News AMD B650 motherboards are coming

Sixteen AMD B650E/B650 motherboards for Ryzen 7000 CPUs have been leaked - VideoCardz.com

AMD B650 motherboards are coming According to early sales data, retailers are seeing smaller interest in Ryzen 7/5 7000 models. The X670E and X670 boards are expensive to say the least, and that’s without including the cost of Ryzen 7000 CPU and DDR5 memory upgrade. However, there are new...

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ITX motherboards in that article as well, can't say I'm a fan (pun intended) of fans being back on the chipset / SSD cover. Gen 5 SSD's run hot so I guess they have to deal with that somehow !!!

 

[Bioforce]

Biostar B650-E M-ATX board, B650EGTQ

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Looks pretty solid, has a USB 3.2 2x2 slot on the back and has room for 3 M.2's.

I'm curious though, why does all the documentation say it's ATX and not mATX? For dimensions it lists 24.4cm x 24.4 cm, which is correct for mATX, but nothing actually says it's micro ATX explicitly.

 

[Analogue Blacksheep]

I'm curious though, why does all the documentation say it's ATX and not mATX? For dimensions it lists 24.4cm x 24.4 cm, which is correct for mATX, but nothing actually says it's micro ATX explicitly.

Yeah I noticed that as well. The board seems to come up as well when you search "ATX", but not "M-ATX". Website error I guess?

*edit* - Just had a look through the manual, it's listed as u-ATX.

 

[Valantar]

For the life of me I can't understand why they keep using these cast aluminium blocks on the VRMs rather than far, far superior heatpipe+fin arrays. Yes, the latter is more expensive, but given ballooning aluminium costs that difference is likely to be negligible these days, and especially on $250+ motherboards another $1 on the BOM isn't going to make much of a difference. If they just went that way they could make the VRM heatsinks so much smaller and less restrictive.

 

[GuilleAcoustic]

For the life of me I can't understand why they keep using these cast aluminium blocks on the VRMs rather than far, far superior heatpipe+fin arrays. Yes, the latter is more expensive, but given ballooning aluminium costs that difference is likely to be negligible these days, and especially on $250+ motherboards another $1 on the BOM isn't going to make much of a difference. If they just went that way they could make the VRM heatsinks so much smaller and less restrictive.

I've been having the exact same discution with the team a few days ago. I feel less alone now

 

[Analogue Blacksheep]

For the life of me I can't understand why they keep using these cast aluminium blocks on the VRMs rather than far, far superior heatpipe+fin arrays. Yes, the latter is more expensive, but given ballooning aluminium costs that difference is likely to be negligible these days, and especially on $250+ motherboards another $1 on the BOM isn't going to make much of a difference. If they just went that way they could make the VRM heatsinks so much smaller and less restrictive.

Aesthetic™

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Seriously though, I think it makes the borad seem more premium/expensive then it actually is. That's the reason why I like the look of those Gigabyte MC13-LE1 B650-E boards or server boards in general. Focuses on what matters.

 

[GuilleAcoustic]

Heatpipes and fin stacks looked better IMHO....

 

[Solo]

Dude, the aluminum slabs over the M.2 slots...

ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)

 

[GuilleAcoustic]

 

[wertzius]

To sum up the differences of ITX options (all have 160MHz WIFI 6E and 2.5G Ethernet - German prices including VAT):

