FormD T1 - 9.5L with UNLIMITED space!! - 3950X+64GB Ram+2GPUs - TITAN V FULL watercooled+TITAN RTX!! Fill the void 2.0

M-jeri

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Guys can anyone help me here with a suggestion?

I have a clearance problem. Checked the top clearance, but not the sides. Is there any fitting that can help me close the top panel?
Hope the picture is clear about the issue.


I have the EK GPU rotary terminal. It does not help. 1. It does not fit on the 1080ti Bykski 2. Even if it does, the same problem.

Thanks!.
 

namo

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So detailed and easy to follow log and sorta guidance as well. I'm looking to build the same as yours, quick question though:
1. Is getting 3700X better than 10600K/9700K? I'm looking for mainly gaming sections but also some photo/video editing (not all the time, but want to future-proof a little) pairing with the cpu (after figuring out which one) is rtx 3080, which leads to my second question.
2. is water block for RTX 3080 (both 3rd party and FE) yield enough room for DDC Reservior or the DC-LT one?
3. Is EKWB work better than alphacool?
1. I think you should wait for Zen 3, it is coming soon
2. FE waterblock by EK hasn’t been released yet but based the only pictures we have there should be enough room for a pump
3. It doesnt really work BETTER but quality is better (ekwb has the best waterblocks for example)
 

herbsorber

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1. I think you should wait for Zen 3, it is coming soon
2. FE waterblock by EK hasn’t been released yet but based the only pictures we have there should be enough room for a pump
3. It doesnt really work BETTER but quality is better (ekwb has the best waterblocks for example)
Is Zen 3 really good? Sorry, I'm a total noob but I got time. I'm in no rush, just slowly planning out my build. I have heard a lot of people have problems like leakages with alphacool. I have never use water cooling before so EK is a little too expensive to me right now. I'll probably go with Alpenfohn Black Ridge for CPU and dual fan case Noctua A12x25 for gaming for now (Optimum Tech said just air cooling is fine for gaming)
Since I already spending for water cooling in the future, I might as well save for the better quality like EK.
 
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herbsorber

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And again, here we are!!

After 1 year and a half from my 2nd build (BTW, CHECK IT HERE if you didn't)
I've moved part of it with new addition in a smaller case:

THE FormD T1 !! This case is a small CNCed Aluminum jewel! I am so happy to got the possibility to be in the test shipping phase!

And for this I have to thanks the creator @Wahaha360 for all the incredible work he did in the last year to produce the T1!

It was a long journey to arrive at the "final build" so let's start from the beginning, shall we?

Here the full specs!! (UPDATED!!)

AMD Ryzen 3950X
Gigabyte Aorus X570 ITX
Corsair 2x32Gb 3600MHz C18-20-20-40
Nvidia Titan V (Watercooled)
EK-FC GPU Terminal Rotary 90
Nvidia Titan RTX
Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500GB (OS)
Samsung 970 Evo 2TB
Corsair SF750 PSU
Noctua F12 Chromax
Noctua A12x15 Chromax
Noctua NA-FC1 Fan PMW controller


C_Payne Bifurcation Riser x8/x8 1-Slot + 3D printed brackets
ADT.link 90 degrees Riser R33SL 25cm


Pslate DAN A4/GHOST S1 custom cables+my own custom cables

Alphacool Eisstation DC-LT 40 Reservoir + DC-LT 2600 Pump
Alphacool 1U ES DDC Reservoir Combo
EKWB DDC MX 3.1 PMW
EKWB Magnitude Acetal+Nickel CPU Block
EKWB SE240 Classic Radiator
EKWB Titan V GPU Block+Backplate
EKWB 90 degrees Torque fittings

Barrows Offset Fittings x2
EK-AF Angled 2x45 Fitting
Bitspower various extender
Alphacool TPV Metal fittings
+2 TPV 90 degrees fittings for the GPU
Alphacool TPV tubing 12,7/7,6

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Of course, sad story of every SFF builder, the case is the last piece to arrive! But this was good to start to put together and test different configurations and parts.
But most important, to check the clearance between the different options that I will have.

The first idea for the waterloop was to use one of the two compact solution available in the market: the Swiftech Apogee Drive IIor the Alphacool Eisbaer LT Solo.



