Concept Sliger "G": A4-like layout with water cooling and optional bifurcation

MarcParis

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I like the EK solution better than the Swiftech because it takes the pump off of the CPU...



I would probably 'rebuild' the system in regards to shortening the hoses & possibly removing the QDCs, and definitely re-plumbing for the Bitspower monoblock if I were to go for a X299 build...
Thus ek mlc will become ek predator 2...;)
 

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That's what I was thinking would be most reasonable, I need to find a volunteer to build a custom loop on bifurcated with ITX GPUs when first article is done.

@KSliger

If you contact EKWB, let them know who you are & the company you represent, I am sure you could get them to make a custom version of this water block fittings terminal...





I do believe this very same terminal was originally a custom piece for a SLI dual single-slot GPUs (ITX even, if I remember correctly, GTX 970s...?)

For use in the Sliger G, without having to increase the GPU chamber width (and adding a good bit of empty volume) I would see plugs on the four existing ports & two of the swiveling 90 degree fittings mounted thru the top, set for parallel flow...

Keep in mind you would have to attach the tubing & QDCs and fill the blocks / terminal assembly after the blocks were mounted to the cards...

But you would have bifurcated GPUs in the Sliger G, with the semi-custom AIO-esque water cooling solution from EKWB (unless you go for a X299 build & use the highly recommended Bitspower monoblock)...

8c/16t HEDT CPU power, 64GB DDR4 RAM, a 2TB NVMe RAID 5 array, and bifurcated SLI'edTitan Xp GPUs in a 15 to 18 liter (?) ITX specific chassis, all under water...!?! ;^p

Picture it; the Sliger G chassis, stuffed with the following:

ASRock X299E-ITX/ac motherboard
Intel i7-7820X (8c/16t) CPU (get one from Silicon Lottery for that delidded goodness)
64GB G.Skill DDR4 RAM (4 @ 16GB SO-DIMMs / 3200MHz / CAS 14)
Three 1TB Intel 600p M.2 NVMe SSDs (in RAID 5 with the add-in VROC dongle from Intel)
Dual Nvidia Titan Xp GPUs in SLI
Silverstone 800 watt SFX-L PSU (80+ Platinum rated)

For cooling, the following:

Bitspower monoblock for the ASRock X299E-ITX/ac
Dual EK-MLC FC1080 GTX Ti single-slot water blocks (they work with both the reference model 1080 Ti & Titan Xp cards)
The aforementioned semi-custom terminal
Two EK-MLC Phoenix 240 radiator core modules
Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut TIM for the CPU & GPU water blocks

Reuse the tubing that comes with the various water blocks & radiators & slap some 90 degree fittings on the radiators to cut down that tubing bend clearance issue...

You could plumb it all (CPU & GPUs) together in a single loop; or you could use the cabling available for EKWB to attach the pump & fans of one 240 radiator unit to the GPUs & attach the other radiator unit as normal to the CPU header on the motherboard for two separate loops, each controlled by the components it is cooling (I would do the latter)...

Add custom cables (don't forget the SATA power to the radiator units) & take lots of water cooling porn, er, I mean marketing photos...!
 
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To add to all that mess above...

I personally would be looking to build up a Sliger G with the following:

ASRock Z370M-ITX/ac motherboard
Intel i7-8700K (6c/12t) CPU (from Silicon Lottery for that delidded goodness)
16GB G.Skill DDR4 RAM (2 @ 8GB DIMMs / 3200MHz / CAS 14)
500GB Samsung 960 EVO M.2 NVMe SSD
EVGA GTX 1070 Ti Gaming GPU (unless I can find out if one of the EK-MLC GPU modules works with the EVGA GTX 1070 Ti FTW2 card)
Corsair SF600 600 watt SFX (80+ Gold rated) PSU

For the cooling:

EK-MLC Phoenix CPU module (Intel/AM4 model)
EK-MLC GPU module FC Geforce GTX FE water block (see note regarding GPU selection above)
Two EK-MLC Phoenix 240 radiator core modules
Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut TIM for the CPU & GPU water blocks

Reuse the tubing that comes with the various water blocks & radiators & slap some 90 degree fittings on the radiators to cut down that tubing bend clearance issue...

