News Thermalright AXP90

It looks like Thermalright is working on a new heatsink in the sub 50mm height class:

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[Analogue Blacksheep]

The brackets/buckles from Xianyu have arrived. They fit quite well, but I would recommend using a Noctua backplate. The metal backplate holes are too small/wrongly placed.



Oh, and some more Noctua pics...

 

[nice_big_cup_of_stfu]

I'm using a cheapo $10 pc cooler fan from Amazon that has been pretty good. I highly recommend a scythe 100x12mm fan. The recently discontinued their 2000 RPM version, but I was able to find a few Shuriken Rev b. coolers on FrozenCPU that use a PWM(!) version of the fan for $29 apiece and ordered two of them. I figured I've already spent a small fortune on noctuas, so a whole cooler for the same price as a single fan wasn't that big a deal. I'm using one on the AXP 100 I smooshed into my Dan A4 and will put the other on the K39 once it shows up. the 1000 rpm version of the Kaze Jyu slim (same dimensions) will run you $12 or so and is available on a number of retailers.

You could also try the Thermalright TY-100. It's way more performant, but sounds like a hovercraft. I like my pcs to be as quiet as possible, so I haven't used it.

The 100m is cool because it has the same mounting holes as the 92mm, doesn't require VLP RAM (I'm using Corsair LPX), and have so far yielded better cooling performance on the black ridge and an l9a (better coverage for the slightly larger heatsink) and should do so on anything with a larger than 92mm surface area ( c7g and AXP 90 have this kind of heatsinks for reference).

EDIT: I tested out the Ty-100 and it's been amazing. Same temps as the pc cooler fan, but with silent mode enabled in the bios its been way quieter

How are temps and noise with the TY-100 and Shuriken fans on the Black RIdge?

My worry with the A9x14's on the Black RIdge was the "whining" noise in the Dan A4

 

[Diamorif]

the ty-100 is a great option for the black ridge. temps have been in the high 60s with the occasional jump to 75 of a moment when something is loading while running very quietly except when it jumps. It'll ramp up for a moment then drop off again. the shuriken fans are also great, using one on an AXP 100 currently. Super quiet and really good performance.

 

[nice_big_cup_of_stfu]

That is great to hear. Where did you find the TY-100s?

 

[Diamorif]

I got mine with the AXP 100. I think you can find them on Aliexpress or Taobao as standalones. J-hack also had some for a while, but I think he's out. I have an extra orange one (not visible through the cooler) too.

 

[nice_big_cup_of_stfu]

I got mine with the AXP 100. I think you can find them on Aliexpress or Taobao as standalones. J-hack also had some for a while, but I think he's out. I have an extra orange one (not visible through the cooler) too.

Great to hear. Did you ever use the Black Ridge with 100mm fan in the A4 and compare it with the A9x14? Curious to see what temps I'll get if I snag a 100mm.

 

[Diamorif]

was used in a k39, so somewhat similar. the a9x14 was hitting temps around the low 70s

 

[CupcakePeroxide]

The brackets/buckles from Xianyu have arrived. They fit quite well, but I would recommend using a Noctua backplate. The metal backplate holes are too small/wrongly placed.



Oh, and some more Noctua pics...

Could you share your results (temps)? What I found online is pretty inconclusive. Some people saw 7 c reduction in CPU temps using the 90 degrees brackets; some claim only 1 c reduction and way higher VRM and RAM temperature. I'm considering getting an AXP 90 for a future build. I'm not sure if I should get the 90 degrees brackets or not.

 

[CupcakePeroxide]

Does anyone know if these 90° am4 brackets from thermalright are available to be purchased separately?

I know someone on tabao sells their own custom version, but I rather have the official thermalright set.

You can purchase the brackets and back-plate as a kit on Taobao for 39 CNY.
https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=628965397182 (official Thermalright store)

 

[Bullz]

any updates. What is the best cooler config für the Dan now ?

 

[daddelbud]

Do anyone have a positive experience with this in a Dan a4?
I get decent thermals, but its very noisy as the fan is almost hitting the side. Any recommendations? (for now the side is off)

 

[quetzacoatlx]

Why the AXP-90 Cooper performs only 1 degree better than the aluminium one? In Reddit there are people saying about 4-7 degrees better the cooper against the aluminium.

