Sleeving & Crimping Thread

jeshikat

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If it is present, then I would go ahead and remove it. I would think it's already omitted though.
 

EdZ

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ATX12V specs list it as NC (Not Connected), and do not list a -5V supply rail at all. Leaving it disconnected would be spec compliant.

(note, this is the layout of the plug, so flipped vertically from the socket)
 
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BirdofPrey

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-5VDC was in initial versions of the specification. Same spot, but a 20 pin connector.
As I mentioned, it supplied ISA slots, which at the time, usually took up a few slots, (a typical board setup at the time would be an AGP, 4 PCI and 3 ISA). It was later deleted because it wasn't needed any more.

If it's actually a populated pin on the PSU, then they are using an out of date specification, but it shouldn't harm anything if removed since it's not connected to anything anymore anyways.
 

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If it's actually a populated pin on the PSU, then they are using an out of date specification, but it shouldn't harm anything if removed since it's not connected to anything anymore anyways.

I think the reason the HDPLEX has +12V in that location is to get one more wire to connect, so your overall wire cross-section gets bigger. With HDPLEXs H5 case, this is a sensible consideration, as the TDP of GPUs it can cool most often lead to using a bus-powered GPU. Having a bit of headroom on the cabling isn't bad at all. I'm pretty sure that cable is not connected to the NC pin 20 on the mainboard-side connector, but to either pin 10 or pin 11. @hdplex, is that correct?
 

onlyabloke

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As far as tools go, anyone have any they recommend? I'm not talking brands, I'm talking specific tools.

I know I need a crimping and a wirestripper at the very least. Right?

This is a project I'm going to be taking on as well come build time.
 

BirdofPrey

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Don't forget the molex pin extractor. I know some people love their safety pin kludges, but having the actual proper tool is useful.
You should also get a heat gun for the heatshrink; again, a lighter will do in a pinch, but it's worth it to do it right.
 

onlyabloke

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Don't forget the molex pin extractor. I know some people love their safety pin kludges, but having the actual proper tool is useful.
You should also get a heat gun for the heatshrink; again, a lighter will do in a pinch, but it's worth it to do it right.

Luckily I have a heatgun already (needed it to debadge my old car).

So a crimping tool, wire-stripper, and molex pin extractor.
 

Amr0d

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How do you guys put to cables into one with sleeve? I tried my best but the cable doesn't click into the connector because it is to thick with the sleeve.
 

Phuncz

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It can be done by cutting the sleeves of both wires at an angle and joining them like a Y. I can't find a picture though.
 

Kmpkt

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Heatshrink the junction and keep the mess wrapped underneath?
 

Phuncz

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This is really hard to achieve when you want to sleeve them as well :(
You can do the same with the sleeving: cut them at an angle and join them in the same wire-Y, use heatshrink.
 

jeshikat

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Hopefully someone here can verify if indeed HDPlex removed that -5V pin.

I can now verify that at least on the HDPLEX 160W DC-ATX the 24-pin cable is missing that pin. I assume the 250W is the same so there shouldn't be any issues.