Production Sliger SM550/560/570/580 (2 and 3 slot riser layouts, with air and liquid cooling variants)

[ermac318]

Yes, the price is high, but I feel that Sliger is honestly doing a great service to the SFF market with this line-up.

I hope my comment wasn't taken in the wrong way, I absolutely agree 100% with you that Sliger is doing God's work here and trying to please as many people as possible with this line up of cases. It's awesome to participate and see it evolve, and I've been showing this thread to a lot of friends who are super excited by the case. Looking at the builds hitting the front page of the SFFPC subreddit shows that lots of other people are interested too, and that's awesome!

For my particular use case (10GbE as you suspected), I agree its hard to find something that fits, except maybe something super awkward like the Maximum XI Gene in the NCASE M1 (which has its own long list of problems). I'm hoping there will be AM4 mITX boards with >1GbE options this summer, but if that fails then this (as you correctly pointed out) is one of the few, if not only, good options out there, and huge Kudos to Sliger for his work on making all this happen!

 

[Tazpr]

Any chance of some side by side pics (or renders) of the SM550 vs the SM570, going from 10L to 15L seems like a big jump but I keep trying to tell myself the extra space isn't actually that much more.

It's mainly vertical space, width and length are only 10-20mm more respectively however there is quite a bit more height to the 570 which you're less likely to notice as it doesn't increase the footprint of the case much at all.

I feel like the extra 20mm in length and 10mm in width is something you wouldn't notice.

 

[zzmadd]

On page one the SM550 is priced $ 180, on the actual selling page is priced $ 190.
Why is that?

 

[wsgroves]

I am fine with the prices for the upcoming cases. Although I won't use the handle, it is a good add in.
I do have a legit question, that isn't intended to be a smart-arse one either. How do some of these smaller case makers get tempered glass in their enclosure? I know you said it's crazy expensive, and I have no doubt about that but I am curious as to how others offer it.
I am asking because I would love to have that option on your cases, regardless of cost. I love them enough that I would be willing to probably spend the difference.
I know I could get it done locally, and I may, but that's just more steps and a pita.

 

[rjeftw]

Is anyone running an 8700K in a 550/560, kinda curious on heatsink/temps? Might update one of my ITX machines.

 

[raulnorry]

I am fine with the prices for the upcoming cases. Although I won't use the handle, it is a good add in.
I do have a legit question, that isn't intended to be a smart-arse one either. How do some of these smaller case makers get tempered glass in their enclosure? I know you said it's crazy expensive, and I have no doubt about that but I am curious as to how others offer it.
I am asking because I would love to have that option on your cases, regardless of cost. I love them enough that I would be willing to probably spend the difference.
I know I could get it done locally, and I may, but that's just more steps and a pita.

From what @KSliger has said in the past, most of the TG in computer cases comes from China in order to be affordable. Sliger feels strongly about their products being made and sourced in the US and (IIRC) refuses to compromise that integrity by outsourcing.

 

[ermac318]

most of the TG in computer cases comes from China

Most of the Tempered Glass comes from a single factory in China.

 

[Talyrius]

Going with acrylic as opposed to tempered glass is a compromise in quality. I'd consider that the bigger compromise.

 

[Allhopeforhumanity]

Going with acrylic as opposed to tempered glass is a compromise in quality. I'd consider that the bigger compromise.

He said in the other thread that they wanted $50/pane with a 2K unit order. Acrylic may not be as high quality but adding $50-100 per chassis for glass alone is a sure fire way to cripple sales volume.

 

[KSliger]

I am fine with the prices for the upcoming cases. Although I won't use the handle, it is a good add in.
I do have a legit question, that isn't intended to be a smart-arse one either. How do some of these smaller case makers get tempered glass in their enclosure? I know you said it's crazy expensive, and I have no doubt about that but I am curious as to how others offer it.
I am asking because I would love to have that option on your cases, regardless of cost. I love them enough that I would be willing to probably spend the difference.
I know I could get it done locally, and I may, but that's just more steps and a pita.

If the case is being made in China that is probably how. US glass makers are all architectural stuff.

Going with acrylic as opposed to tempered glass is a compromise in quality. I'd consider that the bigger compromise.

It's a price problem.

It also takes an element of the supply chain out of our control. This is the problem we had with the wood tops, quality wasn't what we wanted, price was too high, and the quality aspect of it wasn't worth the cost.

Last thing is that these cases are designed for a handle. A manufacturer endorsing both a glass window and frequently moving the case around is a warranty nightmare. This is the reason we went with the impact modified acrylic, someone bashes their case against something it won't break, will bounce off, and will protect your parts. Then we can replace the window insert for cheap.

Glass is great for cases that are more like nice furniture.

He said in the other thread that they wanted $50/pane with a 2K unit order. Acrylic may not be as high quality but adding $50-100 per chassis for glass alone is a sure fire way to cripple sales volume.

The panel is $50 our cost too at that, it winds up $75~$85 your cost once it is shipped to us, handled and assembled to a case, warranty costs factored in, etc. effectively doubles the price of the case for a double window case.

If the glass was like $20ish a pane we'd have gone with it.

Most of the Tempered Glass comes from a single factory in China.

LOL, well this explains it then.

