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AM5 Launch – SFF Options

With the.. controversial.. launch of AMD’s AM5 platform, I thought it would be worth overviewing the SFF Motherboards available or previewed at the time of writing.

Available now: x670e

ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-I Gaming Wifi 6E

At US$469.99 at Newegg.com, the ASUS ROG STRIX….I give up… is the first M-ITX board available for the new AM5 platform. A feature packed board, with multiple protrusions as is the norm for this family of board. The chipset heatsink doubles as a M.2 SSD mount and heatsink. A “FPS-II” card is mounted at the front of the board, holding ports for the usual plethora of front panel ports and buttons. Yes, the FP_HEADER is on a daughterboard now.

Also included is the ROG STRIX HIVE (ASUS, seriously, stop with the capslock). This combination USB hub, DAC and overclocking control is a nifty feature – although I’d wager many users paying this much for a board will opt for their own DAC solution.

(Image source Newegg.com)

ASUS ROG CROSSHAIR X670E GENE mATX

For US$599.99 at Newegg.com, the first m-ATX board for AM5 also comes from ASUS

(Image source Newegg.com)

 

Coming Soon: B650(E)

ASRock B650E PG-ITX WiFi

Likely to be the cheapest AM5 M-ITX board available for a while, the ASRock B650E PG-ITX WiFi looks to be a more simple board than the above ASUS STRIX unit. (Not to mention the MUCH simpler name). No daughterboards here! Unfortunately the Chipset/M.2 drive heatsink fan is powered by a fan header at the top of the board, necessitating a  cable run alongside the RAM slots. Messy!

(Image source: VideoCardz)

GIGABYTE B650M AORUS Elite AX

A much better slot loadout than ASUS’s M-ATX board, with a second PCIe x16 slot (although it’s likely to be an x4 slot electrically). Also, twice the RAM slots versus the GENE board. Very nice! This configuration is a much better representation as to why M-ATX is my favourite form factor.

(Image source: VideoCardz)

GIGABYTE B650I AORUS Ultra

Gigabyte’s B650I AORUS Ultra looks like a nice, simple board, but unfortunately also includes a daughterboard configuration for the front panel IO headers and SATA. However, the two tone aesthetic appeals to me greatly!

(Image source: VideoCardz)

MSI MAG B650M MORTAR

A monotone colour scheme! Love it. An even more useful slot layout than the Gigabyte M-ATX board above – even if the second physical x16 slot appears to be an x1 electrically. Wait wait wait wait.. are those DUAL EPS 8 pin connectors at the top of the board? Eep!

(Image source: VideoCardz)

MSI PRO B650M-A WiFi

Appears to be the same board as above, with less heatsinks and an aesthetic makeover. Still has dual EPS connectors.

(Image source: VideoCardz)

MSI MPG B650I EDGE WiFi

A different concept on aesthetics than the competition, this much lighter colours configuration stands out. No daughterboards here, and a heatsink fan that doesn’t run a cable all the way across the motherboard. Much cleaner!

(Image source: VideoCardz)

 

 

 



ITX motherboards in that article as well, can't say I'm a fan (pun intended) of fans being back on the chipset / SSD cover. Gen 5 SSD's run hot so I guess they have to deal with that somehow !!!
 

wertzius

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Yes, very disappointing. No USB4, no multiple display outs (USB-C) and probably unremovable active coolers.
No further X670(E) boards in sight.
I hope there is one board where you can remove the heatsink to fit a large cooler.
 

Skripka

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MLID talked to a bunch of retailers....7000 is at best an average sell, and at worst parts/events aren't getting many takers. He claims that one Microcenter launch event had like 2 people show up. It might be the thermal/powers that are scaring off buyers--or simply how expensive the new platform is in its entirety (CPU/RAM/board)....also that whole global price inflation thing going on has tapped out most people paying bills.

Good (?) news for everyone....allegedly theCPUs and boards released so far have enough margin built into the price that there's room for partners to still make a profit when they do a sale....which given the lackluster interest in the Zen4 platform is getting more likely to be sooner rather than later. Although it needs noted that expectations are all screwed up from the pandemic where Zen3 went on sale and all SKUs were perennially out-of-stock for many months.

 

Skripka

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Le why Asrock ? Did that fan header have to be that far from the chipset fan ?

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ITX is getting mighty cramped, other than the CPU keep-out area. I'm wondering how much longer we're going to keep SATA ports around on middling/high tier gaming-focused boards when they're almost never used now. That right there is another fan header location.
 

Analogue Blacksheep

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I'm happy these boards exist even if they only have 1 M.2 slot. Two B650E M-ATX workstation boards from Gigabyte, look like the business.


 

Phuncz

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Le why Asrock ? Did that fan header have to be that far from the chipset fan ?

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I'm pretty sure that the requirement for a fan was a late change or they would have changed the PCB layout accordingly.
Or they figured most people would use a heatsink + fan for the CPU and underestimated AIO cooling being so dominant in the market.
 

Bioforce

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Good lord, $600 for the X670E GENE mATX. Hopefully we have some strong B650E mATX options for those of us who want PCIE 5.0 support for both the GPU and SSD but don't won't to blow that kind of money on just a mobo.
 
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rfarmer

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Good lord, $600 for the X670E GENE mATX. Hopefully we have some strong B650E mATX options for those of us who want PCIE 5.0 support for both the GPU and SSD but don't won't to blow that kind of money on just a mobo.
I was watching a review on that last night, nice board but OMG that price.
 

thelaughingman

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Good lord, $600 for the X670E GENE mATX. Hopefully we have some strong B650E mATX options for those of us who want PCIE 5.0 support for both the GPU and SSD but don't won't to blow that kind of money on just a mobo.

I was watching a review on that last night, nice board but OMG that price.
This Gene is literally last gen Impact on Steroid x10, and it's meant for LN2 overclocking anyways, not SFF
 
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ROG Strix B650E-I Gaming WiFi looks good​

You can bet Asus will add their usual tax to this and it will be 300 dollars + (if not more), but if I was building an X3D rig this would be prime candidate from the boards I've seen so far.
 
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wertzius

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Also my favorite - TB4/USB4 and it seems it does not have a complete heatsink monstrosity on the M.2.
 

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