Prototyping Sidearmd T1, CNC + AIO + 9.35L

prava

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Mar 21, 2017
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^ This.

Mesh is great – for filtering. As rendered above the Sidearm is now just a frame with screen doors. I choose to put components into a case for protection and noise isolation; it appears the base model will accomplish neither well.

What's going on, is the CNC making it difficult to hit the price point? Put me down as waiting for real side panels, thanks.
My take? He is having QA problems with the side panels at the hole size & pattern that he is aiming for; delays with I/O and other problems with colours. And thus a base model with mesh, in black, and without I/O.
 

JayRello

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Jul 1, 2019
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I'm fine with the base model because I prefer black anyways. I'm fine with the mesh also. If their will be upgrades for windowed panels at purchase or in the future I'm in on that too. I just want a cool looking sff case that's compact, 3 slots, and has room for a 240mm rad. This is it!
 

schn1tt3r

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Sep 24, 2018
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It would be wonderful to get any version this year, but did I read right that this year there would only be very very few available?
 
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Navic

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Jan 6, 2019
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If I can get the base model this year, but have an upgrade kit of some sort to get the more premium aluminum side panels, I'd be fine with that.
 
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Wahaha360

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This is the current *plan, things happens, so can't promise
Year 2019:
- $200 Black *base version, Ultrafine Mesh Side Panels, NO I/O, August 2019 if Quality Control perfect, most likely September 2019
- $240 Two Tone Version, Tempered Glass Side Panel (SFX fan facing inside the case), I/O, December 2019

Year 2020:
- Silver Aluminum Side Panels with holes
- Black Aluminum Side panels with holes
- Silver Ultrafine Mesh Side Panels
- Black I/O Front Lid for Black *base version
- Silver NO I/O Front Lid for Two Tone version

Some of you will notice that the Two Tone version with TG Side Panels should make temperature worse, and you will be correct. This is why I added 240x25mm thick radiator support so you can still get <85C with TG keeping CPU OC < 160W. For those of you that want to mix different Side Panels types, you can in 2020.
 
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Wahaha360

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I like the mesh idea, I didn't see the indent while I was on the phone. I wish it was all flat, on both sides.
I’m concerned about the strength of the mesh side panels. I do like how they look with the black version, but the case first appealed to me because of the thick CNC aluminum. It looks like a very structurally strong case but the mesh probably won’t protect the components as well as aluminum. Also as prava indicated above, it breaks from the design a bit.
I would be concerned about the strength of the mesh protecting my hardware.
Mesh is great – for filtering. As rendered above the Sidearm is now just a frame with screen doors. I choose to put components into a case for protection and noise isolation; it appears the base model will accomplish neither well.

What's going on, is the CNC making it difficult to hit the price point? Put me down as waiting for real side panels, thanks.
The Ultrafine Mesh is made of 1mm steel. The indent is die stamped to give it more strength. While it will not be as stiff as the rest of the CNC case, we expect it to be comparable to 2mm Aluminum Side Panels. 1mm steel is pretty strong, the weight is equivalent to 3mm thick aluminum, and it's die stamped to reduce flex.

How are they attached? magnet? screws? Easy to pop them off and blow off the dust? and still able align it back into place?
The Side Panels are slotted in like the image below:


I think I see a frame on the inside of the mesh? Is it translucent?
One of the reasons we chose mesh is due to it's semi-transparent property. This allows people to see parts of their components - GPU, Mobo, SFX.

The extra airflow is obviously a plus for people on air cooling.
 

chinyang

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Oct 17, 2018
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After the long long wait for C4, to see this coming into production soon is really exciting news 👍
Just cant wait to get one no matter what the variant is
 
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gwertheim

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@chyll2 @chinyang @Wildmongoose @Metroversal @Brude27 @JayRello @sffman @prava @PBJ @GerryMz @Beardedswede @Bonusround @schn1tt3r @Navic

This is the current *plan, things happens, so can't promise
Year 2019:
- $200 Black *base version, Ultrafine Mesh Side Panels, NO I/O, August 2019 if Quality Control perfect, most likely September 2019
- $240 Two Tone Version, Tempered Glass Side Panel (SFX fan facing inside the case), I/O, December 2019

Year 2020:
- Silver Aluminum Side Panels with holes
- Black Aluminum Side panels with holes
- Silver Ultrafine Mesh Side Panels
- Black I/O Front Lid for Black *base version
- Silver NO I/O Front Lid for Two Tone version

