dunno why. But it’s noticeable . I don’t won’t to take apart my system and run tests at the moment . I used loupe 4.0 riser and cut off the Pcb ends
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dunno why. But it’s noticeable . I don’t won’t to take apart my system and run tests at the moment . I used loupe 4.0 riser and cut off the Pcb ends
My Asus 3090 turbo fits.Hey guys I was wondering if someone got any idea about the rtx 3070 turbo from asus (blower ) in the sentry, do you know if it will fit in the case ? I also saw the 3060 12gb from evga which will be released in a few days and I can't really decide now which gpu to take .
My Asus 3090 turbo fits.
Zen 2 has higher temperatures than previously. It will have temperatures like 50 degrees in light desktop workloads and 75~85 degrees while gaming with uncapped framerate if your GPU can handle it/won't be a bottleneck. Zen 2 turbo works the same as we've seen for some time now with GPUs where it will boost while it has headroom if there is a load. And the thermal limit is 95c and the socket power limit is 88W for "65W TDP" Zen2 CPUs.What's the best performing CPU cooler for Sentry? I currently use a Noctua NH-L9a. Temps get a bit high on my Ryzen 3 3300x.
Thank you very much for a detailed answer. As a matter of fact, I actually get roughly the same figures you describe during heavy load, so I'm probably worrying for no reason. Would be good to reduce temps further, but there's no magic trick inside such a small case, so I do need to get used to them. At least It never gets too loud.Zen 2 has higher temperatures than previously. It will have temperatures like 50 degrees in light desktop workloads and 75~85 degrees while gaming with uncapped framerate if your GPU can handle it/won't be a bottleneck. Zen 2 turbo works the same as we've seen for some time now with GPUs where it will boost while it has headroom if there is a load. And the thermal limit is 95c and the socket power limit is 88W for "65W TDP" Zen2 CPUs.
NH-L9a is actually an optimal cooler for Sentry 2.0 as it's not facing perforation closely. Black Ridge is just an inverted NH-L9a until you have low profile ram which allows you to slide in a 120 mm slim fan.
If you have too high temperatures on idle on 3300X, then I'd check whether you have ryzen power profile, bios updates, some monitoring software that wakes up the CPU constantly and maybe if your CPU is seated correctly which may happen with this kind of socket.
There is this go-through for checking what's the actual idle temperature to see if you have actual thermal problems where you shut down everything to have just bare windows without any apps on top, you'd have to find that. I went through that and I had a drop from 52 degrees to 36 in idle on my 3700X simply because there's always something waking up the cores in windows. Alternatively you can check out the temps when you disable turbo in bios by switching off "core performance boost" but that's just so you can see that it's not the cooler but how those new CPUs behave.
Anyway we need to get used to those temps. The problem is when this becomes the issue because it gets loud and the fan curves tweaked for previous generations CPUs temps (or with huge coolers) is the real problem here.
Thank you very much for a detailed answer. As a matter of fact, I actually get roughly the same figures you describe during heavy load, so I'm probably worrying for no reason. Would be good to reduce temps further, but there's no magic trick inside such a small case, so I do need to get used to them. At least It never gets too loud.
This has been debunked here by some forum members.I know its not a Noctua L12S, but its same design.
Noctua dont recommend that orientation:
good to know, I havent seen that before. The alpenföhn cooler is intended for that orientation. as you can see in my pic the find are almost exactly the size of the itx board. in other orientations the io side doesnt fit.I know its not a Noctua L12S, but its same design.
Noctua dont recommend that orientation:
Just out of interest, now that we've been running our systems for a while, have you settled on having the 120mm fan as exhaust/push? I have swapped the orientation a few times now (whenever I had a reason to take my PC apart) and I definitely get better CPU cooling performance with it in intake/pull, with the trade-off being slightly higher RAM and, to a lesser extent, chipset temperatures. That didn't seem worth it to me, but perhaps you have another reason or a different experience?if you want the best cooling performance in the sentry you need the alpenföhn black ridge. It only fits on gigabyte boards though, because of the socket placement. with normal low profile ram you can use a 92mm fan, if you get special vlp form factor memory you can even use a 120mm fan. afaik this is the only way to get a 120mm air cooler in the sentry. I added some photos of my setup, you need to remove the chipset cooler as well if you want the 120mm fan, but you will get air cooling from the 120mm fan on it still, so it doesnt matter.
I use it as an intake, blowing onto the ram and chipset/m.2 ssd.Just out of interest, now that we've been running our systems for a while, have you settled on having the 120mm fan as exhaust/push? I have swapped the orientation a few times now (whenever I had a reason to take my PC apart) and I definitely get better CPU cooling performance with it in intake/pull, with the trade-off being slightly higher RAM and, to a lesser extent, chipset temperatures. That didn't seem worth it to me, but perhaps you have another reason or a different experience?
Edit: I just noticed that you have the fan on in different orientations in the two pictures, haha. Which do you use?
So, I know (I read the whole thread) this has been discussed times and times again, and I know that, performance wise, it makes basically no difference at all but, as a quality of life point of view, where are we on PCIe 4.0 risers? Anything 4.0 compliant? Maybe even ready to use, without needing to cut, drill or anything else here and there? Given the majority of us are going Ryzen 5000, and the non-stop releasing of new BIOSes, it would be a royal pain in the arse to have to unmount the GPU and insert it directly in the PCIe slot every time we upgrade to a new BIOS just to set the PCIe slot speed to 3.0.