	GPU PCIe	M.2	Sound	USB specialities	Remarks	Verdict
ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-I​ around 530 Euro (Cashback)​	PCIe 5.0	1x PCIe 5.0 1x PCIe 4.0 stacked in an absurdely high tower	No internal - no front headers External ALC 4050 +ESS® SABRE9260Q DAC	2x USB4/TB4 incl. display out	1x fan for VRM 1x fan for M.2/chipset External ROG HIVE with audio and a flex button daughterboard for SATA and front headers	Highendboard for TB4 lovers who want an AIO anyway - large air coolers do not fit - loses 1 M.2 slot if the heatsink gets dismantled
ASUS ROG Strix B650E-I​ around 385 Euro (Cashback)	PCIe 5.0	1x PCIe 5.0 on the front, high tower 1x PCIe 4.0 backside active cooling for PCIe 5.0	Realtek ALC 4080 Savitech SV3H712 AMP	1x USB-C 3.2 GEN 2 with display out on panel	1x fan for VRM 1x fan for M.2/chipset	Highendboard for all who do not need TB4 but want USB-C with display out and internal audio with proper AMP - might be problematic for big aircoolers
ASRock B650E PG-ITX around 380 Euro	PCIe 5.0	1x PCIe 5.0 upside with high heatsink and fan on top - effortlessly removable 1x PCIe 4.0 underside	Realtek ALC 4220	-	1x fan for M.2 - removable	Should be the best selling board with no real deficiencies besides no USB-C display out and no BIOS flashback
MSI MPG B650I EDGE around 290 Euro	PCIe 4.0	1x PCIe 4.0 upside - active cooling - effortlessly removable 1x PCIe 4.0 downside	Realtek ALC 4080	-	1x fan for M.2 - removable	Cheapest option for all who do not need PCIe 5.0 now
GIGABYTE B650I AORUS Ultra - around 330 Euro?	PCIe 4.0	1x PCIe 5.0 + 1x PCIe 4.0 front with high heatsink and fan on top - heatsink and fan easily removable - M.2 slots on daughterboard 1x PCIe 4.0 back	Realtek ALC 4080	1x USB-C Gen 3.2 Gen2 with display out on panel	1x M.2 fan on stacked M.2 tower daughterboard for SATA and front headers - theoretically removable - additional PW switch Jumper on mainboard daughterboard for 2. M.2 on front - theoretically removable to get more space	Only board with 3x. M.2 and 3x display out on board - including 1x DP and 1x USB-C with DP ALT Mode might be problematic for big aircoolers

 

[Phuncz]

Yeah I'm going to keep my AM4 platform for a while. I don't need to waste € 1.000 for two digit percent performance increase.

 

[GuilleAcoustic]

The Asus B650E-I is a 400€ board and the MSI B650I Edge is 300€ (and is limited to gen4 PCIe only) ...

 

[Legion]

The Asus B650E-I is a 400€ board and the MSI B650I Edge is 300€ (and is limited to gen4 PCIe only) ...

I did say Asus would charge heavily for this when I posted it earlier in the thread, I'm genuinely not surprised at the price tag,
Safe to say though, AMD are the new Intel lol
Sales of it are terrible.
There will be a price cut. Q1 most likely.
Early adopters of this for gaming are out and out mugs, I can understand Prosumers wanting the uplift.

 

[wertzius]

@Legion There is a cashback offer for the ASUS boards 45-50 Euro Cashback for the boards until 15.11.

 

[THUMPer]

Excellent find. I'm gonna bookmark that one for sure.

I saw this too and was interested. But this other Biostar board didnt get a great review.

BIOSTAR X670E VALKYRIE Review

Featuring a top of the line 18+2+2 VRM using 105 A power stages, DDR5 support, PCIe Gen5 support, dual M.2 Gen5 sockets and loads of high-speed USB ports, the BIOSTAR X670E VALKYRIE is ready for you! Come along as we dig into this motherboard review to uncover all the secrets the new AM5...

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I'll be shooting for a Gigabyte B650M Aorus Pro AX.

 

[wertzius]

Updated the ITX table and corrected some errors.

 

[Valantar]

The Asus B650E-I is a 400€ board and the MSI B650I Edge is 300€ (and is limited to gen4 PCIe only) ...

It's not like PCIe 5 will matter whatsoever to consumers in the next decade though. Sure, storage benchmarks will look worse, but not realistic GPU will be limited by PCIe 4, and real-world storage performance in actual usage doesn't even saturate PCIe 3x4. We need flash with better random performance to get any further, and that doesn't seem to be on the horizon.

 

[Analogue Blacksheep]

Overview of the Biostar B650-E M-ATX board from Enterbox. Has an in-depth teardown of the board.

 

[Skripka]

Overview of the Biostar B650-E M-ATX board from Enterbox. Has an in-depth teardown of the board.

There is a special place in hell for partners who put the CMOS battery underneath bolted-on heatsinks.

 

[Analogue Blacksheep]

There is a special place in hell for partners who put the CMOS battery underneath bolted-on heatsinks.

Yikes, did not notice that until now.

 

[wertzius]

Because you have to change it in like 8 years?