Production FormD T1 Classic (READ FIRST POST)

[Wahaha360]

Just curious if the Asetek 645lt would fit? Mainly asking since I already have it and I could just use it. I’ve looked through the thread as well at the testing for cpu water cooling. Do you recommend we build our own 240/120 AIO, or just buy the Corsair H55?

The 645LT will fit, but you will have to use double sided tape to secure it, b/c we didn't make fan brackets for 92mm mounting.

The Corsair H60 2018 is what I'm testing now on my 9900K, it's accessible for a lot of people.

I'm waiting to get the EK-AIO 120 D-RGB , the pump on the EK is based on the SPC pump, which *should be significantly better than the Alphacool DC-LT and the Asetek/Corsair/NZXT/all other brands pump. If the EK is a game changer, will let you guys know.

 

[panzermuffin]

I'm waiting to get the EK-AIO 120 D-RGB , the pump on the EK is based on the SPC pump, which *should be significantly better than the Alphacool DC-LT and the Asetek/Corsair/NZXT/all other brands pump. If the EK is a game changer, will let you guys know.

Very nice. Please report on the pump noise. I'd love to fit a 3-slot GPU with this AiO.

 

[Metroversal]

You should keep your LT240, my AIO won't be ready until Q4, I have no time to really get it going.

LT240 > Waiting > Silverstone Tundra TD-02

@Wahaha360 Before your AIO... a set of custom cables for the T1 would be highly appreciated, just saying ?

 

[hetvler]

@Wahaha360 Before your AIO... a set of custom cables for the T1 would be highly appreciated, just saying ?

Any cables for a sandwich style case will work.

 

[AMv8-1day]

The 645LT will fit, but you will have to use double sided tape to secure it, b/c we didn't make fan brackets for 92mm mounting.

The Corsair H60 2018 is what I'm testing now on my 9900K, it's accessible for a lot of people.

I'm waiting to get the EK-AIO 120 D-RGB , the pump on the EK is based on the SPC pump, which *should be significantly better than the Alphacool DC-LT and the Asetek/Corsair/NZXT/all other brands pump. If the EK is a game changer, will let you guys know.

I didn't see much mention of the pump specs on their page, have you seen a review somewhere breaking it down?

 

[bpark919]

@Wahaha360 do you think this rad would fit the case? There are no reviews on the crossflow but I'm hoping if it fits (only 20mm thick, full copper and brass core) then I'd be able to use the other two holes as fill ports. Also have an Eisbaer 240 en route and thinking of doing some thermal testing with the alphacool vs tx series rad.

TX240 Crossflow Ultrathin Radiator — XSPC - Performance PC Water Cooling

SKU: 5060596650602 The XSPC TX is the worlds thinnest PC radiator. At just over 20mm thick, it's 20% thinner than a standard 120mm fan and over 40% thinner than our EX series radiators. Despite its size, the TX series offers both excellent performance and low flow restriction. This comes from the

www.xs-pc.com

 

[PBJ]

@Wahaha360 do you think this rad would fit the case? There are no reviews on the crossflow but I'm hoping if it fits (only 20mm thick, full copper and brass core) then I'd be able to use the other two holes as fill ports. Also have an Eisbaer 240 en route and thinking of doing some thermal testing with the alphacool vs tx series rad.

TX240 Crossflow Ultrathin Radiator — XSPC - Performance PC Water Cooling

SKU: 5060596650602 The XSPC TX is the worlds thinnest PC radiator. At just over 20mm thick, it's 20% thinner than a standard 120mm fan and over 40% thinner than our EX series radiators. Despite its size, the TX series offers both excellent performance and low flow restriction. This comes from the

www.xs-pc.com

It won’t fit because it’s 124.2mm wide. Maximum width is 120mm.

 

[Wahaha360]

@Wahaha360 do you think this rad would fit the case? There are no reviews on the crossflow but I'm hoping if it fits (only 20mm thick, full copper and brass core) then I'd be able to use the other two holes as fill ports. Also have an Eisbaer 240 en route and thinking of doing some thermal testing with the alphacool vs tx series rad.

TX240 Crossflow Ultrathin Radiator — XSPC - Performance PC Water Cooling

SKU: 5060596650602 The XSPC TX is the worlds thinnest PC radiator. At just over 20mm thick, it's 20% thinner than a standard 120mm fan and over 40% thinner than our EX series radiators. Despite its size, the TX series offers both excellent performance and low flow restriction. This comes from the

www.xs-pc.com

Check first post under “old stuff”.

I already tested this radiator against LT240, it’s not better, so I didn’t bother supporting it in the final design.

 

[DrHudacris]

@Wahaha360 do you think this rad would fit the case? There are no reviews on the crossflow but I'm hoping if it fits (only 20mm thick, full copper and brass core) then I'd be able to use the other two holes as fill ports. Also have an Eisbaer 240 en route and thinking of doing some thermal testing with the alphacool vs tx series rad.

