el01 Design ideas and advice thread (scroll to bottom for actual topic)

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Hi everyone. This is a project I started in late September 2016. With that being said, I am proud to present the Breathe.











The Story
I have a long history of designing and building things ever since I was 7 years old. Through the years, the projects I pursued grew in complexity and so the stakes got ever higher. My parents would give me a budget to work within, and I had to make my ideas work right the first time, every time.

In the summer of 2012, I built my first computer. This computer has been my workhorse and has followed me all the way into today, my freshman year of college. I love my computer, it has proven to be my most prized tool and a great source of entertainment and learning. I can't stand being away from it. But recently, our relationship has gotten rather rocky.

At every vacation or extended break from school, I take two things with me back home to Houston. A portion of my wardrobe and my computer. Being built in a Corsair 300R, my computer is not light nor small by any means and thus, it has shown itself to always be a pain to transport.

In addition to that, a gaming organization at my university holds biweekly LAN parties. I lust to go, but the size and weight of my computer holds me back.

So I craved something smaller.

It began with a cool 3D printed lamp I saw and Makirole's Aetos. Both made use of Voronoi patterns in their designs. I knew that by using Voronoi patterns in my case, it would be strong, lightweight, and allow for virtually unrestricted airflow — which I know is something many SFF cases struggle with.



Very quickly, I saw how stupid this looked, with how large it was and how much empty space there was on the interior. So I tried to compact it down to minimum total volume, borrowing the back-to-back layout of the DAN-A4.



For the oncoming months, I worked on the case relentlessly, tinkering with drive placement and power switch location in order to maximize the usable volume of the GPU compartment.

Moving the SSDs from the topside to the underside of the GPU made so much sense, since no graphics card would ever extend in that direction.


Sourcing a better power switch was quite tedious, but I was able to find one with a diameter of 8mm, which conveniently fits in between the feet/tabs of the PCI-E bracket, allowing me to move the graphics card further left and increase the maximum graphics card height.


This continued on, including further size & proportion optimizations and some minor reorganization, for the next few months.

You can see the condensed genesis of the final case design here.


You can see I experimented with extended feet for the case and inverting the motherboard, so all cables would come out the bottom. I got rid of that idea and settled on small feet for the bottom, allowing for exhaust airflow for the PSU and omnidirectional power cable routing.


As December began and winter vacation started to creep up, working on the case became rather stale. I was practically done, but something about it felt off to me. I started to become unsatisfied with the open air Voronoi pattern of the case, but I had no good ideas on hand. I just wanted it to look cleaner; something to match the slimness and verticality of the case.

At this time, I left the design alone for two months.

Winter break ended and the spring semester began. My sister and my friends noticed how much time I was putting into playing Overwatch (heh), and so I was motivated to offset that. I got into the productive mood again and resumed work on the case two weeks ago. I started with translating the design from Sketchup into Inventor.


Those two months away from the case allowed my tastes to mature, and so I had a great idea for the new design of the venting of the case.

Taking cues from Braun's classic design language, I gave the exterior of the case an orthogonal hole grid pattern, giving the case, in my opinion, a much more modern and understated aesthetic while still keeping the standard of ample ventilation. I knew that this appearance would be carried into the final version. I was in love with the way it looked.


**AUGUST 2017 UPDATE: No longer in love with the hole grid pattern. This is how the case will look now. I love it even more. Thanks guys.


So yeah, that's pretty much it up until now. Now onto the specs.

Specifications, Dimensions, and Features
The Breathe supports a variety of configurations in its second compartment due to an array of mounting holes I incorporated into the design.

From left to right:
Standard Config: one large graphics card + four 2.5" drives
Alternative Config One: one short graphics card + four 2.5" drives + one 3.5" drive
Alternative Config Two: one short graphics card + eight 2.5" drives

The 2.5" drive bracket is removable in case it's not needed.

Specifications/Dimensions
Length: 183.1mm
Width: 115.1mm
Height: 330.9mm
Volume: 6.97L

Material: 1.5mm steel
Finish: Powder coat

PSU compatibility: SFX
Motherboard compatibility: Mini-ITX
CPU cooler compatibility: 50mm max height
Graphics card compatibility: 309.1mm max length (from outside face of PCI-E bracket to end), 45.6mm max width, 152.2mm max height (from bottom of PCI-E fingers to top)

PCI-E riser compatibility: 3M twin-axial PCI-E riser and Li-Heat D-Type riser -- both of them will work in the case.

Another notable feature is the inclusion of an anti-theft lock slot on the bottom of the case. (thanks, Aibohphobia)

I'm always looking for ways to improve this thing, so let me know what you think.
What render software are you using? Also, could you provide design files for some of the hardcore DIYers around here?
 
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What render software are you using? Also, could you provide design files for some of the hardcore DIYers around here?

You need to stop hassling people to release the design files for the projects their selling. For one thing it demonstrates a substantial lack of understanding of how alot of case benders do business but also its super fucking poor forum etiquette. There is nothing stopping you from taking the time to develop the prerequisite skill set required to develop your own ideas and release them under an open source license if this is something you want to peruse. Pestering other people will eventually end in bad blood


On topic: @DSE Congratulations on bringing this case to market. Having followed it from the 1st post im super excited to see its now a thing people can buy, it looks fantastic.
 

