Which Keyboard Layout?

[Phuncz]

I agree, although I'm a sucker for ISO layout:

Except I want to switch almost every non-alphabetic key's normal symbol with the "elevated" symbol. It's stupid that a French-oriented keyboard has to use SHIFT for a question mark and dot, but not for an exclamation mark or the $ sign.

 

[robbee]

It's stupid that a French-oriented keyboard has to use SHIFT for a question mark and dot, but not for an exclamation mark or the $ sign.

We share the AZERTY burden!

But it can be worse: azerty APPLE layout! Whoever thought of alt + shift + ) for a bracket??!! Or alt + shift + L for a pipe! Developers nightmare

 

[iFreilicht]

I see all these heathens posting their deviant ANSI bigger-at-the-bottom enter keys. Behold the One True Carriage-Return!

To be fair, the 1800 layout is probably the best looking 100% layout anyway, so that's not a fair comparison.

 

[GuilleAcoustic]

I agree, although I'm a sucker for ISO layout:

Except I want to switch almost every non-alphabetic key's normal symbol with the "elevated" symbol. It's stupid that a French-oriented keyboard has to use SHIFT for a question mark and dot, but not for an exclamation mark or the $ sign.

We share the AZERTY burden!

But it can be worse: azerty APPLE layout! Whoever thought of alt + shift + ) for a bracket??!! Or alt + shift + L for a pipe! Developers nightmare

Hence why I moved to US Intl. Not only it makes more sense as a developer, but it also allow you to input French characters that can't be inputed with a French keyboard: Ç, É, Ù, etc...

 

[robbee]

Hence why I moved to US Intl. Not only it makes more sense as a developer, but it also allow you to input French characters that can't be inputed with a French keyboard: Ç, É, Ù, etc...

If only my wife would agree

 

[GuilleAcoustic]

If only my wife would agree

Wifey is a former journalist. I only told her she would finally be able to properly type French

 

[PNP]

I see all these heathens posting their deviant ANSI bigger-at-the-bottom enter keys. Behold the One True Carriage-Return!

I like the 1800 layout, but this is still TECHNO-HERESY. From whence did you acquire the warp corrupted STGs required to construct this monstrosity, you fiend?!!

Hence why I moved to US Intl. Not only it makes more sense as a developer, but it also allow you to input French characters that can't be inputed with a French keyboard: Ç, É, Ù, etc...

Wait. There are French characters that can't be produced with a French keyboard?

 

[iFreilicht]

Hence why I moved to US Intl.

Yes, US International is absolutely superb. It's also a very good base layout if you have a programmable keyboard and want to modify the layout completely. I think there's almost no letter/sign you can type with a keyboard that couldn't be typed on US International. Even more-so on linux, as that adds additional dead keys.

Very good resource on the powers of US-Intl: http://dry.sailingissues.com/us-international-keyboard-layout.html

 

[GuilleAcoustic]

Wait. There are French characters that can't be produced with a French keyboard?

Yes, basically most upper case accented characters, as well as upper case cedillas.

French keyboard uses dedicated keys for é, è, à, ù, ç, which can't be upper cased. Other accents are composed with dead keys and can be upper cased: ï, î, ö, ô, Ï, Î, Ö, Ô, etc.

Accented upper case letters being an issue with old school Gutenberg print (E, and É having the same overall height ... Thus accented one has a less tall E), accented letters where not used ... And thus non-accented capital letter are tolerated since you can't input them. But that is still not correct. Everything is explained here: http://www.orthotypographie.fr/volume-I/academie-accentuation.html#Accentuation