The first one use a more powerful and wide knowned DDC Pump (You can choose from different models, MX 310, 18W PMW)
The second one use a proprietary pump, the DC-LT, less powerful, but how you will see, is more than enough to run a single radiator of 240mm, ! CPU block and 1 GPU block!

(BTW: if you motherboard's fan header is powerful enough, you can rewire the DDC pump to have only one cable! In general the MX310, or the EKWB MX have a wattage of 10W and 6W, so almost every ITX board fan header can provide 1A, so should be completely fine. For the more powerful version, the 18W, you have to check IF there is any fan header that can supply 2A.)

Here just the rewired DDC with an heatsink mounted in the Apogee Drive II


So, the system on the motherboard has started to be tested!


I've wanted to go with a full Alphacool loop as you can see, but I was worried that the backplate for the Titan V that Alphacool provide was too thick to fit nicely in the case (I was right BTW).

But more I was watching the @optimumtech video, and at the builds that people where showing day by day on the main thread, more I was thinking that I could fit between the GPU and the front panel a pump, to have the possibilities to have a complete loop, choosing my favourite CPU block as well.

Looking day and night to which could be the possible solutions, I've ended to restrict the choice between to options just released by Alphacool:
The 1U DDC Reservoir and the Eisstation 40-DC-LT

Then, I've moved instead to an EKWB based system, and I was satisfied by the temporary look!


After a few days, I was still convinced by heart that a DDC could fit in it!


Keeping an eye also at the general look and to my curiosity, I've tried also a CPU block that from their website seems to "lower the temp of 7 degrees!!! Especially on Ryzen 3!!": the Optimus Foundation Block.
Well, it is a nice block, amazing mirror finishing of the baseplate, but seriously, nothing special. Zero difference from the EKWB Velocity, and just a weird mounting system without backplate and without spring, that caused the motherboard to bend crazily! Not anymore, sorry.


So, understanding for the COVID-19 serious situation but so impatient to have my build done, in a moment of impulsivity I've bought from a local reseller a Louqe Ghost, and put all the part in it, as I was imagining could work as well in the T1!

Pretty nice, isn't it?
You can see that at the end I went for a just released EKWB Magnitude CPU block. Seriously, the quality is way higher that the previous Velocity, and IMO even bette than the Optimus!
Is also a very low profile and low restrictive block, so even in the 3 Slots configuration it will fit withtall 90 Degrees fittings like my EKWB Torque!
BE CAREFUL, though. Because is an optimized block for the new Ryzen CPU,it is not possible this time to rotate it in a goofy (90 degrees) position!



But of course, just one one after I've finished this, HERE THE LOCAL POST UPDATE!!! The T1 is at the custom to be cleared. And 2 days later, here the baby!


And finally I can start to test the different components I thought could fit!

I know, the only official supported 240 rad is the one bundled with the Eisbaer Alphacool LT 240, but why not to try!
AND, IT FITS! The 27mm EKWB SE240 Classic, just fit with 2slim Noctua Chromax A12x15 fans! Do have as much clearance I could have, I didn't apply the included Noctua small rubber pad.
Every mm count in this case!
To mount properly the 240mm rad, one pair of "short" bracket are provided to screw only one fan. The other fan have to be put directly on the radiator, having them for one half cantilevering, but 100% solid, so, don't worry!


Because of that, also the cable length matter. Having the T1 the same layout of the DAN A4 and the Ghost S1, the cables from @pslate were working perfectly!
Only in the 2 slots GPU configuration, because the motherboard is a little far away from the PSU than in the other cases, the CPU EPS cable was 2 cm to short, but having all the necessaryat home, was super easy to do my custom one!


STILL, I was trying to fit the DDC :D (MAYBE it could work, but I think I have to file a bit the side of the 1U DDC Reservoir...)


Time to put all together!

I've chosen the tiny but powerful DC-LT pump, together with the Eisstation 40 DC-LT. It is a safe choice size-wise compared to the DDC one. I've tested it inside the Ghost, and it has given to me only positive results!




A bit more of detailed pictures to see how the tubing are routed in every tight space and the radiator in place!







There is also space for T fittings for an easier drain!


And FINALLY, here you are!








The PART 1 of my build log inside the T1 is complete!!

In the next days I will update the thread with the PART 2, where you can see how 2 GPUs can fit inside this wonderful case!!

And of course stress test, noise and temperatures!!