Is anyone running an 8700K in a 550/560, kinda curious on heatsink/temps? Might update one of my ITX machines.

I have people who have emailed me that are. What do you have planned for heat sink / side panels?

On page one the SM550 is priced $ 180, on the actual selling page is priced $ 190.
Why is that?

We upped the base price to $190 and got rid of the $5 surcharge per window or vented panels. Was annoying some people.

 

[wsgroves]

From what @KSliger has said in the past, most of the TG in computer cases comes from China in order to be affordable. Sliger feels strongly about their products being made and sourced in the US and (IIRC) refuses to compromise that integrity by outsourcing.

Yea I know that I was said. I was curious as how other smaller manufactures get it and that makes sense: their cases are made in China.
@KSliger hey, my case is nice furniture lol. On a related note, I think people are crazy to want to move a case with acrylic all over the place and take it with them. I don't see that lasting too long.
About the TG, I still would love to have an option. Hell, I would even buy it from you as a DIY , install yourself option. Maybe I am in the minority. If I had the change to get side panels from you, I would pay the 80$ or whatever. Just a thought.
I rather give you business, even if it costs a bit more on my end, than give it to someone in China directly. That's what loyal customers do.
@rjeftw I don't have a 8700k but I would assume it would be relatively close to a 2700x in those regards. Although, I would make sure to delid it.

 

[JaPeMo]

QUICK SM570/SM580 QUESTIONNAIRE

Would the SM580 at $245 with the handle included be an acceptable price? (side panels either window or solid or mix of both)

Would the SM570 at $225 with the handle included be an acceptable price? (side panels either window or solid or mix of both)

Comparable to SM580 is Cerberus at $270 with window on one side and handle included, and to SM570 is the M1 with window panel and no handle option at $195.

Trying to get volumes on the handles up, and include that more premium option at a discount to offset the higher cost elsewhere.

I have a Raijintek Ophion EVO and a few days ago I'm planning a revision of my equipment, and I was contemplating installing an AIO 280 upstairs and 2x140 fans downstairs, that's right, modifying the box.

Yes, Ophion requires mod. But I dont know SM 5X0 cases...

When I saw this project I was very excited, don't need mod and have 3 GPU slots, but price calculations make it prohibitive and difficult to buy...

Well, I like much SM580, but $245+ $53 (this morning was $45) ship to Spain + TAXES (minimum 40€ or 50€).... Between $340 or 350, minimum... It is expensive...

I'm quite sad, because I really love this box.

 

[FoskcoRS5]

I have a Raijintek Ophion EVO and a few days ago I'm planning a revision of my equipment, and I was contemplating installing an AIO 280 upstairs and 2x140 fans downstairs, that's right, modifying the box.

Yes, Ophion requires mod. But I dont know SM 5X0 cases...

When I saw this project I was very excited, don't need mod and have 3 GPU slots, but price calculations make it prohibitive and difficult to buy...

Well, I like much SM580, but $245+ $53 (this morning was $45) ship to Spain + TAXES (minimum 40€ or 50€).... Between $340 or 350, minimum... It is expensive...

I'm quite sad, because I really love this box.

If only Sliger could mass produce these in China with flimsy sheet metal and plastic like Raijintek then they could price them more competitively.

 

[wsgroves]

@FoskcoRS5 no doubt the case fit and finish is top notch.

Here are a few more pictures. This is my final build setup for now.
Wonderful case.

 

[KSliger]

@FoskcoRS5 no doubt the case fit and finish is top notch.

Here are a few more pictures. This is my final build setup for now.
Wonderful case.

That doesn't look like finger prints, looks like some sort of residue collecting dust - possibly from the protective coating?
I would run the panels in the dishwasher if you want to get that off. Will not hurt the window or the sheet metal.

Great pictures though the case looks awesome with your LEDs and color scheme!

 

[wsgroves]

@KSliger thanks a lot. I love it.
I will try that. I know the cover is not on it. Can see better in the light pictures.
As far as the strips go, they are crazy bright and vivid. That is like 10% power haha.

 

[Nanook]

@FoskcoRS5 no doubt the case fit and finish is top notch.

Here are a few more pictures. This is my final build setup for now.
Wonderful case.

I recommend Novus acrylic cleaner. It cleans the window very well, and more importantly, prevent dust from clinging on the interior of the window.

 

[HoosCharles]

@FoskcoRS5 no doubt the case fit and finish is top notch.

Here are a few more pictures. This is my final build setup for now.
Wonderful case.

Beautiful build! Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but what sort of temps do you see with it under load? I'm still debating whether I should go with two window panels, or just window for the gpu and vented for the cpu. All for a ryzen 2600 and evga rtx 2080 build.

 

[JaPeMo]

If only Sliger could mass produce these in China with flimsy sheet metal and plastic like Raijintek then they could price them more competitively.

Hi FoskcoRS5.

I dont know if you have a Ophion, but I have one. And structure have a good finished materiales. Dont have plastics,...

I know that is diferent production...

 

[JaPeMo]

@FoskcoRS5 no doubt the case fit and finish is top notch.

Here are a few more pictures. This is my final build setup for now.
Wonderful case.

Congrats buy your built!!! Be cool...

What temps you have with acrilico panels?