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Whew, that mod hammer from @jØrd though. But yea, its more than a bit rude to ask for a creator's work outright for free, its best to either send a pm or just assume if its not open source already, then its not a good idea to ask for free work.

ALSO, there was hardly anyone from v1 (save for a few) who posted their breathe builds. I better see some v2 picture build logs/posts in the next few weeks :cool:
 
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You need to stop hassling people to release the design files for the projects their selling. For one thing it demonstrates a substantial lack of understanding of how alot of case benders do business but also its super fucking poor forum etiquette. There is nothing stopping you from taking the time to develop the prerequisite skill set required to develop your own ideas and release them under an open source license if this is something you want to peruse. Pestering other people will eventually end in bad blood


On topic: @DSE Congratulations on bringing this case to market. Having followed it from the 1st post im super excited to see its now a thing people can buy, it looks fantastic.

Whew, that mod hammer from @jØrd though. But yea, its more than a bit rude to ask for a creator's work outright for free, its best to either send a pm or just assume if its not open source already, then its not a good idea to ask for free work.

ALSO, there was hardly anyone from v1 (save for a few) who posted their breathe builds. I better see some v2 picture build logs/posts in the next few weeks :cool:
Got it, I have been told by others to stop already. Therefore, it will be never mentioned again and I will go through and attempt (EDIT: I can't find any of my comments so it will take a while) to delete all mentions of such an embarassment. Yes, I agree, my online etiquette leaves much to be desired. This is in all seriousness: make a forum etiquitte sheet for me so I can know how not to be an Asian prick. I am currently trying (emphasis on trying) to learn how to design cases. If anyone could help me with my starting designs, it would be much appreciated. FreeCad is going very well, though.

Seriously though, what render software is being used? Just curious.

Finally, @jØrd, given your forum and industry experience, what would you say is proper etiquitte for me designing a case similar (in internal layout) to someone else's design? This is given that there are limited ways to stuff hardware into a box. Example: Node 202 vs. Raven RVZ01 vs. CRYORIG Taku internal layout. I am trying to avoid a lawsuit here ;), especially considering that I find some components (not full parts) of designs useful or clever. On that note of lawsuits and bad blood, guess I'll just go and live under a piss-poor rock for a few decades ;) (and not buy from any people I've harassed due to shame, however pi** poor mine may be). Hopefully you enjoy my pi**-poor sense of humor (like my pi**-poor life) about my mistakes. I try to make fun of them and then correct them. I hope you understand that and that I am not trying to mock you.

Thanks!
-el01, who is doing a pi**-poor job writing forum posts while attempting to hold a pi** ;) lol jk
 
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If I recall, @DSE said in a previous post that he uses Keyshot. I use Keyshot 7, its pretty intuitive and simple to learn and perfect quick studio renders.
Given the price tag on Keyshot, I will probably look into free alternatives such as LuxRender. Thanks though!
 

el01

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You need to stop hassling people to release the design files for the projects their selling. For one thing it demonstrates a substantial lack of understanding of how alot of case benders do business but also its super fucking poor forum etiquette. There is nothing stopping you from taking the time to develop the prerequisite skill set required to develop your own ideas and release them under an open source license if this is something you want to peruse. Pestering other people will eventually end in bad blood


On topic: @DSE Congratulations on bringing this case to market. Having followed it from the 1st post im super excited to see its now a thing people can buy, it looks fantastic.
I finally have a small thing I can feel good about! yaaaaaaaay! on my way to basic case design....
https://www.flickr.com/photos/165204374@N04/shares/61JxC5

Made in FreeCAD after a reasonable amount of time...
(sorry for wasting your time on s***ty quality forum posts by the way)

What is the policy on cursing on SFF Forum? Can I go all out or is there a limit per forum post?
 

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@el01 Just FYI I moved this to its own thread. Its generally good to try not to derail threads that are pretty focused. Having a dedicated thread where you can share your work and ask for advice should help focus it towards people who are in a position to offer that advice / critique.
 
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@el01 Just FYI I moved this to its own thread. Its generally good to try not to derail threads that are pretty focused. Having a dedicated thread where you can share your work and ask for advice should help focus it towards people who are in a position to offer that advice / critique.
Got it, thanks! Anyone want to help?

I would like help with the following items:
  • Best design practices for laser cutting and general fabrication
  • Advice on free (emphasis here) design software I can use
  • Help adjusting me to forum posting from a lack of social interaction
  • (as in give me pointers on how to use a forum)
  • Helping me with my "down" days so I don't rant (send memes privately!)
  • Connecting me with people that may be able to help me
  • Sending me links I can learn from.
I am currently doing the following (will be updated)
  • Learning FreeCAD and starting to learn OnShape
  • Starting to learn about forum etiquitte
  • Taking an industrial design course online (free)
These are provided so you can get an idea of how much progress I have had, and what specifically I need help with.


Thanks!
-el01
 
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