Some of you will notice that the Two Tone version with TG Side Panels should make temperature worse, and you will be correct. This is why I added 240x25mm thick radiator support so you can still get <85C with TG keeping CPU OC < 160W. For those of you that want to mix different Side Panels types, you can in 2020.
Great things coming in 2020, going to wait until then to get a case, not interested in TG panels.
 

schn1tt3r

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Sep 24, 2018
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So, is the eisbear 240 the only 240 AIO that will fit? I've tried searching everywhere, but it's not available in USA stores.
 

thobart

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Mar 15, 2019
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So, is the eisbear 240 the only 240 AIO that will fit? I've tried searching everywhere, but it's not available in USA stores.
I am in US and tried buying through Grooves. Arrived in a few weeks and works flawlessly.
 
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Demon Boy Jr

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So, is the eisbear 240 the only 240 AIO that will fit? I've tried searching everywhere, but it's not available in USA stores.
I bought mine from Overclockers UK, they ship to the US and very quickly. Was 3 buisness days to California.


@chyll2 @chinyang @Wildmongoose @Metroversal @Brude27 @JayRello @sffman @prava @PBJ @GerryMz @Beardedswede @Bonusround @schn1tt3r @Navic

This is the current *plan, things happens, so can't promise
Year 2019:
- $200 Black *base version, Ultrafine Mesh Side Panels, NO I/O, August 2019 if Quality Control perfect, most likely September 2019
- $240 Two Tone Version, Tempered Glass Side Panel (SFX fan facing inside the case), I/O, December 2019

Year 2020:
- Silver Aluminum Side Panels with holes
- Black Aluminum Side panels with holes
- Silver Ultrafine Mesh Side Panels
- Black I/O Front Lid for Black *base version
- Silver NO I/O Front Lid for Two Tone version

Some of you will notice that the Two Tone version with TG Side Panels should make temperature worse, and you will be correct. This is why I added 240x25mm thick radiator support so you can still get <85C with TG keeping CPU OC < 160W. For those of you that want to mix different Side Panels types, you can in 2020.
Oh man, that feeling when I prefer the no I/O of the Black, but prefer the look of the Two Tone. Mostly indefferent of the panels since I'd ideally buy all the variations(if that's an option). I think I'm leaning towards two tone since I already have a Black Ncase, Black Ghost S1, and Black SG13, but it feels weird having to buy a new front panel if that even becomes an option. First world problems haha. I assume I can at least remove all the cables and hardware associated with the I/O of the two tone even if it leaves holes in the fame?
 
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PBJ

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- $240 Two Tone Version, Tempered Glass Side Panel (SFX fan facing inside the case), I/O, December 2019
Can the SFX fan be oriented towards the side panel, or is the position fixed facing inside the case?

I know it was mentioned previously it could be oriented both ways, but want to know if its changed.
 

gwertheim

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I bought mine from Overclockers UK, they ship to the US and very quickly. Was 3 buisness days to California.




Oh man, that feeling when I prefer the no I/O of the Black, but prefer the look of the Two Tone. Mostly indefferent of the panels since I'd ideally buy all the variations(if that's an option). I think I'm leaning towards two tone since I already have a Black Ncase, Black Ghost S1, and Black SG13, but it feels weird having to buy a new front panel if that even becomes an option. First world problems haha. I assume I can at least remove all the cables and hardware associated with the I/O of the two tone even if it leaves holes in the fame?
If you ask REALLY NICE, maybe a nice Canadian (like me) can buy it and send it south of the border


 

Wahaha360

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@Wahaha360 What are the exact dimensions of the GPU area? As i need to know if it'll fit a 1080 Ti Hall of Fame edition please.
2 or 3 slots, no more than 320mm long, 140mm tall.

3 slot GPUs longer than 300 may limit full loop WC fitting options, just FYI.
 
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Wahaha360

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Can the SFX fan be oriented towards the side panel, or is the position fixed facing inside the case?

I know it was mentioned previously it could be oriented both ways, but want to know if its changed.
SFX Bracket allows the PSU fan to be oriented towards inside the case or outside the case.

Flip SFX Bracket flips the SFX 180 degrees (SFX exhaust / C13 inlet towards radiator), the PSU fan can be oriented towards inside or outside the case also.