Motherboard [27/10/2024]ASRock DeskMini A/X300 BIOS /"P1.90.SL01"(S3 support) & "P1.91"(Curve Optimizer) for X300 /"P3.70E" for A300 - AGESA ComboV2 PI "1.2.0.Cc"

ozkf

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Hi, can someone clarify if there is some way to undervolt a CPU? Thinking to buy X300 so not familiar with it, I do know there is a way to change a voltage for RAM but how about CPU?
 

obrida

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@HydrAxx747 I received at 1.90 with ACS enabled by default from ASRock. In theory it should enable IOMMU groups without the pcie_acs_override=downstream kernel param that wrecks security, and do whatever the equivalent of ARI enumeration does.

There is a risk that it's compatible wth Cezanne (5xxx series) only and may completely stop booting with older chips.

 
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HydrAxx747

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@HydrAxx747 I received at 1.90 with ACS enabled by default from ASRock. In theory it should enable IOMMU groups without the pcie_acs_override=downstream kernel param that wrecks security, and do whatever the equivalent of ARI enumeration does.

There is a risk that it's compatible wth Cezanne (5xxx series) only and may completely stop booting with older chips.

Thanks a lot for sharing, my friend! It's good and important to pool our resources and knowledge as DeskMini users. I'll add it to the sharing folder tonight when I have a little more time, and I'll credit you for sharing this test BIOS and clarify what you told me about compatibility only with "Cézanne" APUs (this is also specified in the file name of the archive you shared) so that some people avoid unnecessarily bricking their DeskMini X300😅, again a big thank you for your contribution, it will not be forgotten. This is the way!
 
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Dr. Nick

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@HydrAxx747 I received at 1.90 with ACS enabled by default from ASRock. In theory it should enable IOMMU groups without the pcie_acs_override=downstream kernel param that wrecks security, and do whatever the equivalent of ARI enumeration does.

There is a risk that it's compatible wth Cezanne (5xxx series) only and may completely stop booting with older chips.

That BIOS comes with the usual APU support for 2000G, 3000G, 4000G & 5000G series:
 
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HydrAxx747

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That BIOS comes with the usual APU support for 2000G, 3000G, 4000G & 5000G:
Maybe then it's the option that only works correctly on Cezanne APUs in this case? Because I admit the precision in the file name of the archive containing the BIOS is not really clear and leaves all this subject to interpretation, so it would be necessary to test this with different generations of APUs... Because if the BIOS department of ASRock added this precision, it is because there is necessarily a reason for that, otherwise I would not see the point of having specified it😅
 

Dr. Nick

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Maybe then it's the option that only works correctly on Cezanne APUs in this case? Because I admit the precision in the file name of the archive containing the BIOS is not really clear and leaves all this subject to interpretation, so it would be necessary to test this with different generations of APUs... Because if the BIOS department of ASRock added this precision, it is because there is necessarily a reason for that, otherwise I would not see the point of having specified it😅
Yeah, would've been good if ASRock would've given some information regarding that. 😉
 
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obrida

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Oct 16, 2024
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I apologise, to be super clear that the file name was modified by me based on the email. They said that some Ryzen versions don't support ACS, and I stressed that I had a Cezanne before they sent it.

It's possible it will work on older chips, but I didn't want to be responsible for breaking anyone's computer, so I added the post-fix for safety.

Sorry for not making it clearer, that's on me.
 
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headkaze

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@HydrAxx747 I received at 1.90 with ACS enabled by default from ASRock. In theory it should enable IOMMU groups without the pcie_acs_override=downstream kernel param that wrecks security, and do whatever the equivalent of ARI enumeration does.

There is a risk that it's compatible wth Cezanne (5xxx series) only and may completely stop booting with older chips.

