I trust 'leaked benchmarks' even less than benchmarks in a vendor's marketing materials.
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Motherboard Incoming AM4 Mini-ITX boards
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http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-170...rce=traqli&utm_medium=onsite&utm_campaign=266
Damn r1700x seems interesting..
Raaaaaaaaaaahhh i've never been so undecided on cpu choice...
Damn r1700x seems interesting..
Raaaaaaaaaaahhh i've never been so undecided on cpu choice...
Yea it looks like we know what the X stands for at the end of the product names now. XFR enabled or not. So everything gets a base and a boost clock, but if your chip has XFR it will auto boost even higher based on the cooling solution you put on your CPU.
Looking at the list, it looks like the fastest 65w TDP chip with XFR is the R5 1400x. Base clock 3.5, Boost clock 3.9, 4 cores / 8 threads, with XFR boosting even higher. All for only $199.
Assuming the entire lineup is actually competitive with the intel lineup, i'll probably get the R5 1400x. I don't need a lot of cores, but i do need higher single core performance. Boost clock before XFR is only 100mhz below the R7 1800x, and the fact that the TDP is only 65w means whichever cooling solution you use won't have to cool as much so XFR should boost even higher. If the IPC is on par with skylake/kabylake, then we're talking about an i7-6700k with a 65w TDP for less than $200.
Looking at the list, it looks like the fastest 65w TDP chip with XFR is the R5 1400x. Base clock 3.5, Boost clock 3.9, 4 cores / 8 threads, with XFR boosting even higher. All for only $199.
Assuming the entire lineup is actually competitive with the intel lineup, i'll probably get the R5 1400x. I don't need a lot of cores, but i do need higher single core performance. Boost clock before XFR is only 100mhz below the R7 1800x, and the fact that the TDP is only 65w means whichever cooling solution you use won't have to cool as much so XFR should boost even higher. If the IPC is on par with skylake/kabylake, then we're talking about an i7-6700k with a 65w TDP for less than $200.
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I'm still waiting to see what selection of motherboards we will have access to.
Overall, I have yet to find an mATX or even ITX board that I find extremely appealing. I'm still looking for that go-to board.
Overall, I have yet to find an mATX or even ITX board that I find extremely appealing. I'm still looking for that go-to board.
I personally can't find happiness with ATX. Only sadness and lots of empty space.
http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1700x-389-8-core-cpu-benchmarks-leaked/
Leaks of R7 1700X...and it rocks...fingers crossed those numbers will be confirmed in 2 weeks time...fingers crossed...if it's the case...I go for AM4..
Leaks of R7 1700X...and it rocks...fingers crossed those numbers will be confirmed in 2 weeks time...fingers crossed...if it's the case...I go for AM4..
Another leak about AM4 Asus Motherboards prices...Crosshair hero @209$....wouah!..
edit : http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-am4-asus-motherboard-prices-leaked/
edit : http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-am4-asus-motherboard-prices-leaked/
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I am hoping that my skepticism is proven wrong as I desperately want AMD to compete with Intel!
I just don't see how a 65W TDP 8C/16T (AMD) chip will be able to compete with a 65W TDP 4C/8T (Intel) chip in applications that benefit from high single threaded performance when they are both using 14nm tech! Maybe I am not understanding something quite obvious?
Twice as many cores/threads but the same power consumption? Unless AMD have dramatically improved IPC will that not mean there single threaded core performance will be roughly half of that of an equivalent TDP Intel chip?
I am probably not understanding how these CPU's work?
I just don't see how a 65W TDP 8C/16T (AMD) chip will be able to compete with a 65W TDP 4C/8T (Intel) chip in applications that benefit from high single threaded performance when they are both using 14nm tech! Maybe I am not understanding something quite obvious?
Twice as many cores/threads but the same power consumption? Unless AMD have dramatically improved IPC will that not mean there single threaded core performance will be roughly half of that of an equivalent TDP Intel chip?
I am probably not understanding how these CPU's work?
All we know are TDP ratings, not actual power usage. Intel is pretty conservative about TDP's and mostly has them rated around the actual power usage, but I've seen 65w TDP AMD cpu's using 120 watts of power.
Also, always take leaks from 'techsite' wccftech with a bag of salt.
There is a lot of tech under the hood that does things we aren't used to seeing.
That being said, AMD's single threaded performance is still much lower than what I am used to.
However, some of the other results are extremely promising.
Ryzen 1700x @ 3.39GHz
Intel i7-4770k @ 4.6GHz (my submission)
Intel i7-6800k @ 3.4GHz
It will be interesting to see how high the CPU ST score will be when Ryzen is above 4.0GHz (+600MHz). The good news is, at 2046 ST it's already well beyond the 1800 CPU ST that is required for using PS2 and Gamecube emulators.
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There is a lot of tech under the hood that does things we aren't used to seeing.
That being said, AMD's single threaded performance is still much lower than what I am used to.
However, some of the other results are extremely promising.
Ryzen 1700x @ 3.39GHz
Intel i7-4770k @ 4.6GHz (my submission)
Intel i7-6800k @ 3.4GHz
It will be interesting to see how high the CPU ST score will be when Ryzen is above 4.0GHz (+600MHz). The good news is, at 2046 ST it's already well beyond the 1800 CPU ST that is required for using PS2 and Gamecube emulators.
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Let's see single thread performance while OC, or at least boost applied...
Just by estimating single cpu performance of R7 1700X :
- @4GHz (instead of 3.4Ghz), you are reaching something like 2407(approx)
- @4.6GHz (instead of 3.4Ghz), you are reaching something like 2768(approx)..similar IPC as Haswell (make sense)
Yes, Intel and AMD have different ways of measuring TDP, which is why I don't think it's fair to say, at least for now, that AMD managed to make a 95W CPU that is able to compete with a 140W Intel CPU when in a load scenario I can see those 95W going closer to 140W anyway. I'm also a bit skeptical, even though I will be definitely buying a Ryzen APU later in the year.
Apparently there will be no ITX motherboards at launch, we're going to have to wait.
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