Thanks again to @Wahaha360 for the incredible job he has done, and for the continuous support he always give!

Cheers!!
can other sfx psu work with similar setup? like EVGA 650W sfx psu for example?
 

Dreamwrx

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Is Zen 3 really good? Sorry, I'm a total noob but I got time. I'm in no rush, just slowly planning out my build. I have heard a lot of people have problems like leakages with alphacool. I have never use water cooling before so EK is a little too expensive to me right now. I'll probably go with Alpenfohn Black Ridge for CPU and dual fan case Noctua A12x25 for gaming for now (Optimum Tech said just air cooling is fine for gaming)
Since I already spending for water cooling in the future, I might as well save for the better quality like EK.
We don't know exactly what Zen 3 will be but if you aren't in a rush to build then it's best to wait. Typically a newer generation of CPU should have at least one of the following effect:

1) Yield 8-10% IPC increase (instructions per clock)
2) Lower Power Consumption ~10%
3) Drop prices of older generation.

So there is really no loss in waiting if you can.
 

teosle

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Sep 28, 2020
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Hi! I'm new to SFF.NETWORK and also one who is very keen to build a custom loop for my upcoming FormD T1 case! I'm now in a hectic planning phase about which components should I fit inside and pretty much in clear waters but still find it hard to find a proper GPU + block at a good price that I definitely know that will fit.

I'm planning to use Alphacool's DC-LT 2600 + Eisstation DC-LT 40 Reservoir combo. Can someone confirm for me what is the maximum length of a GPU + block that still fits when the DC-LT 2600 + reservoir combo is fitted between the case and the GPU + block? I have tried to figure this out without succeeding.

I also have some hesitations to buy other components now because of Zen 3 and new Radeons but I want to have this build complete before Christmas and I don't think new generations' products will be available much before that... :(
 

devolv

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Feb 5, 2020
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Guys can anyone help me here with a suggestion?

I have a clearance problem. Checked the top clearance, but not the sides. Is there any fitting that can help me close the top panel?
Hope the picture is clear about the issue.


I have the EK GPU rotary terminal. It does not help. 1. It does not fit on the 1080ti Bykski 2. Even if it does, the same problem.

Thanks!.
What's propping it up? It looks to me your waterblock for your 1080ti and /or your graphics card is taller. Looks like you're running bifurcation as well, did you fold the new ADT cable as tight as possible around and sandwiched so that it's not extending beyond the center beam?
 

fabio

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M-jeri

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What's propping it up? It looks to me your waterblock for your 1080ti and /or your graphics card is taller. Looks like you're running bifurcation as well, did you fold the new ADT cable as tight as possible around and sandwiched so that it's not extending beyond the center beam?

The problem was solved. :). I flipped that connector block around.

The Gfx is teensy bit taller. That is all.
 

wenyuax

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Hi @fabio, for the mini GPU fan header on the Aorus X570-I, can you control the fan curve for that header? I'm planning an extremely fantastic configuration and if custome fan curve works on that mini header it will be perfect!
 

devolv

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@fabio I solved the Gigabyte Aorus X570 2 fan headers issue.




Now there is 3 fan headers from the motherboard. ?
The cable is called GPU fan adapter to PWM

Amazon product
 
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fabio

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Ahahhaha, but it never was an issue! ?
And what do you do for the chipset temperature?
 

devolv

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Ahahhaha, but it never was an issue! ?
And what do you do for the chipset temperature?
I just tried using Argus Monitor and if can actually do a software enabled curve to control the fan based on a specific temperature diode (of your choice.



What's interesting is that Argus can link a GPU temp diode and then control the motherboard fan to spin up accordingly to the curve.
Right now I have it set to Temp 6, which is the Chipset diode with my 80mm fan with custom speed settings. So full control of your fans!
@wenyuax
 
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altair0319

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It worked in my x570 Hero board.

I jumped the header. Restarted and installed drivers. The TB3 ports showed up. I did nothing in my BIOS.
So I did some research and ended up the same solution. I used the card with a m.2 to pcie cable, and at the beginning it shows up in the thunderbolt control panel but because I don't have a thunderbolt device to test and any regular type c device just won't work, I unplugged the card and it never shows up again. I've seen someone saying the card driver version after 23 won't allow jump wire, and mine is 50. I'm curious what version are you using and do you have issues using regular type-c devices or any hot plug issues?
 
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