Thanks @obrida! I just tried the BIOS with my 5700G and it gives me the following groups:
```
IOMMU Group 0:
00:01.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir PCIe Dummy Host Bridge [1022:1632]
IOMMU Group 1:
00:01.1 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir PCIe GPP Bridge [1022:1633]
IOMMU Group 2:
00:02.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir PCIe Dummy Host Bridge [1022:1632]
IOMMU Group 3:
00:02.3 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir/Cezanne PCIe GPP Bridge [1022:1634]
IOMMU Group 4:
00:02.4 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir/Cezanne PCIe GPP Bridge [1022:1634]
IOMMU Group 5:
00:08.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir PCIe Dummy Host Bridge [1022:1632]
IOMMU Group 6:
00:08.1 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir Internal PCIe GPP Bridge to Bus [1022:1635]
IOMMU Group 7:
00:14.0 SMBus [0c05]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SMBus Controller [1022:790b] (rev 51)
00:14.3 ISA bridge [0601]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH LPC Bridge [1022:790e] (rev 51)
IOMMU Group 8:
00:18.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Cezanne Data Fabric; Function 0 [1022:166a]
00:18.1 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Cezanne Data Fabric; Function 1 [1022:166b]
00:18.2 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Cezanne Data Fabric; Function 2 [1022:166c]
00:18.3 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Cezanne Data Fabric; Function 3 [1022:166d]
00:18.4 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Cezanne Data Fabric; Function 4 [1022:166e]
00:18.5 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Cezanne Data Fabric; Function 5 [1022:166f]
00:18.6 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Cezanne Data Fabric; Function 6 [1022:1670]
00:18.7 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Cezanne Data Fabric; Function 7 [1022:1671]
IOMMU Group 9:
01:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller [0108]: Micron/Crucial Technology P2 [Nick P2] / P3 / P3 Plus NVMe PCIe SSD (DRAM-less) [c0a9:540a] (rev 01)
IOMMU Group 10:
02:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8211/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller [10ec:8168] (rev 15)
IOMMU Group 11:
03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Wi-Fi 6E(802.11ax) AX210/AX1675* 2x2 [Typhoon Peak] [8086:2725] (rev 1a)
IOMMU Group 12:
04:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Cezanne [Radeon Vega Series / Radeon Vega Mobile Series] [1002:1638] (rev c8)
IOMMU Group 13:
04:00.1 Audio device [0403]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Renoir Radeon High Definition Audio Controller [1002:1637]
IOMMU Group 14:
04:00.2 Encryption controller [1080]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 10h-1fh) Platform Security Processor [1022:15df]
IOMMU Group 15:
04:00.3 USB controller [0c03]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir/Cezanne USB 3.1 [1022:1639]
IOMMU Group 16:
04:00.4 USB controller [0c03]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir/Cezanne USB 3.1 [1022:1639]
IOMMU Group 17:
04:00.5 Multimedia controller [0480]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] ACP/ACP3X/ACP6x Audio Coprocessor [1022:15e2] (rev 01)
IOMMU Group 18:
04:00.6 Audio device [0403]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h/19h HD Audio Controller [1022:15e3]
```
This is actually one extra group than the ACS kernel patch (`Multimedia controller`).
 

obrida

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I tested it on a 3200G and it also not only booted, but separated the devices into distinct IOMMU groups. So it's safe for (some)other chips!

Inside the CTRL-Q menu in advanced, there's 4x4 bifurcation, "thunderbolt enable" and a raft of other stuff I don't understand.

This maybe the last and best BIOS ASRock have gifted us! Thanks ASRock Engineering! 🙌
 

HydrAxx747

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I tested it on a 3200G and it also not only booted, but separated the devices into distinct IOMMU groups. So it's safe for (some)other chips!

Inside the CTRL-Q menu in advanced, there's 4x4 bifurcation, "thunderbolt enable" and a raft of other stuff I don't understand.

