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Valantar

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Do you think it'd be possible to do a push and pull config with 25mm and 15mm fans on it? It's a 38mm rad by itself, so I just want to be sure.
Remember that Arctic P14s are 27mm thick, not 25. There are also no particularly good slim 140mm fans on the market, so the benefit of adding any would be dubious at best. I would go with the stock fans for that AIO. They are great fans.
 

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Remember that Arctic P14s are 27mm thick, not 25. There are also no particularly good slim 140mm fans on the market, so the benefit of adding any would be dubious at best. I would go with the stock fans for that AIO. They are great fans.
Planned on using Noctua 25s with Nocuta 15s as well
 

paulesko

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I´m not sure either about using different fans on push pull configuration. it will probably improve the overall cooling power, but one of the pairs are going to be dragged by the other because the will not move air the same way through their rpm range...
 
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Valantar

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Planned on using Noctua 25s with Nocuta 15s as well
Noctua currently has no 140mm fans that are competitive with Arctic P14s - their NF-A14 is a much older design than the NF-A12x25, and the A12x25 is barely better than the Arctic P12. The P12 and P14 are the same design in different sizes, so the P14 should then noticeably outperform the P12, unlike the NF-A12x25 and NF-A14. (Noctua themselves marketed the NF-A12x25 as performing the same as or better than their 140mm offerings ...). To me, it sounds like that fan swap would double your AIO's price for an increase in noise (as you're exchanging two fans for four, even if they're quiet that noise adds up) and at best performance parity, at worst a drop. And as @ten13th said, Noctua doesn't have any 140mmx15mm fans.

I really like Noctua, and I'm really looking forward to seeing them bring the NF-A12x25 design to 140mm fans, but that's still a ways out.


Speaking as a previous Noctua diehard who recently swapped to a single 280mm rad with two Arctic P14s: buying an Arctic AIO and swapping out the fans would be an incredibly stupid thing to do.
 

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Noctua currently has no 140mm fans that are competitive with Arctic P14s - their NF-A14 is a much older design than the NF-A12x25, and the A12x25 is barely better than the Arctic P12. The P12 and P14 are the same design in different sizes, so the P14 should then noticeably outperform the P12, unlike the NF-A12x25 and NF-A14. (Noctua themselves marketed the NF-A12x25 as performing the same as or better than their 140mm offerings ...). To me, it sounds like that fan swap would double your AIO's price for an increase in noise (as you're exchanging two fans for four, even if they're quiet that noise adds up) and at best performance parity, at worst a drop. And as @ten13th said, Noctua doesn't have any 140mmx15mm fans.

I really like Noctua, and I'm really looking forward to seeing them bring the NF-A12x25 design to 140mm fans, but that's still a ways out.


Speaking as a previous Noctua diehard who recently swapped to a single 280mm rad with two Arctic P14s: buying an Arctic AIO and swapping out the fans would be an incredibly stupid thing to do.
Ended up finding a complete workaround. Gonna just use this.
 
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Interesting, let us know your results! A 240mm rad has significantly less surface area than a 280mm rad (which is closer to a 360mm), but those fans are also really good. At least they've given it a thicker rad to give those fans something to work with. Definitely an interesting product!
I was kinda disappointed to see that there was no 280, but I'm hoping they can come out with a 280 version soon with some 140mm 30mm fans as well. That would give Arctic a run for their money.
 
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paulesko

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I was kinda disappointed to see that there was no 280, but I'm hoping they can come out with a 280 version soon with some 140mm 30mm fans as well. That would give Arctic a run for their money.
those fans would work great in this case with a thicker than normal rad or a more dense one. Interesting!
 

Stinkybear

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The C14S can only outperform the SA130 with dual fans. Interesting is also the new Thermalright Silver Soul 135
I was wondering what might fit well for air cooling with the additional height besides the C14S with dual fans and then the Silver soul was released.
 

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The C14S can only outperform the SA130 with dual fans. Interesting is also the new Thermalright Silver Soul 135

1. How many fans can you slap on a SA130 in this case?
2. And why do we consider silver soul 135 if the clearance is only 130?
3. And in the case of 120mm fan tower coolers will you slap a Noctua fan or a Phanteks T30?
4. When you say dual fans, do you mean dual a14 or one a14 and another a12x15 on the fan bracket, or is there a slim 140mm fan to try?
 

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1. How many fans can you slap on a SA130 in this case?
2. And why do we consider silver soul 135 if the clearance is only 130?
3. And in the case of 120mm fan tower coolers will you slap a Noctua fan or a Phanteks T30?
4. When you say dual fans, do you mean dual a14 or one a14 and another a12x15 on the fan bracket, or is there a slim 140mm fan to try?
There are some planned revisions that haven't made it to the front page.
So what will i do?
- i will make the case 15mm more wide
# gpu support up to 3slot 320mm length, 140mm height
# air cooling up to 145mm
# 280 aio support also with 45mm thick radiator

1. One in the middle, one in front, the case fans in the back.
2. See the revision to 145mm.
4. It looks like dual a14s will fit since the C14s will go to 142.