The GPU. The specs you reference are for the side radiator mount. Space is more limited between the GPU block and the top of the case.
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DAN C4-SFX
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Well, it is still not clear to me...
"Water cooling support: Dual 240 or 280mm radiator with 140x140x25mm fans"
Thats why I would like to know how much space exactly there is on both radiator mounts, i.e. maximum total thickness (rad + fan).
Simple really, the listed max config is for the side 280 radiator, so up to 70mm total thickness of radiator + fans in the side 280 bracket. Of course this will also depend on how tall the CPU block you will be using with fittings, and also reservoir.Well, it is still not clear to me...
"Water cooling support: Dual 240 or 280mm radiator with 140x140x25mm fans"
Thats why I would like to know how much space exactly there is on both radiator mounts, i.e. maximum total thickness (rad + fan).
For the top 280 radiator, you will only have room for up to 65mm for GPU Waterblock + Radiator + Fans. So assuming you have a single slot GPU waterblock, it would take around 20mm height, then the remaining 45mm would be for radiator and fan. You will be pretty much limited to slim 280 radiator + slim 140mm fans for the second 280 rad, like the Alphacool NexXxoS ST20 HPE 280mm slim 20mm radiator + 16mm Arctic P14 Slim PWM PST fans for example.
So it's just plain wrong in the OP, because there is no way of running dual 280 rads with 25mm thick fans.
Thanks for clearing that up
Unfortunately I'm not too excited about using Arctic fans - it's not that they're bad, but they don't have the outstanding life expectancy like, say, Noctua ones.
This is what I will go for:
Top Radiator: 1x Alphacool NexXxoS ST20 HPE Full Copper 280mm (link)
Top Rad Fans: 2x Arctic P14 Slim PWM PST (link)
Side Radiator: Alphacool NexXxoS HPE-30 Full Copper 280mm (link)
Side Rad Fans: 2x Noctua NF-A14 PWM (link)
Block/Pump/Reservoir Combo: EKWB Quantum Velocity2 Kinetic DDC 4.2 (not yet available, upcoming for AM5 and LGA1700 sockets - link)
+GPU Block of choice
+Tubing of choice (e.g. EK ZMT 16/10 or EK DuraClear 13/10)
+Liquid (I'll be using Aqua Computer DP Ultra)
+6 appropriate Fittings
Thanks for the list. Do you plan on doing quick connects for the side radiator or just having the tubes long enough so you can remove it if you need to?
And is there a big difference between manufacturer's of watercooling components? I looked at XSPC for their slim rads, alpahcool, EK.
Also, I have an ASUS TUF 3090 and I've searched for the shortest waterblocks, and the shortest one I was able to find was a Barrow one that was 142mm tall. Will that fit in the case? Or is it still to tall?
Well, since I did not yet get my hands on the case and my spatial imagination isn't the best, I won't make any final decisions before actually building my first system in a C4
Usually I prefer longer tubes over having additional connectors in the loop.
Of course there are huge price differences
EKWB, Watercool and Hardware Labs have a reputation of having really well built stuff (manufacturing wise), but personally the look and feel of Alphacool products is sufficient to me (when it comes to radiators). And yes, you can totally use XSPC, keep in mind their slim rads have a higher FPI (fins per inch) count than ACool for example, so use a fan with high static pressure (which is generally adviseable on radiators anyway...)
Just make sure to choose only 1 material that comes into contact with your cooling liquid to avoid heavy corrosion debris.
There is a post somewhere in this thread talking about max. GPU block dimension, feel free to search for it
If you know the waterblock height you have to add 35mm if this exceeds 166mm it will not fit.
To make it easier:
All RTX 30x0 Founders will work
All RTX 30x0 ref pcb cards should work (like Palit, Gainward, kfa2, colorful, pny, evga, inno3d &some zotac)
All RX 6800/6900 XT Reference will work
To make it easier:
All RTX 30x0 Founders will work
All RTX 30x0 ref pcb cards should work (like Palit, Gainward, kfa2, colorful, pny, evga, inno3d &some zotac)
All RX 6800/6900 XT Reference will work
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Arctic P-series fans have a 6-year warranty - same as Noctua.So it's just plain wrong in the OP, because there is no way of running dual 280 rads with 25mm thick fans.
Thanks for clearing that up
Unfortunately I'm not too excited about using Arctic fans - it's not that they're bad, but they don't have the outstanding life expectancy like, say, Noctua ones.
Scythe also makes slim Kaze Flex fans.
I have Arctic P14's in both the normal and slim versions that I would be using in the build. Those should be good for the radiators? The only issue is maybe their thickness. The full-size fan is 27mm thick, and the slim fan is 16mm thick.Well, since I did not yet get my hands on the case and my spatial imagination isn't the best, I won't make any final decisions before actually building my first system in a C4
Usually I prefer longer tubes over having additional connectors in the loop.
Of course there are huge price differences
EKWB, Watercool and Hardware Labs have a reputation of having really well built stuff (manufacturing wise), but personally the look and feel of Alphacool products is sufficient to me (when it comes to radiators). And yes, you can totally use XSPC, keep in mind their slim rads have a higher FPI (fins per inch) count than ACool for example, so use a fan with high static pressure (which is generally adviseable on radiators anyway...)
Just make sure to choose only 1 material that comes into contact with your cooling liquid to avoid heavy corrosion debris.
There is a post somewhere in this thread talking about max. GPU block dimension, feel free to search for it
Dan, can you explain why the added 35mm to the total height?
15mm PCIe fingers/edge connector
15mm Slot bracket overhang over fingers
5 mm side panels and tollerance
15mm Slot bracket overhang over fingers
5 mm side panels and tollerance
Yeah well, but the warranty time period does not directly cohere to the actual durability of a product
In my experience, Arctic fans do not last as long as Noctua ones do which makes them a worse choice, especially for a system retailer.
To my knowledge, these are not available in 140mm, right? Could not find a 140mm version on their EU site.
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Has there been any updates on this case? This would be my first SFF case and it looks like it would be great for someone new to SFF.
Daniel stated that when the C4 arrives, there will already be RTX4000 cards, so do not expect it to drop in the next 2 weeks
I personally assume it's gonna be Q1-2023 and that's fine with me.The very best first SFF case is the Coolermaster NR200 - affordable, really easy to build in and good performance.
Early Q4 resellers can preorder. Late Q4 shipping to customers.
Hi Dan, any updates on the Manual and pro photos? just been a long time
