hmm fair point. the airflow in my cerberus isn't front to back, but i can see your point regarding the front face ,_,
With an SFX PSU covering the bottom of an µATX motherboard, would you really be able to fit any GPU wider than a single slot? Sure I guess you could do it with a low profile waterblock and custom loop but you'd have a hell of a time fitting radiators, reservoir, tubes and wiring without totally blocking all airflow.otherwise, the cerberus does 240mm rads at the front when the PSU's above the CPU. the only reason i see a want for an mATX CX2 would be the CPU air cooler height clearance (with the option to mount the PSU at the bottom over the last few PCI slots)
With an SFX PSU covering the bottom of an µATX motherboard, would you really be able to fit any GPU wider than a single slot?
okay i ALMOST shot myself in the foot with a purchase I almost made, so before i actually go do that (figuratively) :
would a Dark Rock Pro (TR)4 fit in the case? noctua's 165mm height definition start from the base of the motherboard, but bequiet's 162.8mm height dimension starts from the base of the cooler itself (i.e. above the CPU IHS)
I vaguely remember the CPU height being 9mm (might be taller for TR4) ,_,
which case was it? kinda curious o_oYou can take the top off from Dark Rock Pro coolers to save around 3mm, I did that and my Dark Rock Pro 4 fits in the case that has 160mm cooler clearance.
oh hey i think i found your build thread o_oSunmilo C01
just one more though: how thick is the fan in the center that came with the DRP4? I might switch that out for a 25mm thick fan (maybe +2mm total because rubber pads)
ooof. that's one mod I'm going to have to do ,_,The middle fan is like 22mm thick, 25mm ones don't fit there, I tried.
Damn that is a good looking build, love a small case with a massive air cooler.Yup, that's my current build
The middle fan is like 22mm thick, 25mm ones don't fit there, I tried.
(the blue line is just to highlight the PCIe area of an mATX board, not a giganto unicorn 3KW PSU)
i don't think even a 1 slot card would fit with regular ATX PSUs with the current bottom floor definitions, but I wouldn't reckon it'll be a big issue to give a few more millimeters to accommodate. ditto true 2-slot cards for SFX. note where the outline of the 2-slot card end relative to the next PCIe socket
that being said, not many mainstream cards are 2-slots, so you might have a point there. it's the same issue that mATX boards themselves would face, since mATX boards capable of two GPUs are usually of 1-slot spacing (for 2-slot cards), even when you treat them like ITX boards (ignoring mATX boards with x16 at slot #2, which makes the situation worse) or straight up use 3-slot cards on ITX boards
there is some trade-off with the positioning of the PSUs.
heck, if you see the image, a 3-slot card is all the case will do with an ATX power supply at the bottom-rear (although there might be issues using true 3-slot cards with motherboards with the first x16 socket at slot #2, which is ALL (but one) of the TRX40 boards)
- if it's above in the front, it'll be the NCase M1 or the Cerberus.
- if it's at the bottom-rear like the CX2 it'll limit GPU choice due to slot-width
- if it's at the bottom-front, it'll limit GPU choice due to card length
Could you take an ATX power supply and stand it vertically in the bottom front of the case? You'd need slightly taller feet but you could get a right-angle cable and then route the cable under the case to the back for a powerstrip or if your desk is near a wall it could drop off early that way. I assume it would be even more room that way if you did it with an SFX vertically in the bottom front.
oh that's the ATX PSU outline. the two marked with names are SFX and SFX-L.Edit: what is the red square at the bottom area?
it'll take some figuring it out with custom parts and maybe DIY, but I think an ATX PSU in that orientation over there might significantly defeat the purpose of the front-to-back airflow design ._.
it's less of an issue with SFX, although I kinda feel like an SFX-L PSU might do the same level of obstruction with the ATX one ,_,
oh that's the ATX PSU outline. the two marked with names are SFX and SFX-L.
EDIT: okay i've made a mistake, the ATX outline shouldn't be there because an ATX PSU is not supported at that location as of now