Maybe add custom cabling...

CPU plumbed to & controlling the pump & fans on one radiator unit & the GPU plumbed to & controlling the pump & fans on the second radiator unit; no cross over between the two loops, both are separate / individual loops...

Perfect SFF fully water cooled gaming / streaming rig...

Sweet...!
 
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Keep in mind that bifurcated GPUs do not work in SLI.
To my knowledge, the only one that pulled it out is @LukeD who modified the nVidia Geforce Drivers.

https://hardforum.com/threads/pcie-bifurcation.1870298/page-13

BTW, this thread is the absolute reference when it comes to bifurcation.

Looks like he got it to work by injecting an SLI certificate into the Driver, should be something that can be done if he can share methods.

Update on how 2x AIO can mount (ideal: 2x EK-MLC 240mm) and the room for fans and other cables, and front 2.5" SSD cavity.

 

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Looks like he got it to work by injecting an SLI certificate into the Driver, should be something that can be done if he can share methods.

Update on how 2x AIO can mount (ideal: 2x EK-MLC 240mm) and the room for fans and other cables, and front 2.5" SSD cavity.


60mm + some minor gap...?

The EK MLC units are 68mm, NOT including the fittings / tubing bend...



If you are going for intakes on both radiators, will there be an provision for fitting dust filters...?

Not a lot of room for venting on the backside, venting on the front might come at the expense of the 2.5" drive locations...?

If given a choice (assuming two EK MLC units could fit above & below) I would think a pair of 120mm (25mm thick would be awesome) fans set to exhaust up front would be very helpful...?
 

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I do not want to "hijack" your thread but I've been working on a very similar layout for quite some time (except the GPU, which will be stacked above the mobo and the pump choice) and I'm currently at the prototype stage to fine-tune the case design.

I'm still debating whether waiting for your case or submitting my own design for quotation.

Is it possible to share a simplified STP file of your case to see if I can accomodate my hardware ?





 
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That's one impressive build but because of the GPU water block it's not going to fit this case, will fit in the wider version though.
 

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Thanks !

I used a Thermosphere block on the second GPU as I'm still waiting for my custom blocks.
I received them 10 days ago but I had to send them back as they weren't single slot !...
Hoping to get the final ones by the end of the year.

The company that makes the custom water blocks for my 1070 mini cannot make a bridge to connect them either.
That's not really an issue as I'm using 6/10e hoses, that are small enough to fit.

With standard bridge solutions from EK, it shouldn't be an issue. The problem is to find single slot GPUs that aren't 1080 Ti...
If you're in contact with Ameri-Rack, you could ask them to develop a riser that fits dual-slot GPUs, to make your case truly universal ?
 
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Looks like he got it to work by injecting an SLI certificate into the Driver, should be something that can be done if he can share methods.

Update on how 2x AIO can mount (ideal: 2x EK-MLC 240mm) and the room for fans and other cables, and front 2.5" SSD cavity.

This thread can be very helpful if you want to SLI in non-SLI mobo, even with different nVidia cards, all tools needed are always updated.
 

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Apologies on hold up on this project, had a company buy this design out so I need to change the commercial offering to not overlap with their project, will have an update this week.
 

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But what about the dual EK 240 Phoenix build that was talked about previously...?!?

Didn't work out, EK Phoenixs are HUGE and the tube is pretty stiff. Wound up bigger than Cerberus by volume, and required both radiators blowing inward and exhausting out rear which made the PSU run really hot.

Need to change it to exhaust PSU out behind the front panel, and limit it to smaller radiators, which is going to be a different case but it's down the priority list after the single radiator version and a console-layout case.

Single top radiator version is what I'll be doing some fixes on and updating this thread to be about. Needs some small tweaks and then I'll do a bunch of community input.

Good news is it's right at my price target of $180 + S&H, going to try and get it under $150.