new or used? If they are used, I heavily suspect they are just unloading mined cards
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new or used? If they are used, I heavily suspect they are just unloading mined cards
New, at least it was for me. Mine came from a store that is TMall and official reseller of MSI, whereas most of the stores are reputable enough with a number of years and have good reviews.
Of course, there still is a risk element that there is a chance that the vendors are unscrupulous, and most of itx cards appeared only after the mining ban in China, and your warranty/RMA will have to be handled most likely in Chinese too.
It's a judgement call and one's risk appetite, should one want to get a GPU off taobao. Actually, come to think about it, pretty much a lot of items of taobao too.
5700XT. So basically a sidestep in performance but this is to go into most likely a J Hack Pure XL which the 5700XT would not fit into. At least it's probably not going to cost me anything once i've sold the old card.
But it is currently the fastest ITX card money can buy, at least until the MSI 3060Ti stops being vaporware.
Other hardware, for those interested:
3700X
Crosshair VIII Impact
32GB 8Pack DDR4-3600 (2x16GB)
Intel 600p 1TB
AMD Wraith Stealth cooler
Corsair SF750 (fans don't even spin up under load anymore)
Sugo SG13 w/USB-C front panel
But it is currently the fastest ITX card money can buy, at least until the MSI 3060Ti stops being vaporware.
Other hardware, for those interested:
3700X
Crosshair VIII Impact
32GB 8Pack DDR4-3600 (2x16GB)
Intel 600p 1TB
AMD Wraith Stealth cooler
Corsair SF750 (fans don't even spin up under load anymore)
Sugo SG13 w/USB-C front panel
It's noisier than my 5700XT, but it's rocking half the amount of fans. I still wouldn't call it annoying though, or even that noticable.
Raytracing performance however, just sucks. Had a bash on Doom Eternal which it happily locks at 144Hz 1440p max details, but enabling RT knocks the performance down under 20FPS, rendering it unplayable. Even using dynamic resolution scaling the game is constantly struggling to keep itself at 60fps and the textures look crap.
Same deal with Quake 2 RTX. If I run it at 720p I can get close to 60fps with RT enabled, at 1440p i'm down under 20fps again.
However I didn't buy it for it's ray tracing, I bought it to be a pocket rocket at ITX sizes, and that it manages really well. In pure rasterising it's actually probably a little faster than my 5700XT (i'd say close to 2080 performance) and it's sucking around 100W less out of my PSU.
I'm more than happy. I'm not sure i'd recommend it at it's current price point as it's edging very close to £500 here in the UK. I got mine almost £100 less than that by pre-ordering at release and being patient.
Raytracing performance however, just sucks. Had a bash on Doom Eternal which it happily locks at 144Hz 1440p max details, but enabling RT knocks the performance down under 20FPS, rendering it unplayable. Even using dynamic resolution scaling the game is constantly struggling to keep itself at 60fps and the textures look crap.
Same deal with Quake 2 RTX. If I run it at 720p I can get close to 60fps with RT enabled, at 1440p i'm down under 20fps again.
However I didn't buy it for it's ray tracing, I bought it to be a pocket rocket at ITX sizes, and that it manages really well. In pure rasterising it's actually probably a little faster than my 5700XT (i'd say close to 2080 performance) and it's sucking around 100W less out of my PSU.
I'm more than happy. I'm not sure i'd recommend it at it's current price point as it's edging very close to £500 here in the UK. I got mine almost £100 less than that by pre-ordering at release and being patient.
That's good to know. Single fan cards are always quite noisy, even the Aero ITX at above 70% fan speeds.
The 6600XT seems like it is very power efficient too.
Ray Tracing is probably still out of the AMD's league (for now), even with my 6800XT @ 3440x1440 Ultrawide, frames will take a serious hit. Maybe with next generations, it will be better. At the significant price increase too, I reckon.
It’s just a bit annoying having the RT hardware present on the chip but knowing that any attempt to utilise it results in poor performance.
Maybe FXSR can be updated to use it in the future.
I was wrong - if you don't hit it with work that uses the RT cores it's silent in operation. Very happy!
Now I just need a case that can take advantage of it's form factor. Any suggestions for something riserless but hopefully sub-8L? From looking it's basically the J Hack or the Lazer3D?
Now I just need a case that can take advantage of it's form factor. Any suggestions for something riserless but hopefully sub-8L? From looking it's basically the J Hack or the Lazer3D?