TX240 Crossflow Ultrathin Radiator — XSPC - Performance PC Water Cooling

SKU: 5060596650602 The XSPC TX is the worlds thinnest PC radiator. At just over 20mm thick, it's 20% thinner than a standard 120mm fan and over 40% thinner than our EX series radiators. Despite its size, the TX series offers both excellent performance and low flow restriction. This comes from the

www.xs-pc.com

In addition to the above, I bet the cross flow version is too long as well (additional end tank), also I run one in my ghost

 

[gwertheim]

The 645LT will fit, but you will have to use double sided tape to secure it, b/c we didn't make fan brackets for 92mm mounting.

The Corsair H60 2018 is what I'm testing now on my 9900K, it's accessible for a lot of people.

I'm waiting to get the EK-AIO 120 D-RGB , the pump on the EK is based on the SPC pump, which *should be significantly better than the Alphacool DC-LT and the Asetek/Corsair/NZXT/all other brands pump. If the EK is a game changer, will let you guys know.

So if you have the lt240, keep the rad, ditch the tubes and the pump block if the EK is better?

 

[Wahaha360]

So if you have the lt240, keep the rad, ditch the tubes and the pump block if the EK is better?

I don’t think EK AIO can come apart like the LT240, so LT240 wins on modularity.

I can 3D print or machine custom fittings for my own EK AIO pump to LT240 radiator builds, but this is not user friendly or cost effective, so I literally recommend it to no one.

 

[gwertheim]

I don’t think EK AIO can come apart like the LT240, so LT240 wins on modularity.

I can 3D print or machine custom fittings for my own EK AIO pump to LT240 radiator builds, but this is not user friendly or cost effective, so I literally recommend it to no one.

Lol

 

[PBJ]

I don’t think EK AIO can come apart like the LT240, so LT240 wins on modularity.

I can 3D print or machine custom fittings for my own EK AIO pump to LT240 radiator builds, but this is not user friendly or cost effective, so I literally recommend it to no one.

The specs on the EK website show the AIO radiator is aluminum. I was hoping copper, but hopefully it’s better than the Corsair.

 

[Spai1298]

Actually so okay with this because waiting and possibly having a greater chance at getting the case totally works for me, i can turn my water back on??

 

[Spai1298]

Actually so okay with this because waiting and possibly having a greater chance at getting the case totally works for me, i can turn my water back on??

This was in reply to the preorders being on hold but it doesnt show that for me so yeah

 

[HottestVapes]

How feesible would it be to get NCase side panels using that same style of metal mesh?

 

[Wahaha360]

How feesible would it be to get NCase side panels using that same style of metal mesh?

Too much my plate atm, so not in the plans.

 

[HottestVapes]

Too much my plate atm, so not in the plans.

Figured as much.

Don't suppose you have the specs on the panels you're using for the T1? As in the hole sizing, spacing, and thickness? I've been looking around for similar plain perforated sheet metals on eBay but I can't find anything quite right. Either holes are too big or the mesh is too fine.

 

[pyroxide]

Is the EK-CoolStream SE 240 the rad to use for a custom loop? (120mm width and 26mm thick)

 

[Wahaha360]

Figured as much.

Don't suppose you have the specs on the panels you're using for the T1? As in the hole sizing, spacing, and thickness? I've been looking around for similar plain perforated sheet metals on eBay but I can't find anything quite right. Either holes are too big or the mesh is too fine.

The mesh is custom, 1.1mm diameter vents with 1.8mm spacing on 1mm metal.

You are not going to find T1 mesh on the market, because this spec make it very expensive, even more than aluminum + anodizing, for economic reasons, most factories will not make it.

You can make mesh *economically in 2 ways:
1) chemical process (<0.5mm thick steel)
2) punching (holes diameter 1.5x thickness)

You want be ~ 1mm diameter holes for dust filtering purpose. T1's 1.1mm holes on 1mm thick steel requires 1) custom metal, 2) custom tooling and 3) custom oil lubricant.

If you are missing any of the 3 ingredients list above, you will get a panel that is severely warped, surface damaged beyond recognition or use 0.7mm thick metal, which will have stiffness / flex issues. I know because we tried and failed many times.

Afiak, there is no mesh on the market with similar combination of:
1) vent hole diameter vs thickness ratio
2) ventilation density vs. surface area ratio (without having to emboss to add strength)
3) over strength & flex

How feesible would it be to get NCase side panels using that same style of metal mesh?

Too much my plate atm, so not in the plans.

This is also why making it for the M1 is more complicated.

The surface area of M1 Side Panel is more than T1 Side Panel. Once you increase surface area, you will get more Flex on the Mesh Side Panel, which you will need to compensate by either 1) emboss / flanging, 2) changing mesh spec or combination of both.

I just don't have time to do it right atm.