up board + gpu / raspberry like board with mini pcix1

[owliwar]

so this just poped up on my youtube feed


What you think?
I'm note sure how powerfull the cpu is but I find it ratter interesting. I didn't knew such board existed

how much do x1 PCI should limit the gpu? like, what is the higest card we could get to use a x1 pci without too much of bottleneck? a 1030? older cards?

the up2 cost from $145 of 2gb ram and very low celerun to $300 of 8gb ram and quad core pentium.

Its rather expensive but very interesting.

 

[GuilleAcoustic]

Passmark (single thread), an atom x5-Z8350 from the up board gets 311pts while an i3-6100 gets 2106.

With multi-threading, this is 1146 Vs 5478.

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-x5-Z8350-vs-Intel-Core-i3-6100

 

[owliwar]

even comparing it to a pentium g4560 it really sucks :/
intel hd graphics alone should be better than making anything with these boards...


edit:
I mean for gaming or as a portable personal computer. it sure have use in more low power scenario

 

[jØrd]

To be fair chances are GPU's were amongst the last things they expected people to try and hang off the mini PCIe slot. Also, this is an SBC so its more in line w/ the "just enough compute" philosophy than it is the "all the horsepower" approach we tend to take w/ general use desktops (or the "as much horsepower as possible in $n liters" that tends to be the SFF approach).

Also, this isnt a new idea the guys over at 86Duino have been doing it for years, albeit at a much lower clock speed.

 

[zovc]

For whatever it's worth, I hooked a 1070 up to an Atom board with a PCIe 2.0 (x8) slot. I'm pretty sure 2.0 with 8 lanes is plenty (I could be wrong), but the speed of the CPU made playing even something like League of Legends unbearably slow. Even just watching YouTube videos bogged the system down.

I wouldn't expect a good gaming experience from this kind of set up.

 

[lhl]

I love SBCs and have played around w/ dozens of them over the years (ARM and x86) for work. The Upboards aren't terrible, although for my money, the UDOO X86 is the best/most interesting of the x86 SBCs - they have quadcore Braswell SOCs, so a big jump up from the Atom Cherry Trails (the UP Squared I think has a dualcore Apollo Lake) - these are all 6W TDP chips so performance will never be great.

If you're playing around w/ higher power boards, you'll probably want to jump up to NUC/BRIX's - about the same size, but very different price point/power envelopes, usually using U or even HQ Core chips, those might be worth plugging GPUs into (although at the cost of size).

Here's a hilarious set of pics of what a NUC looks like hooked up to a full-sized GPU: https://imgur.com/r/nuc/JHoIy
(m.2 to PCIe x4 adapters are about $15, but even if you use a mini-ITX sized GPU, once you add power, you're just at a silly amount of volume)

IMO, if you're looking for the most compact CPU/GPU performance, you'll want either an AsRock Micro-STX+MXM board or wait for the Hades Canyon NUC (Brix Pro, MSI Vortex 25, Shuttle X1, Zotac Magnus are options too but start climbing up there in price and size).

 

[ChainedHope]

Here's a hilarious set of pics of what a NUC looks like hooked up to a full-sized GPU: https://imgur.com/r/nuc/JHoIy
(m.2 to PCIe x4 adapters are about $15, but even if you use a mini-ITX sized GPU, once you add power, you're just at a silly amount of volume)

IMO, if you're looking for the most compact CPU/GPU performance, you'll want either an AsRock Micro-STX+MXM board or wait for the Hades Canyon NUC (Brix Pro, MSI Vortex 25, Shuttle X1, Zotac Magnus are options too but start climbing up there in price and size).

I designed a case around a Skull Canyon nuc and a r9 nano and while it was small, it was really wonky lol. Came in at an obscene volume tho

* edit: Found it. Was a 2.2L case without the IPad screen and ~3.9L with the screen. Was playing with an AIO design.
https://smallformfactor.net/forum/t...pt-this-idea-3-9l-aio-2-2l-layout-design.971/