Motherboard Framework Desktop: ITX Motherboard with Ryzen AI Max CPU

[46x02]

The major issue is the availability: That one seems to be only available via Ali Express so far, while Silverstone Air Slimmer 120 is available to all major markets. The OP seems to be located in the EU, so Ali Express + shipping costs + VAT / toll fees might not be worth it.

Also, is that one prone to explosions like the first versions of the Arctic Slim? AFAIK that was the reason Arctic silently replaced them with a slightly different type of fan. With 3000+ rpm, I'd be a bit sceptical, ESPECIALLY with a slim 120 fan.

Explosions? I've been using the TL-B12015 EXTREM for over a month now with no issues. Have it paired with Intel's 265K and an IS-55 heatsink. I have the CPU limited to around 180w and with the fan curve I'm using, it gets pretty close to max speed under full load. The fan has a ring blade design and it seems to have good stability.

By the way, I have tried a couple of different RTX4090 fans modified for case/heatsink use. They're around 17mm or so. Maximum RPM is somewhat beyond 3000. They didn't fail, I just wanted slightly more space from the side panel. They are a little complicated to obtain - I used a shopping agent website called Superbuy to find and purchase them, and the fans themselves were listed on a Chinese website called Xianyu. I think there are one or two models available on AliExpress also. Would definitely be overkill for Framework's motherboard.

 

[hrh_ginsterbusch]

Explosions? I've been using the TL-B12015 EXTREM for over a month now with no issues. Have it paired with Intel's 265K and an IS-55 heatsink. I have the CPU limited to around 180w and with the fan curve I'm using, it gets pretty close to max speed under full load. The fan has a ring blade design and it seems to have good stability.

Several people have reported the Arctic Slim first gen been prone to easily break or that there even was flying debris when coming apart. Acc. to other that doesnt happen anymore, albeit the fan blades seem to be still very nimble.

Now compare this to the Silverstone Air Slimmer, where I nearly cut myself when I was fixing things in open case test mode (yeah, no cut, but damn did my finger hurt).

cu, w0lf.

 

[k0n]

Just finished the build:

187 × 178 × 81 mm (2.7L)

Mine runs with a 250W GaN for now...

 

[46x02]

Just finished the build:

Beautiful case, do you have a name for it?

Mine runs with a 250W GaN for now...

According to CaseLabs, it can handle brief peaks of 300w https://www.caselabs.org/psu/hdplex-gan-250w-atx

You could add a power filter board like this for a little extra security https://www.ebay.com/itm/156614482515
It's for the 8-pin CPU connection, which is where the high power draw occurs.

 

[k0n]

Beautiful case, do you have a name for it?

"k2.7L" probably... I know the 250W GaN can handle it because I borrowed the unit from my 4060LP/12600 build

 

[Arboreal]

Just finished the build:

187 × 178 × 81 mm (2.7L)

Mine runs with a 250W GaN for now...

Sounds great, sadly as a UK resident I have no idea what it looks like as Imgur is not available here any longer....

 

[robbyfisher]

I'm popping back here as I've finished my Framework Desktop build. In the end I went with the Cooj MQ4, a HDPlex 500W Hi-Fi DC-ATX converter with custom cables, and a Dell 330W GaN brick. In addition to the Noctua APU fan sold by Framework I added two TL-8015 fans and swapped the standoffs for 8mm ones.

 

[Nilithium]

I'm popping back here as I've finished my Framework Desktop build. In the end I went with the Cooj MQ4, a HDPlex 500W Hi-Fi DC-ATX converter with custom cables, and a Dell 330W GaN brick. In addition to the Noctua APU fan sold by Framework I added two TL-8015 fans and swapped the standoffs for 8mm ones.

Very nice! I wanted to ask something: Have you considered tossing an RX 6400 in there for Lossless Scaling at all? I'm aware most don't use their Framework for gaming, but the 6400 is a 4.0 x4 GPU with a TDP of 50 watts. While this technically breaches the 25W max that Framework says the slot can handle, LSFG doesn't typically add max load to a GPU.

 

[Skripka]

Well, I went and ordered a 395 system to replace my MacMini that is short in the RAM department these days. Should be fun. Need to get the Noctua side-panel and duct printed out, supposed improves noise performance a lot:

How to make the Framework Desktop run even quieter | Noctua

And because Noctua are bros, they put the files on the internet FOSS, and people improved on them:
Framework Destktop side panel with Noctua-style fan grill
With improved on latches, by community folks: Framework Destktop side panel with Noctua-style fan grill but slightly better
Framework Desktop custom fan duct - Printables.com

 

[robbyfisher]

Very nice! I wanted to ask something: Have you considered tossing an RX 6400 in there for Lossless Scaling at all?

Short answer, no. I'm not a gamer but may add GPU down the track for local inference