Some other options, but they might not all be so easy to acquire: HG Osmi, Colinreay's MK2, SGPC K60, Jonsbo T8
User feedback about the 6600XT CLI is that it's pretty much silent and runs around 50Cto 70C while gaming, and is pretty power efficient too.
Colinreay MK2 & SGPC K60 are unfortunately OOP, Jonsbo T8 & SGPC K69 are hotboxes from what I read. Mechanic Master C24, Sirius T70, Acat 3 v2.0 if you don't mind above 8L but below 10L cases.
Not much choices left, if you want below 8L and without a riser, unfortunately. And I have been doing some research looking for more cases that might fit.
I personally own a Lazer3D LZX-8, so I am pretty biased, but I like the case and it is very well ventilated. The LZ7 would be smaller and would perform just as well as it's bigger case. Downsides is pretty dependent on what your views are on acyclic panels. There is an upcoming case that the creators have let me in on, the Smol X1, that I am waiting for a prototype to arrive for some testing!
If you are open to the world of Taobao, some options open up like this , is 6.4L, can have a tower cooler up to 113mm, up to 5 fan mounts (3x 9015, 2x 6025) and uses a SFX PSU. Personally am interested in it, but only comes in silver though and I prefer a black case.
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I was thinking something along the lines of the CCD MI-6 aesthetic without the riser. On that basis the Colinreay looks absolutely ideal. From having a read it doesn't look like he's going to do another production run sadly.
And that X64 looks like someone refurbished a load of B-grade cheese graters into a case.
Is there nothing on the Lian-Li side of things that might work? They used to make all sorts of absolutely oddball cases, but it looks like when they discontinue a model it's deleted from their website, meaning that the only ITX cases they list on there are the TU-150 and the O11 Mini (NOT SMALL FORM FACTOR).
And that X64 looks like someone refurbished a load of B-grade cheese graters into a case.
Is there nothing on the Lian-Li side of things that might work? They used to make all sorts of absolutely oddball cases, but it looks like when they discontinue a model it's deleted from their website, meaning that the only ITX cases they list on there are the TU-150 and the O11 Mini (NOT SMALL FORM FACTOR).
Well, there's the O11 Mini Air. Which is still damn huge. Hahaha. Maybe in the future? Lian Li might come out with something, but I don't see the need for innovation from them yet to push the boundaries, with their great designed cases selling well, but I might be wrong.
Yeah, the x64 is super janky looking and I surprisingly don't mind it! Only think stopping me is actually with the gpu cover, the width of the gpu is limited to 115mm only. Embracing the jankiness, but yeah, case designs can vary and isn't for everyone.
Colinreay Mk2 was totally on my radar, but yeah unfortunate about no more runs.
I just got a 3060ti and can confirm fan blades hit on the k39v2. any thoughts on a solution? standoffs on the screws?
My personal belief is that in combination with the fan blad lifting off, the additional thickness of the backplate forces the card to be mounted not exactly in the pcie bracket. Well, not like the K39v2 is built perfectly either, but that's beside the point.
Standoffs on the mounting hole will work, as it will have a gap inbetween the case and the side panel, letting the fan spin. Well, that will also mean that that will be gap inbetween the case and the look will be off. Then again, not like most K39v2's are built with a perfect fit and no bowing.
My solution is to get something to wedge inbetween the side panel and the GPU, then using pressure to squish the case together to mount the screws down. In my case, I used two rubber fan gaskets. The video below would probably explain it way better than I did.
Also, congrats on landing a 3060ti Aero ITX!
"only" had to pay 200 dollars more than FE MSRP. It such a unicorn since only MSI makes it I just bit the bullet and bought it on the spot.
Video is nice, I built it completely opposite, PSU first, Mobo, and vid card at the end. And then closed the entire thing by attaching the front panel U. I think you way is better, my way made me skip the 2 front internal screws because i couldn't reach it.
Fan gasket is a good idea, I will give it a try, i have a bunch of Noctua ones laying around.
Thanks for the idea!!
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Must say that the video isn't mine though. Hahaha. And I can't remember the build process that I took for my own K39v2 too.
All I remember is a lot of using brute strenght to mash things together at the end, and copious amounts of swearing at times.
Cheers and hope it helps!
Must say that the video isn't mine though. Hahaha. And I can't remember the build process that I took for my own K39v2 too.
All I remember is a lot of using brute strenght to mash things together at the end, and copious amounts of swearing at times.
For those interested, I've posted the MSI Aero ITX 3060Ti OC review for SFF.Net
smallformfactor.net
GPU Review: MSI RTX 3060Ti Aero ITX OC LHR – SFF.Network
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