast it aside for the sake of better thermals and lower noise.

 

[HFoletto]

Hey, I'm kind of out of the loop, so I could really use some help.

Is this the best air cooler for the Dan Case A4-SFX?
I read that the v1 version didn't show much improvements over the Noctua L9.

Also, does it benefit from changing the fan to a Noctua NF A9x14 PWM?

Do we know when will it be back on stock again?

Thank you!

 

[scatterforce]

Hey, I'm kind of out of the loop, so I could really use some help.

Is this the best air cooler for the Dan Case A4-SFX?
I read that the v1 version didn't show much improvements over the Noctua L9.

Also, does it benefit from changing the fan to a Noctua NF A9x14 PWM?

Do we know when will it be back on stock again?

Thank you!

The V1 had a manufacturing defect where the heat pipes were not correctly soldered to the heat spreader, invalidating most testing results. With the included 90mm fan, the performance shouldn't be much better than the Noctua L9 (as I understand it).

To make this the best air cooler, you need to use the Noctua 120x15 fan paired with VLP ram. This is exactly what I'm going to do, but I don't have a way to test this right now. I won't have all the needed parts for likely a few more months. I snagged this early since I have no idea if/when they'll get more inventory.

As for swapping the fan, I would suggest using Thermalright 100mm Slim Fan as a replacement if you are not using VLP ram. It will align with the 90mm mounting holes and the slim side shouldn't interfere with LP ram. I believe that increasing the area the fan covers would do more for cooling than the NF A9x14 would do.

 

[friendscatdied]

It’s probably the best air cooler for the A4 when using a 120x15mm slim fan. The upcoming Cryorig C7G might be competitive but it’s hard to say until that’s released.

The 92mm configuration appears to be competitive with the NH-L9i + fan duct and better than the L9i without duct.

I’m actually not sure how the stock Alpenfohn 92mm performs/sounds or why people swap it out for the NF-A9x14. I believe the stock fan spinal up to 2800rpm (12-27% faster than the A9x14 variants) and it’s around 1mm thicker but I’ve no idea about CFM etc. It looks similar to the Akasa slim 92mm but not sure it’s the same fan.

 

[friendscatdied]

As for swapping the fan, I would suggest using Thermalright 100mm Slim Fan as a replacement if you are not using VLP ram. It will align with the 90mm mounting holes and the slim side shouldn't interfere with LP ram. I believe that increasing the area the fan covers would do more for cooling than the NF A9x14 would do.

This was my ambition but the TY-100 doesn’t allow the cooler to fit into the motherboard (ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ac), even in its narrowest 101mm width.

The stock 92mm fan frame is already very very close to touching the RAM heatspreaders (Corsair Vengeance LPX) on one side and the VRM heatsink on the other.

Depending on your motherboard it may be possible though, and it might work on the ASRock Z390 Phantom with naked headspreader-less DDR4 + removal of the VRM heatsink.