I wasn’t even using dual 240GTS’s. They were Magicool G2 Slims.
Which are about 15% less performance than a 240GTS. And a 240GTS is about 20% less cooling performance than a 280GTS.
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Yeah.
Up until now ALL the thermal performance of Winter One has been under-estimated and under-reported. I don't think people realize just how well this case cools, because I basically went around gathering every spare % of optimization, and adding it all together, in designing this thing. Seeing Qzrx's reaction, when their build was
utterly silent during a heatwave with ambient temps in 85F / 30C range was really fun. Their previous build would hit emergency max fan speed and coolant temps of 50ºC in those same conditions, and yet there was winter one
With 40% of its thermal capabilities still left on the table shrugging off those conditions like it was a chilly fall morning. And this was while running a
TORTURE TEST on the CPU + GPU...
I really don't think any of you will understand until you actually build in this thing... it's something you have to experience for yourself, before it hits you, just how completely insane the cooling performance of this case is.
I really want you all to understand just how far I pushed the aero and acoustics in this case. I shit you not, there is an external SSD with
252GB of aero data sitting on it,
just for Winter One. (not the SPK, that's literally another external SSD) -- and y
Greetings! I can probably share my experience of my personal rig using 5.2liter aluminum case by LzMod. The panels are aluminum, super sturdy and they have thickness of around 3-4mm each. After around 5 months of use, the back panel bends due to... the weight of both the motherboard and the gpu?
It behooves me why this happens since the components are not that heavy, I havent changed any of the components ever since i built it; and this hapened just a few weeks ago, it was fine before that.
I know this is rather unhelpful information but I can confirm that at 3mm thickness, it can still bend.
Yup. Welcome to levers. From where it is bending, looks like the weight of the GPU is exerting a massive outward force around the bottom ⅔ of that panel. I'm not sure exactly what grade / material the aluminum is made of in your case, but it's definitely bending. O_O
There's a
very good reason Winter One is made
almost entirely out of Aluminum 6061-T6 Cold-finished (more properly Cold-rolled T651 billets, for those of you who know your metallurgy) 6061 is heated, then quenched, then tempered / aged for 8 hours, and *then* cold-rolled. Those last few steps increase its strength, stiffness, and straightness beyond "regular" 6061 or 5052 (the two most common alloys).
Is the bottom panel same as top? In other words, can this case be used horizontally if I mount my own feets? This would look gorgous next to Hifi audio.
The bottom and top panels are the same. -- Feet are attached to the holes via a custom countersunk washer (gives clearance to fans above / below. The feet can also easily be respositioned onto the holes in the
side panels, meaning you can use the original feet to place the case horizontally. For horizontal cooling, it's best to set flow in one direction (even with perforated panels), as the case is designed to create an "air jacket" that prevents recirculation of hot exhaust air in this configuration.
Here's the Air Jacket. See how it seals the space between the intake / exhaust, on the side with the feet? That prevents hot air coming out of the left from looping back around to the intake on the right.
What has made Winter One's airflow *so* tricky to optimize, and so damn difficult, and so incredibly good, was accounting for **ALL** orientations and panel types, and still achieving the airflow necessary in every scenario... Vertical, horizontal, all-exhaust, balanced, etc... It was brutally difficult finding the correct design and range of hole arrangements, sizes, lengths, edge characteristics, and all the other little details, to create something of this caliber.
PS:
you need 2cm of space between any panel that's exhausting or intaking air, and a nearby wall, so please don't shove it in a tiny cabinet with no space on each side -- the feet are 2cm tall for a very good reason.
Did something change? Because my understanding was..
a) It will also have 280GTS + 27mm fan support (e.g. P14 PST)
b) Using a D5 without a reservoir is possible with Dual 280.
A) No nothing has changed. The beta testers will tell you this: I like to leave 1mm of "extra" tolerance on every claimed part fit. So while Winter One
officially supports 55mm radiators/fans, the "true" number is 57mm. You will have a *very* tight fit, but it will fit, assuming your chosen fans are toleranced on the outside edge (27mm -0.4mm), and not 27±0.2mm ?.
The reason everything fit perfectly in the Beta units is that this type of padding is necessary if you want to not run into a barely-in-tolerance part being unable to fit. Minor variations matter, hence the official numbers in the sizing chart.
B) It is,
provided your GPU is short enough to give you the clearance to do so. The Cad model shot I posted a while back, showing a pump/res was with a shorter GPU. With 315mm GPU length, there is room in Winter one to use something like a 240mm card, giving you 75mm of clearance, for a D5 pump such as the Swiftech MCP655 with a pump top, while using dual 280mm radiators. This is entirely possible, as reference Design PCBs for the 3080 / 3090
are just 220mm in length, even though the *coolers* are much larger, water blocks like the
EK block for these designs also top out at 220mm length Which leaves room for a D5 with a res.
Anyone have a source for 280 GTS rads in the US? It seems this thread emptied the entire North American stock of them ?
Hehehe oops. ?