Aluminum has a much larger specific heat capacity than copper, it may compensate some of the disadvantage, that's why mainstream brands rarely make copper heatsinks.

 

[Thehack]

Aluminum has a much larger specific heat capacity than copper, it may compensate some of the disadvantage, that's why mainstream brands rarely make copper heatsinks.

Specific heat capacity only matters until it reaches steady state, which for both isn’t long at all.

And the heat capacity for the cooler may not differ that much. A copper cooler weighs more than an aluminum cooler. The C7 Cu is 600g vs 300g for the aluminum, at least according to a quick google. So difference not that big. Aluminum is about 3x the specific heat capacity but the copper cooler has twice the mass.

Brands don’t make copper cooler cause it’s more expensive for a small performance increase, and at the cost of additional tooling and engineering. Aluminum is just a very effective material for this use.

 

[MarcParis]

Specific heat capacity only matters until it reaches steady state, which for both isn’t long at all.

And the heat capacity for the cooler may not differ that much. A copper cooler weighs more than an aluminum cooler. The C7 Cu is 600g vs 300g for the aluminum, at least according to a quick google. So difference not that big. Aluminum is about 3x the specific heat capacity but the copper cooler has twice the mass.

Brands don’t make copper cooler cause it’s more expensive for a small performance increase, and at the cost of additional tooling and engineering. Aluminum is just a very effective material for this use.

Fully agree..
However cu heatsink are gorgeous...but nothing related to performance..

 

[Misjn]

Do anyone have a positive experience with this in a Dan a4?
I get decent thermals, but its very noisy as the fan is almost hitting the side. Any recommendations? (for now the side is off)

I've had this in my Dan A4 for almost a year now, permanently kept my side panel on the CPU side secured only by the top 2 catches. I would not buy this cooler for the Dan A4 again and instead just go with the NH-L9i/a. I almost replaced my cooler at one point but leaving a bit of a gap to the bottom of the side panel basically removes the extra noise so didn't bother with it.

 

[daddelbud]

I've had this in my Dan A4 for almost a year now, permanently kept my side panel on the CPU side secured only by the top 2 catches. I would not buy this cooler for the Dan A4 again and instead just go with the NH-L9i/a. I almost replaced my cooler at one point but leaving a bit of a gap to the bottom of the side panel basically removes the extra noise so didn't bother with it.

Thanks, I also went back to my L9a

 

[akisu]

I tested the AXP90 (with Noctua fan) in my S4 Mini. With open case I had 2-3 degree (under full load) less compared with the Noctua L9a. But after closing (and its closing badly because the AXP90 is to high) it was only 1 degree difference. So the benefit was to low and I also switched back.

 

[Gilles3000]

From what I've read the TL-9015R is really close in performance to the NF-A9x14, most claim the TR performs slightly better while being slightly louder. But it all seems to be within margin of error and rpm variations.

So no point swapping the fan unless you prefer the sound signature of the noctua or really need that (barely)1mm space saving.

 

[akisu]

The performance may be the same but not with the rpm/noise. In my test (open case) with 1700 rpm fixed the Noctura won with 4-5 degree difference.

You can see that also if you compare the stats
TL-9015R:
Rated Speed: 2700 RPM±10% (MAX)
Noise Level: 22.4 dBA (MAX)
Air Flow: 42.58 CFM (MAX)
Air Pressure: 1.33 mm H2O (MAX)
Ampere: 0.18 A

NF-A9x14:
Rotational speed (+/- 10%): 2200 RPM
Acoustical noise: 19,9 dB(A)
Airflow: 50,5 m³/h (MAX)
Static pressure: 1,64 mm H₂O
Ampere: 0,11 A

 

[ikara]

The brackets/buckles from Xianyu have arrived. They fit quite well, but I would recommend using a Noctua backplate. The metal backplate holes are too small/wrongly placed.



Oh, and some more Noctua pics...

Would you mind sharing a photo of the cooler when it is on the mobo?
How did the rotation work? Does it affect the temperatures?