This maybe the last and best BIOS ASRock have gifted us! Thanks ASRock Engineering! 🙌
Thanks for the info, so compatibility of the ACS function with Picasso APUs also confirmed if I understand correctly... Well, more than checking the Renoir APUs (well almost confirmed given the previous post by "headkaze"), Raven Ridge (Ryzen 2xxxG/GE) and Dali (some batches of Athlon PRO 300GE/320GE and Athlon 3000G, the others being mostly castrated "Raven Ridge"), but the problem is that I don't have any of these models in stock at home😅, I got rid of my only Athlon 3000G ("Dali" Die) which I used to update the BIOS of old AM4 motherboards with A320, B350/450 or X370/470 chipsets which were incompatible with the "new" CPUs/APUs in Zen2/Zen3 architecture when I had to prepare configs from second-hand market hardware, but that period is over... well at least with the cards that still had those old chipsets😅.
 
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milf36

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Hello ,
I use the deskmini x300 and I noticed that with the new UEFi 1.90 with and without S3, securboot no longer works for me. It stays permanently in setup mode and no longer switches to user mode. Does anyone know anything about it or is it just an error with me ?
 

DuDu371

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Oct 19, 2024
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Hello! I have a A300 with a 5700G. The original bios was the 3.60, i have done an upgrade to the 3.60S and then to the 1.9 from the X300. Now the system works flawlessly but i can't save the bios setting otherwise the system will lock up at boot. It's like a soft-lock and the only way to restore the system is to do a clear cmos. It's a common problem? There are any solutions?
Thx
 

obrida

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Oct 16, 2024
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@Dr. Nick 1.90C BIOS Options:

Code:
# Advanced\ACPI Configuration

Suspend to RAM: [Auto,Disabled]
Deep Sleep: [Disabled,Enabled]
RTC Alarm Power On; [By OS,Disabled,Enabled]
...and ones I'm interested in but don't understand:
Code:
# Advanced\AMD PBS
Thunderbolt Support: [Disabled, Enabled]
[...]
PCIe\GFX lanes Configuration: [x8,x4x4]

- Does the thunderbolt mean it can do TB3 PCI tunneling over the USB-C ports?
- Does the lanes selection mean I could bifurcate the M.2 slots to hold 2 each with a PCI riser?
 
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Dr. Nick

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Hello! I have a A300 with a 5700G. The original bios was the 3.60, i have done an upgrade to the 3.60S and then to the 1.9 from the X300. Now the system works flawlessly but i can't save the bios setting otherwise the system will lock up at boot. It's like a soft-lock and the only way to restore the system is to do a clear cmos. It's a common problem? There are any solutions?
Thx
You have to use UMAF to change BIOS settings (be sure to leave the menus 'til it asks to save the settings, and confirm with Y!).

Can you use DRAM frequency above 2666 MHz? IIRC that was a problem with the 8-core APUs on the A300?
 

pellefant

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Oct 19, 2024
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Quite many "final" bios versions in the last 30 days.🙂

Is there any known differences between the 1.82, 1.82SL01, 1.90 and 1.90SL01 (except S3 support)?
Or does ASRock just really dislike S3 for some reason?🤔
 
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DuDu371

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You have to use UMAF to change BIOS settings (be sure to leave the menus 'til it asks to save the settings, and confirm with Y!).

Can you use DRAM frequency above 2666 MHz? IIRC that was a problem with the 8-core APUs on the A300?
Yeah, i already tied the tool but i can't change the integrated graphics card memory size, i have already used UMAF to set 1GB but the system still sees 2GB. My system has only 8GB of RAM and 2GB is a bit to much for the system.
To answer your question yes i can use the XMP Profile of my RAM as the screen below (3200mhz):


Sorry For The Italian Language
 

Dr. Nick

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Yeah, i already tied the tool but i can't change the integrated graphics card memory size, i have already used UMAF to set 1GB but the system still sees 2GB. My system has only 8GB of RAM and 2GB is a bit to much for the system.
To answer your question yes i can use the XMP Profile of my RAM as the screen below (3200mhz):


Sorry For The Italian Language
Yes, Frame Buffer Size is one of the settings that appear twice in different menus in UMAF, for it to work after changing you must go to Device Manager -> AMD CBS -> NBIO Common Options -> GFX Configuration and change iGPU Configuration to UMA_SPECIFIED, and UMA Frame buffer Size to e.g. 512M(B), then leave the menu 'til it asks you to save settings and confirm with Y.
 
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